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Theoretical question - when is it time for the people start taking their towns back?

jeepyj said:
You also need a plan to escape the roof of a burning building.

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Well, that means I've really fucking failed my rooftop post.

But, I'll just walk off the roof of my back porch and plop into my huge white trash above ground pool ftmfw:laughing:
 
I know some dudes in Michigan that have a 5 ton loaded up just waiting...
 
Not likely to get any action at my house since we live outside a smallish farm town in NC. Not enough critical mass of yutes who could turn to rabble rousing, thank God. That said I have my shotguns and other supplies at the ready should anyone get froggy. Our 300 foot drive makes a nice field of fire...

Our subdivision would be easy to block off from vehicle traffic since there is only one way in/out but the adjacent subdivisions would have to be controlled as well if we did not want to be flanked. That would take a good 40 people 24/7 to accomplish. And then there are the train tracks. Not that I've thought about it at all.
 
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Provience said:
don't go alone. roof top koreans work because there are several of them.

have a lawful right to defend where ever you are.

obvious warnings, well in advance. bullhorn is a good idea.

don't say a damned thing that isn't a legal and justified warning of "you need to leave"


that's it. mostly as an effective deterrent, convince people on the edge that they should go elsewhere. the dude in (whatever state) that owned the bar and killed the other dude last night/yesterday won't be charged, but he still fucked up in a few spots. there is claims that he was responding verbally to the crowd and egging them on, taunting. Some in the crowd said "it ain't worth it" to the guys that went to interact with him. they came swinging, he came shooting. just a couple rounds and everybody dispersed with 1 guy dead.

you are not there to premediate murder, you are there to defend what is within your right to defend, not the target down the street.
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Well said.
 
https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelphia-gunstore-owner-shoots-kills-armed-looter

this goes here :flipoff2:

owner of gun store in Philly went to his business. 2 days ago, people tried to break in through his back door and failed. last night, he decided to be inside the store. Shot and killed 1 of 3 or 4 people, wounded another. his comments to the reporters? "no comment"

:beer: to that guy.

not because he killed somebody, but because he was defending his property and his life and then didn't go on to spin it into division and bullshit.
 
DozerDan82 said:
Just remember- any 'warning' shots should be directed such that the reflecting angle can still impact said targets, no need to fully waste a bullet. If I had a store I would sit inside and open fire at the first entree. Gonna be harder to come in as the body stack up -- right?
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If you pull the trigger, make damn sure it's justified because you'll be on about 10 cell phone cameras in the act.
 
D-Rat said:
If you pull the trigger, make damn sure it's justified because you'll be on about 10 cell phone cameras in the act.
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That's the problem. If things get weird here, we're going east. I don't wan't to be the center of a spun "black kid shot by white dude" story unless absolutely necessary

Fawk the house, it can be replaced.
 
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DirtRoads said:
That's the problem. If things get weird here, we're going east. I don't wan't to be the center of a spun "black kid shot by white dude" story unless absolutely necessary

Fawk the house, it can be replaced.
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Sad thing is, this mentality is putting people at risk. My friend owns a gun range and a drunk black guy (non-member of the range) was told he could not shoot that day and was asked to leave. As he was leaving he fired 30 rounds next to the range house. My friend and the staff would have been totally justified shooting back (they thought they/the occupied house were being shot at) but were fearful of the white killing black backlash as this was only 1-2 days after the Floyd killing.
 
Things are getting more heated here in Roanoke, VA. I hope that the rest of the country settles down, and they follow suit here before any violence occurs. I live two blocks from the police station. If rioting erupts I will be affected. My gf and son are here. Logan and I practiced loading mags last night. He did okay. :laughing:
We talked about a defense plan and retreat plan. He was into it, and I think that he liked being treated as a man that is useful. I won't go into what we have, but we are ready if it comes to us. I think that they will decide quickly to pick a softer target.
 
Not a peep where I am. Nothing. We're more concerned with businesses opening again from the Covids.
 
Provience said:
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Rooftop Koreans work because they are a gang. No, they are a criminal gang involved in prostitution, illegal immigration, money laundering, etc.

The other factor is 'Keh'. Look that up. Keh.

Keh is Koreans getting together with other Koreans and pooling their money. Organized by women. Say 10 couples. For nine months, you present $10,000 to one of the members of the Keh. He gets a $90,000 interest-free loan. On the 10th month, you get your $90,000 back in one chunk. So you can't pool $90,000 in one month, but you can get it one big chunk if you do this. Just save your own money, right? Well, if you draw the lot on the 8th month or earlier, you get $90,000 before you could have ever saved it. The last couple in line doesn't really lose anything because it would have taken them that long to save their money anyway. You literally have a 9/10 chance of getting $90,000 before you could ever save it. Those are good odds.

