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UnfrozenCaveman said:
I can't be the only one who thought...
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Shiiit, those wouldnt be in my office. Theyd have been gone before I made it across the yard from the kitchen.
 
east_beast said:
At least Biden has somewhat slow rolled the escalation on Ukraine and did go through with Trump's agreed upon Afghanistan pullout. If Kamala was POTUS, then I think the establishment gets a 100% blank check. We're still in Afghanistan and Ukraine already has F-16s and long range missiles. Biden doesn't deserve much credit but I'll give him a small amount of credit where small amount of credit is due.
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Did you forget that Biden didn’t follow through with the AFG withdrawal, missed the pullout date. Didn’t even come close to the agreed upon terms. And they he pulled out at zero dark thirty without telling most pf our AFG allies.

I can almost guarantee Trump would have not done anything to push the ruian war like Biden did. When Ukraine and Russia were trying to come to an agreement before this shit broke out they both said the Biden needs to shut the fuck up.

Damn you’re a democrat parrot.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
Did you forget that Biden didn’t follow through with the AFG withdrawal, missed the pullout date. Didn’t even come close to the agreed upon terms. And they he pulled out at zero dark thirty without telling most pf our AFG allies.

I can almost guarantee Trump would have not done anything to push the ruian war like Biden did. When Ukraine and Russia were trying to come to an agreement before this shit broke out they both said the Biden needs to shut the fuck up.

Damn you’re a democrat parrot.
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I can't stand either of our major political parties. Please notice I was specifically talking about if Kamala was POTUS in that post. Stop being too triggered to comprehend what you're reading.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
You honestly believe Kamala would be a name had they not installed the potato?
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I honestly think they wanted Kamala and she just flat out face planted because one of the few things Americans across political spectrums and various demographics can agree on is that they can't fucking stand Kamala Harris.
 
The withdrawal from Afghanistan would have been a huge mess regardless of who was in power at the time. But I do believe it would have been less chaotic under Trump... And the Taliban would have been very careful not to embarrass him, as they would have paid for those very dearly.

Of course, had this happened under Trump, the media would still be talking about it.
 
Mikel said:
The withdrawal from Afghanistan would have been a huge mess regardless of who was in power at the time. But I do believe it would have been less chaotic under Trump... And the Taliban would have been very careful not to embarrass him, as they would have paid for those very dearly.

Of course, had this happened under Trump, the media would still be talking about it.
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Impeached for a 4th time, if so
 
east_beast said:
At least Biden has somewhat slow rolled the escalation on Ukraine and did go through with Trump's agreed upon Afghanistan pullout. If Kamala was POTUS, then I think the establishment gets a 100% blank check. We're still in Afghanistan and Ukraine already has F-16s and long range missiles. Biden doesn't deserve much credit but I'll give him a small amount of credit where small amount of credit is due.
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Thats funny. Biden is the only reason Russia invaded Ukraine. So why are you giving him credit for slow rolling it?
 
east_beast said:
I can't stand either of our major political parties. Please notice I was specifically talking about if Kamala was POTUS in that post. Stop being too triggered to comprehend what you're reading.
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well your post I quoted opened and closed with praise for Biden with a touch on knee pads in the middle. If you were specifically talking about Kamala then did you fuck up an edit or something? :homer:
 
Thefishguy77 said:
well your post I quoted opened and closed with praise for Biden with a touch on knee pads in the middle. If you were specifically talking about Kamala then did you fuck up an edit or something? :homer:
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I realize it's probably tough to follow a conversation with a room temperature IQ and all, but if you were following the actual conversation in the thread it was pretty clear. You just scroll through scanning for something to get triggered by.

It's funny how similar both the left and right wingers are in basic mentality. They just have different triggers. :laughing:
 

Hur Transcript Refutes Biden's Claim on Bringing Up Son's Death​


President Joe Biden appears to have lied to the American people when he rebuked special counsel Robert Hur for asking about his son's death, according to the transcript of the Biden interviews released Tuesday.

The transcript exposes the fact Hur never asked Biden about the timing of his son's death, contradicting the president's indignant public objections to that supposed line of questioning.

The transcript was released just before Hur's House Judiciary public testimony Tuesday.

Former President Donald Trump noted the Beau controversy is covering for what remains a significant "Biden documents hoax" in that the sitting president was found to have retained classified documents from when he was a senator and a vice president.

"Big day in Congress for the Biden Documents Hoax," Trump wrote in a Truth Social post. "He had many times more documents, including classified documents, than I, or any other president, had. He had them all over the place, with zero supervision or security."

Trump himself continues to maintain protection of prosecution for willful retention of classified documents comes from the President Records Act precedent.

"He does not come under the Presidential Records Act, I do," Trump continued. "He had many docs in Chinatown, and they were moved all over the place, and heavily used.

"My boxes were moved by GSA, were secure, most carried clothing, shoes, sporting equipment, kitchen 'stuff,' newspapers, pictures, magazines, awards, etc. The DOJ gave Biden, and virtually every other person and president, a free pass.

