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Vaccine FAILURE, on every level.

This moron.
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Interesting turn of events that at the same time the "updated Covid shots" hit the market, rumors swirled about Kelsey and Taylor Swift then the very day those rumors appear to be substantiated, Kelsey appears in Pfizer commercials. It's like the saying goes, all the world's a stage.
 
Wes in TN said:
Interesting turn of events that at the same time the "updated Covid shots" hit the market, rumors swirled about Kelsey and Taylor Swift then the very day those rumors appear to be substantiated, Kelsey appears in Pfizer commercials. It's like the saying goes, all the world's a stage.
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Yep, clearly it was all orchestrated and I did not expect Kelce to sell out like that.

Oh well, yet another reason to not watch it anymore
 
An 80 year old friend was telling me that his doctor recommended that he got the flu vaccine. My friend asked about the new covid vaccine and Dr. Says "do your research and make your own decision ".
 
Mikel said:
An 80 year old friend was telling me that his doctor recommended that he got the flu vaccine. My friend asked about the new covid vaccine and Dr. Says "do your research and make your own decision ".
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That's great, and sad at the same time.

It's sad that a doctor won't/can't say "that med is garbage, I won't administer it, if you do get it from someone else please let me know so we can log it for future data in your records."
 
45acp said:
That's great, and sad at the same time.

It's sad that a doctor won't/can't say "that med is garbage, I won't administer it, if you do get it from someone else please let me know so we can log it for future data in your records."
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To me it translates into "I don't want the liability".
 
45acp said:
That's great, and sad at the same time.

It's sad that a doctor won't/can't say "that med is garbage, I won't administer it, if you do get it from someone else please let me know so we can log it for future data in your records."
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I mean, they've came after doctor's licenses for being against the COVID vaccine. I honestly don't blame them for punting on the issue. A lot of them work under corporate umbrellas where they're really just a degree and license for hire. They're not really allowed to have their own ideas. They're told by bureaucrats looking at spreadsheets how they're supposed to handle patient treatment.
 
east_beast said:
I mean, they've came after doctor's licenses for being against the COVID vaccine. I honestly don't blame them for punting on the issue. A lot of them work under corporate umbrellas where they're really just a degree and license for hire. They're not really allowed to have their own ideas. They're told by bureaucrats looking at spreadsheets how they're supposed to handle patient treatment.
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Oh I agree and understand completely.

"Keep your mouth shut, or lose everything in your life". It's not as easy a decision as we make it out to be on the internet.
 
east_beast said:
I mean, they've came after doctor's licenses for being against the COVID vaccine. I honestly don't blame them for punting on the issue. A lot of them work under corporate umbrellas where they're really just a degree and license for hire. They're not really allowed to have their own ideas. They're told by bureaucrats looking at spreadsheets how they're supposed to handle patient treatment.
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I lost my long time Dr to this. He closed his practice and went under a multi Dr practice under united health. He hated it. Said that they were on his case that he took too long with each patient. He was not quick enough with paperwork... He was hoping to stick it out another few years but he could not take it. Retired last year.
 
45acp said:
Oh I agree and understand completely.

"Keep your mouth shut, or lose everything in your life". It's not as easy a decision as we make it out to be on the internet.
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Hey at least they haven't been coercing people over this COVID shit!!
 
nahmus said:
I lost my long time Dr to this. He closed his practice and went under a multi Dr practice under united health. He hated it. Said that they were on his case that he took too long with each patient. He was not quick enough with paperwork... He was hoping to stick it out another few years but he could not take it. Retired last year.
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It forced my father in-law into retirement. He's a pediatrician who had worked for the same privately owned practice for decades. They sold to some corporate conglomerate and everything became a numbers game. It was just about seeing as many patients as possible everyday. Fill out those charts and get those bills out. Not a single fuck given about patient care. He was like fuck this, I'm out.
 
east_beast said:
It forced my father in-law into retirement. He's a pediatrician who had worked for the same privately owned practice for decades. They sold to some corporate conglomerate and everything became a numbers game. It was just about seeing as many patients as possible everyday. Fill out those charts and get those bills out. Not a single fuck given about patient care. He was like fuck this, I'm out.
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Not to mention all of the big med-corps are really just big pharma-corps. No real practicing medicine in the vast majority of places, just prescribe the latest greatest wonder drug for what "might" be wrong with you along with all of the other meds to counteract the side effects of the first and we'll see you in 2 weeks (if you can actually find an appointment 2 weeks out).
 
MChat said:
Not to mention all of the big med-corps are really just big pharma-corps. No real practicing medicine in the vast majority of places, just prescribe the latest greatest wonder drug for what "might" be wrong with you along with all of the other meds to counteract the side effects of the first and we'll see you in 2 weeks (if you can actually find an appointment 2 weeks out).
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Yeah, they were basically wanting every kid diagnosed with ADHD and handed an Adderall script. My FIL isn't anti-Adderall and thinks it absolutely has it's place but that it is WAY over-prescribed.
 
MChat said:
Not to mention all of the big med-corps are really just big pharma-corps. No real practicing medicine in the vast majority of places, just prescribe the latest greatest wonder drug for what "might" be wrong with you along with all of the other meds to counteract the side effects of the first and we'll see you in 2 weeks (if you can actually find an appointment 2 weeks out).
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Seen the painkiller docudrama On Netflix? Covers it pretty well.
 
Being the devils advocate, it makes sense that the older the people, the more likely they were to be vaccinated against covid.

 
east_beast said:
It forced my father in-law into retirement. He's a pediatrician who had worked for the same privately owned practice for decades. They sold to some corporate conglomerate and everything became a numbers game. It was just about seeing as many patients as possible everyday. Fill out those charts and get those bills out. Not a single fuck given about patient care. He was like fuck this, I'm out.
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My primary is going through this now, he's not uber old late 50's if I recall but has a completely different style of care, very 1on1 and involved = bad for business. I scheduled a annual checkup last week and to discuss my back/MRI. The first available appointment is Nov 29...
 
Its assembly line medicine. Get the patient's in the door, make as much money as you can off them, and ship them out before something happens that you will have to pay for. I have worked on/off in just about every unit imaginable, but over the last 10yrs have done hospice work more than anything else because it felt less like an assembly line and more like I was making a difference in someones life. Since covid even it has started showing more with regards to profits over patients. Where I curently work, we were recently sent out an email outlining what we could or could not have in our nursing notes, as well as a list of meds they want us to get away from prescribing patients due to cost. Its absolutely insane that we can now be reprimanded for putting things like "patient stated they were having a good day today despite their pain being a 7/10" or putting a patient on seroquel for their mood. I have cut my hours back from fulltime to just a day or 2 weekly, just to keep my license active in case things go south with the other businesses I've started since covid
 
Fl-Krawler said:
Its assembly line medicine. Get the patient's in the door, make as much money as you can off them, and ship them out before something happens that you will have to pay for. I have worked on/off in just about every unit imaginable, but over the last 10yrs have done hospice work more than anything else because it felt less like an assembly line and more like I was making a difference in someones life. Since covid even it has started showing more with regards to profits over patients. Where I curently work, we were recently sent out an email outlining what we could or could not have in our nursing notes, as well as a list of meds they want us to get away from prescribing patients due to cost. Its absolutely insane that we can now be reprimanded for putting things like "patient stated they were having a good day today despite their pain being a 7/10" or putting a patient on seroquel for their mood. I have cut my hours back from fulltime to just a day or 2 weekly, just to keep my license active in case things go south with the other businesses I've started since covid
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I respect the hell out of the folks who do hospice work. That's tough.
 
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