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I've used roofing asphalt for that with good success.and then put grease down between the two metals when putting it together.
I've used roofing asphalt for that with good success.and then put grease down between the two metals when putting it together.
I bought all five main filters and 11 gallons of oil from the shop that did the inspection. I think in the future I'm going to just take the used oil from my normal vehicles and recycle it into the semi since I change them at 5k, so plenty of life left but I'm conservative. The semi I doubt will give a shit course, this one oil change will probably expire from time more so than miles too.
I also found a can of POR15 in town. I didn't feel like buying the needle tool thing for this one off task, so I just beat everything with the crowbar, then a quick run over with the grinder followed by some wire wheel action. Not the prettiest thing, but we're going for efficiency and a good ROI of time spent fucking with the rust.
It also seems that the angle iron with the holes is like riveted in or something? The bolts don't have a head you can grab onto, and the nut part is smooth and round, so even if I wanted to remove it and pray the rust gods were on my side, I have no idea how I would unthread the bolt from the nut without welding a head on. Point being, I'm not touching the angle iron and the rust in there will continue
I did two coats of the POR15, one right away and another before turning in for the night.
After that I removed a few parts, cut up the 2x6s and using the frame and tires as a table for the main perimeter tacked together.
I don't know if the suspension is at full bump, I hit the bag deflate switch on the dash with the ignition on and nothing seemed to happen, so I kind of assume it is? But in the event it's not, I went ahead and made the outside 2x6s stick past the tires. The outside of tire is 93", the cab is 95", so I made the interior cross members 95". Tire will have 1" of clearance, plus the tire obviously slopes in at the top for more room.
The inside lengthwise is 10ft plus a half inch so the 2x12 x 10' will fit with a little slop. One thing that is annoying though is I'm having the front cross member sit snug against one of the tread plates for one of the cargo boxes (I can't pull the tread plate easily since it's riveted to the box), this puts the front cross member right next to the stairs which is what I wanted anyways so it's a good reference point. But 10ft back from there is a few inches down the dovetail. If I slide everything forward so the rear sits right at the top of the dovetail, then the front is too far forward to make the steps usable.
Im thinking I'll just make a little bracket for the rear to space it off the dovetail so the deck is flat. Additionally, Im a retard and forgot about the rear of the dovetail which would need another 95" piece which I had assumed would be a 2x6. I don't have that, and frankly the dovetail isn't happening before this trip anyways. But between the whole deck sitting a couple inches over the dovetail, and then not having the 2x6 I originally planned for, I might get creative with the steel I have laying around since the deck dovetail won't be an identical match to the frame dovetail. I do have enough 2x6 stubs so the side profile of the dovetail will at least flow consistently, just the rearmost cross member might be some conglomerate of tubing I have laying around.
And lastly, I got the four 2x3 cross members cut and moved the other steel into the shop (minus the 1/4" plate). I'm thinking I'll cut 3/4" holes in the angle iron brackets with the plasma table, then I shouldn't have to drill anything. The brackets I'll add to the frame to supplement the 5th wheel plate bracket will just get welded, so the frame won't need to be drilled. That should save me some time and the headache of punching through 1/2" steel a bunch of times. Probably won't get the main deck done tomorrow, probably finish it Friday afternoon and then roll later Friday. We'll see. I don't plan to paint the deck yet since theres still a lot of stuff to figure out and buy before painting is justified.
I had a guy send me this last night which I like the looks of: Amazon.comThoughts on a gooseneck ball on the tail while you’re there?
The bags don't look deflated in your pictures but I may be wrong. Typically the lower part of the airbag mount will fold into the airbag itself when deflated if that makes sense. All of my trucks are gone for the day or else I'd grab a picture quick. If I had to guess, they drop about 4 inches or so when deflated.
Most upfitters run a spacer/isolator to the body to help with tire clearance and most bodies have low pro crossmembers over the tires as well to account for the travel. Not super familiar with the Volvo clearances but on the KW/International/Freightliner chassis, the tires definitely go above the top of the frame with no air.
I had a guy send me this last night which I like the looks of: Amazon.com
That will be a next week (or later) problem. I haven't measured where the gooseneck ball should go, so expect to make some changes and reinforce whatever local area it ends up going to. Same thing for a conventional receiver.
That's what I would've expected for the bags but wasn't sure if there just wasn't enough weight to compress them with nothing on the back. I'd say I made the right call making the frame wider than the tires then! The additional cross members I was going to offset ~12" from the axle centerline so the tire can stuff up in the gap between the cross members. That would give the tires 3-4" of clearance from the deck planks at (presumably) ride height, plus I could space the whole deck up if needed.