"Me, I'm still fighting!!! MAGA."

Hur himself said in his opening statement he was planning not to charge Biden and needed to provide a reason, saying that is the reason he called out Biden's inability to remember basic facts.

"The need to show my work was especially strong here," Hur wrote in his opening statement. "The attorney general had appointed me to investigate the actions of the attorney general's boss, the sitting president of the United States. I knew that for my decision to be credible, I could not simply announce that I recommended no criminal charges and leave it at that. I needed to explain why."

Hur cautioned he would not discuss investigative steps or veer from the contents of the report. He said "the evidence and the president himself put his memory squarely at issue."

In the report, Hur said that it could be difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt Biden intended to keep the documents, which is the standard for conviction in a criminal case. In part, he argued, jurors could be swayed that Biden's age made him seem forgetful, and there was the possibility for "innocent explanations" for the mishandling of any records.

"Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory," Hur wrote in his report.



Hur defending his reasoning for making that the scape goat for his decision to not recommend prosecution.

"What I wrote is what I believe the evidence shows, and what I expect jurors would perceive and believe," Hur added in his opening statement. "I did not sanitize my explanation. Nor did I disparage the president unfairly."

While Biden fumbled some details in his interview, the full transcript could raise questions about Hur's depiction of the 81-year-old president as having "significant limitations" on his memory.

Both the hearing and the transcript were meant to clear up lingering questions about Hur's report on the discovery of some classified records at Biden's home and former Washington private office. But there was no guarantee they would alter preconceived notions about the president or the Trump appointee who investigated him, particularly in a hard-fought election year.

The Associated Press reviewed a transcript of the Biden interviews, which were being turned over to Congress by the Justice Department on Tuesday just hours before Hur's House Judiciary Committee testimony.

Hur appeared set to be the rare witness likely to be vilified all around — by Republicans angry over his decision not to charge the president, and by Democrats for his unflattering commentary about Biden.

Republicans were likely to dig further into Hur's assessment of the president's age and memory — a major attack line as they seek to unseat Biden come November. Democrats will try to paint Hur, whom Trump appointed a U.S. attorney, as a political partisan out to help his party win a presidential election.

Hur's report cited evidence Biden willfully held on to highly classified information and shared it with a ghostwriter, based on audio of the conversations between the two men in which Biden said he had just come across some classified documents at his home.

In the interviews, Biden said he did not recall the exchange, or that he had actually discovered any documents. He said if he had discussed anything questionable with the ghostwriter, it was in referring to a 20-page sensitive memo he had written to then-President Barack Obama in 2009 arguing against surging troops in Afghanistan that he wanted to ensure didn't make it into publication.

Hur devoted much of his report to explaining why he did not believe the evidence against Biden met the standard for criminal charges, partly based on the hours of interviews with the president.

In his interviews, Biden repeatedly told prosecutors he did not know how classified documents ended up at his home and former Penn Biden Center office in Washington.

"I have no idea," he said.

Biden first sat down with Hur during a time of crisis, one day after the devastating Hamas attack on Israel on Oct. 7.

He entered the first day of the interview having just gotten off the phone with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, part of a series of calls meant to prevent the attack from spiraling into a wider regional confrontation. At multiple points, when Hur suggested a pause, Biden encouraged prosecutors to keep going, saying, "I'll go all night if we get this done."

Biden said that he left it to his staff to safeguard classified information that was presented to him, often leaving papers on his desk in heaps for aides to sort through and secure.

"I never asked anybody," Biden said. He noted that much of his staff had worked with him for years, to the point where they didn't need direction from him. "It just – it just got done. I don't know. I can't remember who."

Confusion over the timing of the death of Biden's adult son Beau — who died May 30, 2015 — was highlighted by Hur in his report as an example of the president's memory lapses. But the transcript showed Hur never asked Biden about his son specifically, as a visibly angry Biden had suggested in comments to reporters the day the report was released.

"How in the hell dare he raise that," Biden said of Hur. "Frankly, when I was asked the question, I thought to myself it wasn't any of their damn business."

Hur asked Biden about where he kept the things that he was "actively working on" while he was living in a rental home in Virginia immediately after leaving the vice presidency in January 2017. And in that context, it was Biden himself who brought up Beau's illness and death as he talked about a book he had published later in 2017 about that painful time.

"What month did Beau die?" Biden mused, adding, "Oh God, May 30th."

A White House lawyer then chimed in with the year, 2015.

"Was it 2015 he died?" Biden asked again.

Biden went on to recount in detail the story contained in his book, "Promise Me, Dad," of how his late son had encouraged him to remain engaged in public life after the Obama administration ended.

The Department of Justice redacted information about other people involved in the case, and the National Security Council and the State Department blacked out some details relating to sensitive intelligence and foreign affairs matters. Before the redactions, the transcript had been classified as top secret and barred from dissemination to foreign nationals.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
 
I’m just here to remind everyone that nothing will happen, no matter what. The only way he will be stopped is being buried 6ft under.