Plus if you get the money, you have throw a home-made banquet commensurate with the amount, so you get a free meal on the Keh day.

It's a kickass system, but what's to prevent the first 9 Koreans from saying "Got my $90,000, seeya fuckos!"?

Because Koreans don't fuck around with that shit. Korean is a difficult and little-spoken language, and it's hard to lose the accent. So if you get ostracized by the Korean community, you're fucking fucked. You are going to be doing dishes at a Chinese buffet and Chinese and Koreans don't get along.

So, as I've said before, countless times:

Koreans take care of themselves, Whites do not take care of themselves.

Blacks march and get their shit, Whites don't.

Jews watch out for each other and give each other jobs and persecute people who offend Jews. Whites don't.

Native Americans start lobbying groups to help other NAs. Whites don't.

And in the same way:

Koreans, Blacks, Jews, Indians, and everyone else watches out for each other. Whites don't and wont.

Draw this out to its logical conclusion.
 
Huntmaster said:
Heard POTUS speech talking about sending military and civilian forces. What the hell are civilian forces? Am I enrolled in something I'm not aware of?:eek:

God help us if he's sending Permar security.....
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Civilian forces are the Cops, FBI, ATF, etc. Military Police are literally MPs, under the UCMJ. Civilian forces are under our Civil Law.

So FBI agents are under pain of prosecution just like us, Lon Horiuchi for instance was charged and put on trial for the murder of Vicki Weaver (he got off).

A US Marine is not subject to that prosecution while in the performance of her duty. A Marine can be charged for an assault or theft while acting as Susie Rottencrotch, but if she is assembled as a riot force on duty and shoots people, a Civilian Court literally cannot prosecute her.

An important distinction to make.
 
clodhopper said:
Sooooo…. white people aren't racist?

Maybe I missed your point.
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No, you got the point.

White people will not defend a white town and it won't happen now. Because you see standing up for whites as 'Racist', you will not do it.

A Rooftop Korean has no such compunction. They are racist. They are not going to defend your white-owned store. They will defend a Korean store, and they will show the fuck up because if they don't, the other Koreans are going to show up at his house and beat the fuck out of him and his wife and kids, then they're going to treat that person as if he were dead.

People don't show up on another person's roof to defend their store in shifts, likely to be either shot and/or prosecuted, unless there is some type of sanction to do so.

The only way Whites will even begin to defend something is if there is an Old Navy proportion of minorities in the group, like a couple of blacks and a Mexican or so. Look at the militias and promised keepers and shit.

Even then, they're not going to stick because there is no sanction to do so.
 
evernoob said:
Rooftop Koreans work because they are a gang. No, they are a criminal gang involved in prostitution, illegal immigration, money laundering, etc.

The other factor is 'Keh'. Look that up. Keh.

Keh is Koreans getting together with other Koreans and pooling their money. Organized by women. Say 10 couples. For nine months, you present $10,000 to one of the members of the Keh. He gets a $90,000 interest-free loan. On the 10th month, you get your $90,000 back in one chunk. So you can't pool $90,000 in one month, but you can get it one big chunk if you do this. Just save your own money, right? Well, if you draw the lot on the 8th month or earlier, you get $90,000 before you could have ever saved it. The last couple in line doesn't really lose anything because it would have taken them that long to save their money anyway. You literally have a 9/10 chance of getting $90,000 before you could ever save it. Those are good odds.

Plus if you get the money, you have throw a home-made banquet commensurate with the amount, so you get a free meal on the Keh day.

It's a kickass system, but what's to prevent the first 9 Koreans from saying "Got my $90,000, seeya fuckos!"?

Because Koreans don't fuck around with that shit. Korean is a difficult and little-spoken language, and it's hard to lose the accent. So if you get ostracized by the Korean community, you're fucking fucked. You are going to be doing dishes at a Chinese buffet and Chinese and Koreans don't get along.

So, as I've said before, countless times:

Koreans take care of themselves, Whites do not take care of themselves.

Blacks march and get their shit, Whites don't.

Jews watch out for each other and give each other jobs and persecute people who offend Jews. Whites don't.

Native Americans start lobbying groups to help other NAs. Whites don't.

And in the same way:

Koreans, Blacks, Jews, Indians, and everyone else watches out for each other. Whites don't and wont.

