The Red Truck...2.0

[rockota]

For your viewing pleasure...

I hate you just a little bit right now....

 

[Arickvan]

For your viewing pleasure...

is that at gold lake?

 

[Rubirunner85]

Was hoping you finished it up. Came out as expected

 

[OCD]

is that at gold lake?

That’s the dirt launch ramp at Loon Lake over near the spillway. That was the last rubicon trip before the roll in Moab...

 

[OCD]

Was hoping you finished it up. Came out as expected

I wish I was done! That’s right before we murdered it. It’s much more red now....

 

[OCD]

I hate you just a little bit right now....

That’s how I know when I’m doing something right....

 

[Rubirunner85]

I wish I was done! That’s right before we murdered it. It’s much more red now....

Looking forward to seeing it on the trail. Let me know what second gen stuff you don’t use. I might need some stuff.

 

[OCD]

My research so far has been limited. Is there a preferred shaft? 85 steering column uses the larger serviceable joint and the 86 uses the smaller non serviceable unit. Both shafts are the same dimensions and appear to be interchangeable within the column housings and with intermediate shafts. The smaller joint slips through the baseplate at the firewall and allows for easier column removable and dash assembly with the cage. Larger joint requires that baseplate come out with the column as an assembly. That baseplate to firewall gasket is a PITA!

 

[Carbon]

http://www.woodwardsteering.com/PDF/...d%20Shafts.pdf

UA201108 is what I use.

Call them up. Very helpful over the phone.

 

[OCD]

http://www.woodwardsteering.com/PDF/...d%20Shafts.pdf

UA201108 is what I use.

Call them up. Very helpful over the phone.

Those are impressive. Will definitely be ordering a couple for our black truck, but I’m not looking to upgrade the stock setup on our red truck at this point. It’s worked well for approximately 10 years of trail use. Was just curious to see what IBB thought of the 2 different factory joints and if there was a preferred unit. If no one has any input I’ll probably just use the smaller joint to make dash assembly and disassembly easier....

Been working on the electrical here and there. Hope to cut the windshield down to size this weekend, that should be an adventure...

 

[Rubirunner85]

I’ve never heard or seen a u joint on the steering fail. A rag joint.. now thats a different story.

 

[OCD]

This is kind of lame, but I hate the glued in windshield trim and have always wanted to try the roped in gasket on one of our 2nd gen trucks. The FW471 aftermarket glass did not fit using the roped in gasket. 5/16” needed to be trimmed from the bottom edge and from one side. Fits nice...

 

[Boomtacoma01]

Its not that lame. Good information to know.

 

[OCD]

Its not that lame. Good information to know.

No doubt, just not a project I really wanted to do. Really would have preferred to just order one online, but couldn’t source the correct glass anywhere. It seems strange that it was that hard to find really. Large parts of the world use the roped in windshields so glass has to still be available somewhere. But I couldn’t find it...

Finally got all my parts back from being replated. Hopefully this truck starts going back together quickly........

 

[Arickvan]

This is kind of lame, but I hate the glued in windshield trim and have always wanted to try the roped in gasket on one of our 2nd gen trucks. The FW471 aftermarket glass did not fit using the roped in gasket. 5/16” needed to be trimmed from the bottom edge and from one side. Fits nice...

dude

what gasket did you use? and did you just glass cutter and heat for that cut on the glass?

i actually need a new windshield and that looks really nice

 

[OCD]

dude

what gasket did you use? and did you just glass cutter and heat for that cut on the glass?

i actually need a new windshield and that looks really nice

Having never cut glass before, we watched every video we could find. We ultimately grabbed a couple of used / damaged practice windshields from a body shop and gave it a try before cutting the toy windshield. Wasn’t that tough really. Used the smaller of the 2 oil filled glass cutters we got on amazon. I like the smaller one better for curves, but they cut about the same. The real trick that no one shared with us was that after you cut the outside surface first, make sure that the cut line fractures all the way down to the laminate layer by aggressively tapping on it before attempting to flip it over and cut the inside surface. Be certain it’s fractured all the way down. After both surfaces were fractured down to the laminate layer, we used a small torch to warm the area just enough to get a razor in there and cut the safety laminate. Last steps were to use a 90 degree air grinder with some 2” 80 grit discs to smooth out the edges. Used scuff pad discs for the final edge prep to make it look nice. Very pleased with the final result. Actually gonna cut the glass from our grey 85 soon and do the same. The gasket can be found online. Mine came from Japan and was under $100 shipped, but took about a month to arrive...