This is going to be a cool project. I do wonder how comfortable this would be compared to a modern 1 ton dually truck. I feel like since i already have a new dually I am ruined from going to something like this. I can't do without my big screen for navigation and AC seats :P
There is no comparison from an old big truck to a new pick-up in comfort and tech. If a 10k dollar big rig was more comfortable and easier to drive than a 90k dollar pickup everyone would have one. The big trucks are cool because they are cheap, functional and totally overkill for hauling a 4x4. I am also willing to bet this truck will still be rolling down the road when a 2024 diesel pickup is worn out.This is going to be a cool project. I do wonder how comfortable this would be compared to a modern 1 ton dually truck. I feel like since i already have a new dually I am ruined from going to something like this. I can't do without my big screen for navigation and AC seats :P
Or is broken down on the side of the road or at a dealership waiting on the emissions systems to be overhauled for the 5th time.There is no comparison from an old big truck to a new pick-up in comfort and tech. If a 10k dollar big rig was more comfortable and easier to drive than a 90k dollar pickup everyone would have one. The big trucks are cool because they are cheap, functional and totally overkill for hauling a 4x4. I am also willing to bet this truck will still be rolling down the road when a 2024 diesel pickup is worn out.
There is no comparison from an old big truck to a new pick-up in comfort and tech. If a 10k dollar big rig was more comfortable and easier to drive than a 90k dollar pickup everyone would have one. The big trucks are cool because they are cheap, functional and totally overkill for hauling a 4x4. I am also willing to bet this truck will still be rolling down the road when a 2024 diesel pickup is worn out.
Or is broken down on the side of the road or at a dealership waiting on the emissions systems to be overhauled for the 5th time.
The new emissions and payment make this look so much more comfortable :p
Agreed for sure. Plus the idea of having specific vehicles for specific purposes is also nice.The new emissions and payment make this look so much more comfortable :p
They ride terrible compared to a 1-ton dually, especially lightly loaded. NVH in cab isn't on the same level to a modern 1 ton either. I've never driven a optioned up 379 or a W900 with a big sleeper so those may be better, but the fleet spec T440/T660/T680 or Prostar/LT's I have been in are easily 10-15 years behind normal cars/trucks in terms of creature comforts.
I feel good when I get where I'm going with the dually and gooseneck but always feel a little beat up after driving the one of the big trucks all day. I laughed out loud hanging onto the wheel at points driving a bobtailed Prostar to Chicago from Denver over beat up pavement. When you're loaded up they aren't too bad though. Just have to manage ride expectations on a truck with a 52,000 GVWR that's running less than half capacity empty.
I couldnt disagree more. In out 86 pete with triple air ride i can drive for 10hrs staight. Its very smooth and comfortable at 24k to 48k lbs. Like any old truck u need to fo through the suspension and replace most of it. On the surface it all looks decent but i guarentee its worn af. I also put sound deadner in the interior and all u have left is to rebuild the door seals to get the nvh a little lower. I would choose my hdt to go x-country or to even haul an hour away every time.
Like everyone else said, way different spectrums. But I honestly thought it wasn't uncomfortable driving it from Idaho, but I also usually take one of my 1970s vehicles to lunch so maybe I've just built a tolerance to bad ride quality I was seriously looking at one tons a few months ago, but was put on the back burner since the wife got rear ended and we bought her a new vehicle. But even while I was looking, I never saw a truck that made me want to pull the trigger. The prices just seem insane. For something I really only need maybe once a week, this felt like something where it'd exceed all the capability I wanted and could be a cheap (ish, knock on wood) project that I could make my own and have a unique and cool toy to haul around my other toys.
A fancy one ton for how much they cost needed to be something more than a tow rig for me, but a tow rig is all I needed. If you could have one or two vehicles, would a one ton be a better choice? No doubt. But I have a half ton for hauling basic shit and going to the dump, I have some tweaked older vehicles for getting food and shorter trips, we have the wife's new vehicle for longer comfy trips, etc. A one ton wouldn't fit any of those roles very well, plus all of those are paid for and a lot of fun to drive and I'm not worried about beating on them and scratching them.
Like I said in the OP, I get rambling to reiterate, this is an experiment and for me it's the same as any other fun little shitbox old vehicle. If the semi shits itself it doesn't change anything for me, it gets parked (like the Hilux in the photos waiting for a coolant hose). Maybe I'll get a one ton someday, but I'm having a ton of fun with this and I've driven it three times hahaha. About the same fun/driving ratio as the buggy
I couldnt disagree more. In out 86 pete with triple air ride i can drive for 10hrs staight. Its very smooth and comfortable at 24k to 48k lbs. Like any old truck u need to fo through the suspension and replace most of it. On the surface it all looks decent but i guarentee its worn af. I also put sound deadner in the interior and all u have left is to rebuild the door seals to get the nvh a little lower. I would choose my hdt to go x-country or to even haul an hour away every time.
