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Vaccine FAILURE, on every level.

bunk said:
If you can homeschool, eliminate public education and all of its fancypants meetings that do nothing permanently. You do remember their attitude at meetings in the last few years dontcha? f em right out of a job
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i hate spending the money but my kids are going to private school. i wish homeschool would work, but the wife aint so smart in the book learning. and as the only earner i cant commit to a regular schedule.

i did however enroll my kids in 2 districts that i have address in... just so that i can 'pull them out' a week ahead of starting and let both districts know its because of their woke policies. its not much, but i'm doing what i can. we've already been assigned the public schools and teachers etc..:lmao: i dont think i can get in trouble for doing that, and just think if every kid in homeschool or private burdened the public systems planning and allocation resources, just to let them know they wont be attending b/c of wok policy. dont just quietly go away, be a thorn in their side.
 
I can not believe I'm hearing so many people mentioning masks and that we are even talking about it.
The Cochrane Review made it's conclusion, it's over. You don't point at the Cochrane Review as the medical version of the Supreme Court for over 60 years and then decide to ignore it on this.

Any place that even considers a mandate is a psycho version of an emotional child clutching a blanket.
 
the conservative atheist said:
Fraud of the century. Where is the accountability?
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bunk said:
The real problem woulda been the reactions to firing anyone. Dont you see how massively fucked our country is?
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Leaving federal policy in the hands of Fauci was a huge part of this mess. It gave cover to the blue states to go crazy.
 
Mikel said:
Leaving federal policy in the hands of Fauci was a huge part of this mess. It gave cover to the blue states to go crazy.
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Another trump was right by not trusting him. But he knew better than to can him at the time. Personally i think its bust to follow the actions of a president, versus their press conferences and soo on. I stopped listening to all that shit when clinton was pres.
 
bunk said:
Another trump was right by not trusting him. But he knew better than to can him at the time. Personally i think its bust to follow the actions of a president, versus their press conferences and soo on. I stopped listening to all that shit when clinton was pres.
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Then why didn’t he fire him? That would be the action I would support.
 
surpip said:
Then why didn’t he fire him? That would be the action I would support.
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IMO backlash internally and media wise would be my guess. It was quite the monkey wrench right when he was ramping up his election bid, so im sure that factored in as well.

He did indicate he didnt trust him, publicly. Multiiple times.
 
bunk said:
IMO backlash internally and media wise would be my guess. It was quite the monkey wrench right when he was ramping up his election bid, so im sure that factored in as well.

He did indicate he didnt trust him, publicly. Multiiple times.
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According to the media and the democrats (and I am repeating myself), he was already worse than Hitler and Genghis Khan. He should have fired Fauci and a lot of other political hacks at the CDC.
 
Mikel said:
According to the media, he was already worse than Hitler and Genghis Khan. He should have fired Fauci and a lot of other political hacks at the CDC.
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Wouldn't have made an inch of difference except allow the media to beat him with another stick. Federally covid under Trump was wildly different than covid under biden
 
Provience said:
Federally covid under Trump was wildly different than covid under biden
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Sure. But that does not change the fact that Trump's policy in 2020 was quite awful.

As opposed to the previous three years, which despite Trump's constant drama and self-destruction (and crazy spending), gave us surprisingly good policy.
 
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Mikel said:
Sure. But that does not change the fact that Trump's policy in 2020 was quite awful.

As opposed to the previous three years, which despite Trump's drama and theatrics (and crazy spending), gave us surprisingly good policy.
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Trumps policy was to publicly call out the source, say that it wasn't that bad and presch that it was more important to open up than avoid sickness.

Could Trump have vetoed congressional bills? Yes, they would have passed regardless and been worse off at that. Again, congress would have been worse if they went right through with their 2/3 policy. Miserably so.

The blue states flailing around were Miserable. The goal was to force the change in President in the US, it worked.

The original goal of covid was to consolidate power in China and end the Hong Kong riots, which it did that very well.
 
If he had fired fauci and ended the atf and DHS and every other agency he could influence he would have been tied up in court and kicked out of office near instantly
 
Provience said:
Trumps policy was to publicly call out the source, say that it wasn't that bad and presch that it was more important to open up than avoid sickness.

Could Trump have vetoed congressional bills? Yes, they would have passed regardless and been worse off at that. Again, congress would have been worse if they went right through with their 2/3 policy. Miserably so.

The blue states flailing around were Miserable. The goal was to force the change in President in the US, it worked.

The original goal of covid was to consolidate power in China and end the Hong Kong riots, which it did that very well.
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Trump presided over six or seven trillion freshly printed dollars of spending used to keep people at home that caused labor shortages and inflation, as well as subsidizing the madness of blue states (yes, he signed all those spending bills). At the end of his presidency he was begging congress for an additional $2000/person "stimulus". His federal agencies (he's the head of the executive after all) instituded completely unconstituitonal eviction and foreclosure moratoriums, as well as the original student loan payment moratorium. The less said about Fauci and Birx, the better. His administration was behind the vaccines everyone here love so much, as well as the immunity granted to the vaccine manufacturers.

Trump also had a very sketchy record when it came to lockdowns. He criticized Florida and Georgia when they announced they were ending the lockdowns, sounding very much like your average dem.

Yes, it was awful.
 
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Mikel said:
His administration was behind the vaccines everyone here love so much, as well as the immunity granted to the vaccine manufacturers.

Trump also had a very sketchy record when it came to lockdowns. He criticized Florida and Georgia when they announced they were ending the lockdowns, sounding very much like your average dem.

Yes, it was awful.
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His administration had nothing to do with vax immunity for companies, which has been around for a very long time.
Show me where he criticized ending lockdowns.
 
Yota Up said:
His administration had nothing to do with vax immunity for companies, which has been around for a very long time.
Show me where he criticized ending lockdowns.
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IIRC Trump signed the re-authorization of the PREP act in 2019.

And

www.nytimes.com

Trump Criticizes Georgia Governor for Decision to Reopen State (Published 2020)

“I think it’s too soon,” said the president, who joined several mayors in questioning Gov. Brian Kemp, a Republican, who had said some businesses could resume on Friday.
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If Trump hadn't gone along with Fauci especially in the beginning he would have been blamed for every single COVID death in the U.S. and beyond by the msm and social media. He would likely be in prison painted as a monster and Mikel would be cheering alongside your average Dem.
 
Mr.Ratbastard said:
If Trump hadn't gone along with Fauci especially in the beginning he would have been blamed for every single COVID death in the U.S. and beyond by the msm and social media. He would likely be in prison painted as a monster and Mikel would be cheering alongside your average Dem.
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He was blamed for every single death anyway. What did he get by keeping Fauci, Birx and all the others in charge of the federal institutions? Nothing.

By the summer of 2020, this site was full of comments from people saying that Fauci was a political hack with his own agenda, which had nothing to do with minimizing the suffering of the American people. If the schmucks on this forum could figure it out, surely the president of the United States should have.
 
Mikel said:
He was blamed for every single death anyway. What did he get by keeping Fauci, Birx and all the others in charge of the federal institutions? Nothing.

By the summer of 2020, this site was full of comments from people saying that Fauci was a political hack with his own agenda, which had nothing to do with minimizing the suffering of the American people. If the schmucks on this forum could figure it out, surely the president of the United States should have.
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We can throw around our opinions in here with little to no consequences.
 
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