 

[Arickvan]

Having never cut glass before, we watched every video we could find. We ultimately grabbed a couple of used / damaged practice windshields from a body shop and gave it a try before cutting the toy windshield. Wasn’t that tough really. Used the smaller of the 2 oil filled glass cutters we got on amazon. I like the smaller one better for curves, but they cut about the same. The real trick that no one shared with us was that after you cut the outside surface first, make sure that the cut line fractures all the way down to the laminate layer by aggressively tapping on it before attempting to flip it over and cut the inside surface. Be certain it’s fractured all the way down. After both surfaces were fractured down to the laminate layer, we used a small torch to warm the area just enough to get a razor in there and cut the safety laminate. Last steps were to use a 90 degree air grinder with some 2” 80 grit discs to smooth out the edges. Used scuff pad discs for the final edge prep to make it look nice. Very pleased with the final result. Actually gonna cut the glass from our grey 85 soon and do the same. The gasket can be found online. Mine came from Japan and was under $100 shipped, but took about a month to arrive...

very nice

im actually a commercial glazier, and thats not an easy cut to make!

sounds like you free handed the cut too, ill have to skip out on coffee that day when i try it

 

[OCD]

very nice

im actually a commercial glazier, and thats not an easy cut to make!

sounds like you free handed the cut too, ill have to skip out on coffee that day when i try it

Well...I’m no glass guy, so when we bought the windshield, we actually bought 2 just in case. First one worked out perfect so we didn’t need the 2nd, but your statement got me wondering if it was just dumb luck, so I cut the second just to see if I could. Went smooth. It’s yours for the cost of the glass if you want it. It’s got one small spot where I touched it with the scuff pad on accident, but it’ll polish out. You’d have to pick it up in SJ though, I’m not packaging it and doubt a shipping label stuck right on the glass is gonna work out well.....

 

[OCD]

I was convinced it was all nuts and bolts from this point forward, but every time I turn around we’re making more parts for this thing....

 

[Arickvan]

Well...I’m no glass guy, so when we bought the windshield, we actually bought 2 just in case. First one worked out perfect so we didn’t need the 2nd, but your statement got me wondering if it was just dumb luck, so I cut the second just to see if I could. Went smooth. It’s yours for the cost of the glass if you want it. It’s got one small spot where I touched it with the scuff pad on accident, but it’ll polish out. You’d have to pick it up in SJ though, I’m not packaging it and doubt a shipping label stuck right on the glass is gonna work out well.....

thats tempting.... i just had a new windshield put into it last week

let me think about it for a little bit, i really do like how yours looks.... hmmmmm.......


also with youre level of detail and what not on everything you do, i figured it wasnt a fluke

 

[OCD]

Just testing to see if I’ve learned to load pics correctly...

It worked!!! Should have chosen a less depressing pic. Was a long drive home with that in the rear view mirror....

 

[Hodgiemoto]

Ugh that sucks... been there done that. twiced...

 

[OCD]

Finally got the cage / body mounts back and installed. Also sold the Wedge Engineering seat brackets and made some lower profile mounts. Gained almost 2”...

 

[OCD]

Bed and fenders are not moving along quickly...

Had to remove the IFS floor titties and make some flat plates. Was rubbing against the bottom of my seat...

 

[OCD]

NRG website says compatible with 87-94, so I thought what could possibly be different on the early (84-86) 2nd gen column? They must be wrong. Nope. The spline and taper is a perfect fit, but the horn contact ring pin doesn’t line up and neither does the blinker return to center detents. Oops!

Being a trail truck we don’t care much about the blinkers returning to center, but we definitely use the horn now and then. Got a couple ideas on how we can modify the setup, but it’s just another item on the list. Might just run the old fixed Momo hub to get it back together and modify the NRG quick disconnect hub later. But it’s definitely easier getting in and out without that steering wheel in the way...

 

[OCD]

Rare NOS find...

 

[4RunnerKid]

i used a Honda shoe horn connector to get my horn working with the NRG wheel/disconnect on my 93, might be an option for you

 

[OCD]

Appreciate the suggestion, but I was left without adult supervision the other night and things escalated quickly! Stock column cover and whatnot all goes back on, just gonna have some stubby switches. Will post completed pics once new switches arrive...

Strange that you had issue with a 93, the website showed 87-94 compatibility. They must be off a bit on their info...

 

[OCD]

Haven’t touched this project for a bit, work has kept me real busy lately and then the holidays and all. Still got a couple parts not back from paint, but finally getting around to making the remaining small stuff...

Before paint we cut the tunnel for an R151F trans using a template we made from the floor pan of the sacrificial 86 turbo. Just made the temporary W series adaptor plate this afternoon to keep it respectable. Will make the R series plate later when the trans actually gets swapped. Someday....

 

[OCD]

Also cleaned up & anodized the back window frame. Found a weather strip that’s close enough and actually worked out nice for the sliding windows.

Unbeaded Rubber Channel 96" | Restoration Parts | Steele Rubber Products

U-shaped weatherstripping channel. Made with an electrostatic flocked rubber that has flexibility and reduces friction to secure and let glass or other material slide inside the channel.

www.steelerubber.com