Everything you said has been on my list. My buddy rode in the truck and said he thought it rode horrible and new shocks would make it a lot nicer (and if this is the worst ride it'll have, I'm not complaining at all then!). I also wanted to add sound deadening since it's not quiet by any stretch.
Is there a brand of shock you recommend? I've seen people say go OEM or Gabriel's, but he'll there's even Foxs it looks like? I don't know if there's a shock more oriented for light loads too? And are there other suspension components that affect the ride quality I should look at, or is it just replace the shocks and inspect the bags?
An F/R air ride Pete that has been thoroughly worked over is a hell of a lot different than a sub $10k fleet spec tractor.
Ok fucker, whats the story on this. Cage and bed mounted radiator?????(like the Hilux in the photos waiting for a coolant hose)
Let the boy have his 2JZsOk fucker, whats the story on this. Cage and bed mounted radiator?????
Also, whats this?
With the super singles you might find a tire pressure load chart and get your tire pressure set more realistic to the load.
You won't need the 110 psi I think.
Hahaha it's a 1978 Toyota Pickup (TECHNICALLY not a Hilux but physically identically, or was). After building the buggy engine I wanted another vehicle to give me an excuse to build a fun engine, I like old Japanese stuff so looked around for awhile and found it for $300 without a motor which was perfect. I bought a 2JZ with full harness from a IS300 for $1000 and made it a standalone, then bought a CD009 6 speed manual from a 350z off eBay for $1100 and swapped those in. The cab and front clip I didn't want to mess with, and the 2JZ barely fit between the firewall and hood support, so I mounted the radiator in the back and a little roll bar for it. It's a 3" griffin with a Ford Taurus fan and absolutely fucks, sometimes going down hills even with the fan off (and a thermostat) it'll drop temp to like 140Ok fucker, whats the story on this. Cage and bed mounted radiator?????
Also, whats this?
That little fucker needs 30 psi setup for sureGood idea. I checked the tires today and they were all 100-110 and I was wondering if the rears should get lowered but wasn't sure if that made sense with semi tires. I'll have to look into that!
Hahaha it's a 1978 Toyota Pickup (TECHNICALLY not a Hilux but physically identically, or was). After building the buggy engine I wanted another vehicle to give me an excuse to build a fun engine, I like old Japanese stuff so looked around for awhile and found it for $300 without a motor which was perfect. I bought a 2JZ with full harness from a IS300 for $1000 and made it a standalone, then bought a CD009 6 speed manual from a 350z off eBay for $1100 and swapped those in. The cab and front clip I didn't want to mess with, and the 2JZ barely fit between the firewall and hood support, so I mounted the radiator in the back and a little roll bar for it. It's a 3" griffin with a Ford Taurus fan and absolutely fucks, sometimes going down hills even with the fan off (and a thermostat) it'll drop temp to like 140
It has an Aeromotive fuel cell with their in tank A1000 pump and AN10 lines feeding the 2JZ, essentially it's plumbed for 1000hp. The fuel cell I made cross members for so it's literally as far back in the frame as possible to get as much rear weight as I can. The 2JZ is still 100% stock and naturally aspirated, I actually dynoed it and it was like 120hp as I recall since half the cylinders have barely any compression. But it still spins the tires through 2nd since it weighs like 2000 lbs
Wrapping back around to that above photo, I found another 2JZ in St George for $300 that had been overheated. I grabbed that and my pseudo plan is to build that engine (naturally aspirated ones have weak rods so can't take much more than like 5-7psi) and then I'll just swap the engine in it for the built engine.
It is an extremely fun and cool little truck. Super cheap, I try to not get too sexy with it and not take it too seriously. I've driven it 500 miles around trip up to Salt Lake City to go shooting and it cruises great and is actually really tight. It revs really high, ton of fun to shift, weighs nothing. From the front looks totally stock. I want to build the engine, and I have a carpet kit and sound deadening for the interior. I also plan to lower it and link the back with some pushrod suspension. I've thought about doing some trick AWD system, that'd be fun. It is the first and only 2WD vehicle I've owned haha
Didn't mean to type this much, there's a lot to that little truck though and that's the tip of the iceberg
Dumb question but will the contact profile be ok if he runs less?With the super singles you might find a tire pressure load chart and get your tire pressure set more realistic to the load.
You won't need the 110 psi I think.