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I eyeballed the Kioti CK, liked it. The DK had more rebates at the time making it like $100-200 more. glad I got the bigger tractor. I bought an Import grapple from ***an. I've had to work on it, but havent bent it yet. It's a little heavy.. glad I got the bigger tractor.
 
Was gonna suggest getting a 48-54" grapple vs the 60". If you only have 1400# of lift capacity I would prefer to give up a little width to slim down the weight on the grapple itself so you can lift more.

I have a 60" ***an grapple and their website says it weighs 625#. I have a 60hp tractor and lift of 2500# and still run out of lift occasionally. Not usually an issue moving brush and stuff but I have cleaned up junk iron piles before and it was getting close.

I got my grapple used so it wasn't quite that much but I use it a lot. works great for brush clearing, grubbing out rocks, within reason, moving logs to the firewood splitter. I use it to turn my compost piles as well. Think tractor size pitch fork. :laughing:
 
Wades_76_cj7 said:
Was gonna suggest getting a 48-54" grapple vs the 60". If you only have 1400# of lift capacity I would prefer to give up a little width to slim down the weight on the grapple itself so you can lift more.

I have a 60" ***an grapple and their website says it weighs 625#. I have a 60hp tractor and lift of 2500# and still run out of lift occasionally. Not usually an issue moving brush and stuff but I have cleaned up junk iron piles before and it was getting close.

I got my grapple used so it wasn't quite that much but I use it a lot. works great for brush clearing, grubbing out rocks, within reason, moving logs to the firewood splitter. I use it to turn my compost piles as well. Think tractor size pitch fork. :laughing:
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Was just matching grapple to bucket size. I'll look into the weights of each size and go from there. Kubota asked if I wanted a 70"+ or the 60" and I went 60" because of that very reason, less weight. I'll look into the smaller ones for sure.
aczlan said:
You will make that difference up in resale if you ever need to sell it.
Otherwise, both make a good machine.

Aaron Z
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Resale doesnt concern me too much. If I need to lift more or move more dirt I'll buy a mini, if I need more PTO power I can get a second cheaper higher HP tractor (already have a line on one from a co-worker, talking $1-2000) or borrow my inlaws 47hp. The Kubota would definitely fetch more though.
 
A slightly smaller grapple than the bucket is the way to go, unless you have tons of power and lift capacity to spare. I got a 60" wide grapple for the 4052R that came with a 73" wide bucket, I still max out the lift moving stumps. It came from Worksaver attachments, not my first choice. have put it through a lot in a couple of years, bent some tines, but it still works fine.

I would look at Everything Attachments for a buy once, cry once, and never have to worry about it type of deal. Or try IronCraft USA, they use to be the ***an brand made in the USA, and people got them confused with the cheap Chinese junk also from a ***an company that hardly fits, or breaks easily.
 
urjb said:
Smaller grapple is no problem at all. Weighs less, costs less, and it fits between trees better. On uneven ground it’ll be harder to keep the larger grapple level with the ground. I have this.. https://www.palletforks.com/skid-st...r-root-grapple-rake-attachments/SSRGRAKE.html

And use it like a brush rake. If it’s not levelish, one side is digging in and the other is in the air.
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So looks like Kioti offers a 48". They have the compact 48" at 216lbs vs the compact 60" at 251lbs. The standard duty 60" is 286lbs. I'll have to see what he quoted me as he didnt put part numbers on my quote.

Kubota/Landpride only offers a 60" at 247lbs so I would have to go elsewhere for a smaller grapple.
 
Krackle959 said:
A slightly smaller grapple than the bucket is the way to go, unless you have tons of power and lift capacity to spare. I got a 60" wide grapple for the 4052R that came with a 73" wide bucket, I still max out the lift moving stumps. It came from Worksaver attachments, not my first choice. have put it through a lot in a couple of years, bent some tines, but it still works fine.

I would look at Everything Attachments for a buy once, cry once, and never have to worry about it type of deal. Or try IronCraft USA, they use to be the ***an brand made in the USA, and people got them confused with the cheap Chinese junk also from a ***an company that hardly fits, or breaks easily.
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See thats what I have picked right now. The bucket is 66" and all the grapples are 60".
 
Alpine4x4 said:
See thats what I have picked right now. The bucket is 66" and all the grapples are 60".
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You should be fine with that choice. I haven’t wanted a wider grapple for anything that I have moved with it, brush, logs, stumps, rocks.

Check the manufacturers weights as different companies same width grapple can be several hundred pounds more or less than what you are looking at. Often that detail is overlooked until after it’s bought.
 
urjb said:
Smaller grapple is no problem at all. Weighs less, costs less, and it fits between trees better. On uneven ground it’ll be harder to keep the larger grapple level with the ground. I have this.. https://www.palletforks.com/skid-st...r-root-grapple-rake-attachments/SSRGRAKE.html

And use it like a brush rake. If it’s not levelish, one side is digging in and the other is in the air.
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Excellent point on that, unless you're using the grapple to rake debris off the ground, you can pick up more weight with a narrower grapple and it can be less likely to bend the lid (if you have a one piece lid).

Aaron Z
 
billybob_81067 said:
Probably bigger than most folks in this thread need, but I just won this turd on bigiron...

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I ain't even a John Deere guy...
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I’ve put a ton of hours on one of those things. Sucker could pull too.
 
For those of you running a grapple, do you have the kind that has more of a bucket profile, or the type with the shorter bottom, and more vertical moving jaw?