Draw this out to its logical conclusion.
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Do you know why we've never bothered? We've been the vast majority of the population of this country from its founding, until the last 20 years. We didn't need to do anything, we just were. We were the Alpha and the Omega and whatever else there was that existed was because we let it. Like the alligator that let the bird clean his teeth, he exists only because the alligator chooses so.
 
clodhopper said:
Sooooo…. white people aren't racist?

Maybe I missed your point.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...-f6914e21f5c9/
Each member must have utter confidence -- almost inconceivable to Americans -- that all the club members will continue to show up and pay their share every month, long after they have received their own payoff.

There is only one thing standing in the way of an individual skipping out: Purposeful default would bring shame on not just the individual, but that person's family. It likely would lead to difficulty in getting a job among Koreans, or even getting a marriage partner.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...success/f729bffa-04f2-4c35-af88-f6914e21f5c9/
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...success/f729bffa-04f2-4c35-af88-f6914e21f5c9/

Read that again, in context of 1991:

Each member must have utter confidence -- almost inconceivable to Americans -- that all the club members will continue to show up
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That's almost inconceivable to WHITES. A 1991 WaPo article is written assuming Americans are white, this is pre-pozzed.

That is why Rooftoop Koreans will go to a 12 hour shift at the Laundry, then show up at his Uncle's store with a gun for an 8-hour shift shooting at rioters.

Whites ain't gonna do that shit :laughing:

The whole concept is a joke.
 
evernoob said:
No, you got the point.

White people will not defend a white town and it won't happen now. Because you see standing up for whites as 'Racist', you will not do it.

A Rooftop Korean has no such compunction. They are racist. They are not going to defend your white-owned store. They will defend a Korean store, and they will show the fuck up because if they don't, the other Koreans are going to show up at his house and beat the fuck out of him and his wife and kids, then they're going to treat that person as if he were dead.

People don't show up on another person's roof to defend their store in shifts, likely to be either shot and/or prosecuted, unless there is some type of sanction to do so.

The only way Whites will even begin to defend something is if there is an Old Navy proportion of minorities in the group, like a couple of blacks and a Mexican or so. Look at the militias and promised keepers and shit.

Even then, they're not going to stick because there is no sanction to do so.
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Dunno where you live. It is pretty monochromatic in my area and we help each other for no reason but they need the help. If a bunch of rioters (read looters) headed into our area you can bet your ass that they would be repelled by a large group of likeminded people who believe in morals and responsibility.

If you don't trust your neighbors and they don't support you or each other..... Why do you still live there? :shaking:
 
clodhopper said:
Dunno where you live. It is pretty monochromatic in my area and we help each other for no reason but they need the help. If a bunch of rioters (read looters) headed into our area you can bet your ass that they would be repelled by a large group of likeminded people who believe in morals and responsibility.

If you don't trust your neighbors and they don't support you or each other..... Why do you still live there? :shaking:
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Bullshit 🤣

You already have Illegals working in your town, the women of the town are organizing bake sales for minorities, the churches in your town are flying rainbow flags.

How do I know this? Because your town is exactly like every other town in America. There is no local culture anymore, it doesn't exist. You are not special and neither is your town.

When HUD wants to build Section 8 housing in your town, your Contractors are going to be lining up to get the bids, and suppressing any opposition at your Council meeting.

Rinse and repeat, Mr. Naive.
 
evernoob said:
Bullshit 🤣

You already have Illegals working in your town, the women of the town are organizing bake sales for minorities, the churches in your town are flying rainbow flags.

How do I know this? Because your town is exactly like every other town in America. There is no local culture anymore, it doesn't exist. You are not special and neither is your town.

When HUD wants to build Section 8 housing in your town, your Contractors are going to be lining up to get the bids, and suppressing any opposition at your Council meeting.

Rinse and repeat, Mr. Naive.
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You've watched too many dystopian "this is what the future hold" movies.
 
scooter2374 said:
You've watched too many dystopian "this is what the future hold" movies.
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Hmmm, not aware of a movement defending small towns. A wal mart moves in, all the shops close, and Illegals start living in big communes closer and closer to town until they have a section of it. All the residents of the town either move away or get addicted to drugs. Someone gets the idea a prison or casino should move in. The residents of the town get convinced to work at the prison or casino, but only for shit wages. The State moves people from out of town to do the Prison administration, the townspeople get to wash shit off the walls and be stabbed by convicts.

Then the families of the convicts show up and take up residence. Now there is a neighborhood of convict families and ex-convicts living there, but at least they sold a few houses.

At the casino, townspeople get to clean the bathroom and dump ashtrays, but not hold management positions or any ownership.

If you are aware of a small town or conservative enclave that has faced these forces and stood up for their residents first, I'd be happy to hear about it. I'm not aware of a single one.

So the idea that suddenly and magically Conservatives are going to turn into Rooftop Koreans is a fucking joke.

It's that last stand of denial you hold in your mind "Oh if it really comes down to it we'll stand up for each other" before you finally realize.... it's never going to happen.
 
evernoob said:
Hmmm, not aware of a movement defending small towns. A wal mart moves in, all the shops close, and Illegals start living in big communes closer and closer to town until they have a section of it. All the residents of the town either move away or get addicted to drugs. Someone gets the idea a prison or casino should move in. The residents of the town get convinced to work at the prison or casino, but only for shit wages. The State moves people from out of town to do the Prison administration, the townspeople get to wash shit off the walls and be stabbed by convicts.

Then the families of the convicts show up and take up residence. Now there is a neighborhood of convict families and ex-convicts living there, but at least they sold a few houses.

At the casino, townspeople get to clean the bathroom and dump ashtrays, but not hold management positions or any ownership.

If you are aware of a small town or conservative enclave that has faced these forces and stood up for their residents first, I'd be happy to hear about it. I'm not aware of a single one.

So the idea that suddenly and magically Conservatives are going to turn into Rooftop Koreans is a fucking joke.

It's that last stand of denial you hold in your mind "Oh if it really comes down to it we'll stand up for each other" before you finally realize.... it's never going to happen.
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What you are describing IS the dystopian future. In middle America people still say hi when walking down the street. It's not all like NYC or some other shit hole. People do still care about each other and help each other out.
 
evernoob said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...-f6914e21f5c9/



Read that again, in context of 1991:



That's almost inconceivable to WHITES. A 1991 WaPo article is written assuming Americans are white, this is pre-pozzed.

That is why Rooftoop Koreans will go to a 12 hour shift at the Laundry, then show up at his Uncle's store with a gun for an 8-hour shift shooting at rioters.

Whites ain't gonna do that shit :laughing:

The whole concept is a joke.
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You really are a fucking retard. Koreans dont do that with other random Koreans its with families and friends. The fact that you dont think whites will do that shows you just how big a piece of shit you are, you just dont know anyone that will help you. My friends and family will god damn guanrantee to show up after working 12 hours to help with whatever. I can also go to a number of them and say "i need 10Gs" and not need to spell out when Im going to pay it back because they know it will be asap. So to summarize its not whites, its you.
 
Stuck said:
You really are a fucking retard. Koreans dont do that with other random Koreans its with families and friends. The fact that you dont think whites will do that shows you just how big a piece of shit you are, you just dont know anyone that will help you. My friends and family will god damn guanrantee to show up after working 12 hours to help with whatever. I can also go to a number of them and say "i need 10Gs" and not need to spell out when Im going to pay it back because they know it will be asap. So to summarize its not whites, its you.
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All theory.

We have proof of Rooftop Koreans, but just "yeah but if..." from you, with plenty of evidence otherwise. It'll take the evidence, thanks. Good luck to you and I hope you strengthen ties within your community.
 
scooter2374 said:
What you are describing IS the dystopian future. In middle America people still say hi when walking down the street. It's not all like NYC or some other shit hole. People do still care about each other and help each other out.
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Right, in an environment which is still largely white and which doesn't really matter on the Electoral map. I live in such a community and maybe I will document it coming apart for a book deal. Write it from the bearded soy perspective, sure to get a book deal out of NYC. It's good, we're diverse!!!

When it comes down to nuts and bolts, that civility is ruined by both Multiculturalism and formal demoralization campaigns in the media, Academia, and the Law.

Please pay attention and keep up on this, you'll see it's true. The work is already done long before the crisis strikes. If you can provide an exception I'd love to hear it. Katrina is still about NOLA and black people, even though the eye struck the white Gulf Coast.
 
scooter2374 said:
Do you know why we've never bothered? We've been the vast majority of the population of this country from its founding, until the last 20 years. We didn't need to do anything, we just were. We were the Alpha and the Omega and whatever else there was that existed was because we let it. Like the alligator that let the bird clean his teeth, he exists only because the alligator chooses so.
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All true. But the people at the Omega side of the scale have dropped off the map if they're white. There is not a serious movement of any type in this country to address what's happening to the bottom end of the white scale.

I don't even deny that 'minorities' shouldn't stand up for themselves. They should. But it's not fair the white people who aren't hooked in the power structure, the vast majority of us, have to get plowed over.

Eventually the alligator is going to have to do something or else the birds will begin eating its eyes and tongue.
 
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