I'm looking for one for my New Holland TN65 but I can't decide which one I'll be happier with.

Will be used for moving logs, brush, and debris more-so than anything else.

I have pallet forks already, and I'm building a rock bucket, so I'm thinking the short one like linked a few posts back?
 
Mine is the bucket style with two grapples. cylinder on each one but they are independent. Makes grabbing rocks, logs, stumps and other **** easier since the tines will grab it better than a single hinged "door" trying to clamp onto the object. For what I do it works great.

From what I have read the clamshell types are better suited to skid steers with more ground engaging power where you are grubbing out roots and rocks. The bucket style works best for cleaning up "loose" items, think brush piles, a rock or something on top of the ground, logs for the wood splitter, works great for loading brush or junk in the dump trailer. :smokin:
 
Squatch said:
For those of you running a grapple, do you have the kind that has more of a bucket profile, or the type with the shorter bottom, and more vertical moving jaw?

I'm looking for one for my New Holland TN65 but I can't decide which one I'll be happier with.

Will be used for moving logs, brush, and debris more-so than anything else.

I have pallet forks already, and I'm building a rock bucket, so I'm thinking the short one like linked a few posts back?
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I have the short bottom. Pretty sure its this one Land Pride

I use it to move logs and rocks all the time, its light weight, yet strong, thanks to the AR plate, so I have all the lift capacity I can get for what I am trying to lift. I 100% over do things moving some of the logs I do and the rocks I move, and its holding up great. The short bottom teeth, really work for prying rocks out of the ground.

Its probably the most used accessory I have bought .
 
I have this.. it is exactly right for what I do.. forest clean up and moving logs. The steel parts are holding up great. All the bolts need loctite and it puked an o-ring on one cylinder, but NAPA had a “close enough“ replacement. Fits a bit loose on my SSQA, but I’ll shim it one of these days.

The hoses were extra long so I had em cut down locally. I think I swapped the hydro connectors with ag type from tractor supply.
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Wheelin66bronco said:
I looked again when I took the tiller off the 3 point. I do have a shear pin on the tractor end of the PTO drive line. Couldn't see well under the protective boot.
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I would replace the bolt then, it should be shearing before you break tine bolts off.
What size is it? I think our Kubota 60-in tiller takes a 5/16 grade 5 Bolt.

Aaron Z
 
If any of you guys are looking for a tractor, Im gonna be putting my Kioti DK4210SE HST up for sale in the next week. It will be coming with a KL5520 loader, 48" grapple, 60" brush cutter, bucket and a box blade. It was purchased new in Sept of 2019 and has 804hrs on it currently. Its been a great tractor but my needs have far exceeded the capabilities of the tractor so we are going to replace it with a Kubota svt95-2
 
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Does anyone know who makes Kiotis rear mount snowblowers? My dealer carries Braber and I've read good and bad about them. Seems hit or miss in quality, made in China. I know Kubotas is made by RAD and the old front mount Kiotis were Woods.

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Snow Blower

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have you checked out the snow throwers that Goodworks Tractor sells?

www.goodworkstractors.com

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Jeebus, I was about to recommend a Frontier snowblower, also made by RAD Tech, but the model I have is now dang near $4000. I bundled it with my little 1025R I bought in 2013 and it cost me $2100 at the time.... I would second the opinion on a snowblower manufactured by them. It looks like they're a Tier 1 supplier for equipement for a lot of major OEMs. My Frontier is build like a tank.
 
Wades_76_cj7 said:
have you checked out the snow throwers that Goodworks Tractor sells?

www.goodworkstractors.com

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Tractor attachments for sale for your tractor's 3-Point Hitch and Front-End Loader. Prices include our Worry-Free Guarantee and Shipping. Shop today!
www.goodworkstractors.com www.goodworkstractors.com
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Looks like a RAD design.
krugford said:
Jeebus, I was about to recommend a Frontier snowblower, also made by RAD Tech, but the model I have is now dang near $4000. I bundled it with my little 1025R I bought in 2013 and it cost me $2100 at the time.... I would second the opinion on a snowblower manufactured by them. It looks like they're a Tier 1 supplier for equipement for a lot of major OEMs. My Frontier is build like a tank.
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They're all about that. Kubotas is $4200 made by RAD and the Braber is $3200. One thing I like about the RAD blowers is you can change the side the chute handle is on. The Braber is one side only and it just happens to be the same side the bucket controls are on.
 
Looking at two tractors. They are in different categories to some degree. I understand that. I want some opinions on them. 2big bronco

One is a used 2021 ~300 hours New Holland Workmaster 55 w/cab and 4x4. 2 remote hydraulics and FEL. Old man owned but is getting scared of hurting himself now. 30k minimal warranty left.
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Second is a Massey Ferguson 4707. Way heavier and way bigger tractor. Cabless so less crap to go wrong which I like. And the heat doesn’t bother me. 70HP 4x4 and FEL with self leveling bucket. More bells and whistles on this one and brand new with warranty. Dealer is a friend and a decent price for new. 54k but can finance 60 months no interest.
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Plans are hay and cattle crap. Will be used residentially some just moving dirt and cleaning stuff up and our houses. I use my fathers Kubota 4601 which does great but I hate borrowing his stuff. So it’s not like we have to have this tractor fit in small places. One more big ask is needing to push over some trees that have grown up on some laid out land. Maybe 6” around at the biggest. Doesn’t mean I have to take all the trees out but would like to get most of them.

What does the IBB think on these? Pretty big price difference.
 
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