His brother came out and said he’s taken bribe money from China. Nothing will happen. Trump sneezes and we need to throw the law book at him. The life long politician from both sides do not follow the rules we have to follow
 
06h3 said:
I’m just here to remind everyone that nothing will happen, no matter what. The only way he will be stopped is being buried 6ft under.

His brother came out and said he’s taken bribe money from China. Nothing will happen. Trump sneezes and we need to throw the law book at him. The life long politician from both sides do not follow the rules we have to follow
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And the GOP is sleepwalking right into another fake election. At this point they're in on it.
 
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‘I did not exonerate him’: Robert Hur sets Dem rep straight on conclusion of report - The Daily Bo Snerdley

Special counsel Robert Hur corrected Democratic Washington Rep. Pramila Jayapal at a Tuesday hearing when she said his report exonerated President Joe Biden for his handling of classified documents. Hurissued hisreport in February on Biden’s handling of classified documents, deciding not to...
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‘I did not exonerate him’: Robert Hur sets Dem rep straight on conclusion of report​

by Jason Cohen

Special counsel Robert Hur corrected Democratic Washington Rep. Pramila Jayapal at a Tuesday hearing when she said his report exonerated President Joe Biden for his handling of classified documents.

Hur issued his report in February on Biden’s handling of classified documents, deciding not to pursue charges against the president because he would be unlikely to get a conviction. Jayapal asserted Hur’s report exonerated Biden, but the special counsel disputed her statement.

“This lengthy, expensive and independent investigation resulted in a complete exoneration of President Joe Biden,” Jayapal said. “For every document you discussed in your report, you found insufficient evidence that the president violated any laws about possession or retention of classified materials.”

“[Exoneration] is not a word that I used in the report,” Hur asserted. “And that’s not part of my task as a prosecutor.”

Jayapal talked over Hur as he elaborated on his answer. “You exonerated him,” she said.


“I did not exonerate him,” Hur responded. “That word does not appear in the report, congresswoman.”

Hur did not bring charges against Biden, despite finding evidence that he willfully kept classified documents, because the jury might view the president as “a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” according to his report.

Florida Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz pressed Hur during the hearing on why he did not bring charges against Biden as well as his book ghostwriter. Gaetz said Hur should have charged Biden’s ghostwriter for discarding certain evidence when he learned of the special counsel’s appointment.

“Just so everybody knows, the ghostwriter didn’t just delete the recordings as a matter of happenstance,” Gaetz said. “Ghostwriter has recordings of Biden making admissions of crimes, he then learns that you’ve been appointed, he then deletes the information that is the evidence, and you don’t charge him.”
 
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Hur opening statement before Congress defends investigation, treatment of Biden's age · American Wire News

Hur declined to criminally charge Biden arguing that the 81-year-old president could portray himself as an "elderly man with a poor memory."
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Hur opening statement before Congress defends investigation, treatment of Biden’s age​

March 12, 2024 | Tom Tillison

Special Counsel Robert Hur appeared before the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday, answering questions about his investigation into President Biden’s mishandling of classified records.

Hur released his final report in early February, saying the investigation “uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency,” including classified documents about military and foreign policy in Afghanistan and other countries, which Hur said implicated “sensitive intelligence sources and methods.”

Despite his finding that Biden’s actions “present serious risks to national security,” Hur declined to criminally charge Biden arguing that the 81-year-old president could portray himself as an “elderly man with a poor memory,” which would be sympathetic to a jury. The final report described Biden’s memory as “hazy,” “fuzzy,” “faulty,” “poor” and having “significant limitations.” Even more troubling, the report said Biden could not recall when he was vice president or “even within several years when his son Beau died.”

Hur defended his investigation, the final report, and his treatment of Biden’s age in his opening statement.

“My team and I conducted a thorough, independent investigation,” he said. “We identified evidence that the President willfully retained classified materials after the end of his vice presidency when he was a private citizen.”

“This evidence included an audio-recorded conversation during which Mr. Biden told his ghostwriter that he had ‘just found all the classified stuff downstairs,'” Hur continued. “When Mr. Biden said this, he was a private citizen speaking to his ghostwriter in his private rental home in Virginia. We also identified other recorded conversations during which Mr. Biden read classified information aloud to his ghostwriter.”

“We did not, however, identify evidence that rose to the level of proof beyond a reasonable doubt,” Hur explained. “Because the evidence fell short of that standard, I declined to recommend criminal charges against Mr. Biden. The Department’s regulations required me to write a confidential report explaining my decision to the Attorney General. I understood that my explanation about this case had to include rigorous, detailed, and thorough analysis.”

On the issue of Biden’s age and memory, Hur put the onus on the president.

“The evidence and the President himself put his memory squarely at issue,” he said. “We interviewed the President and asked him about his recorded statement, ‘I just found all the classified stuff downstairs.’ He told us that he didn’t remember saying that to his ghostwriter. He also said he didn’t remember finding any classified material in his home after his vice presidency. And he didn’t remember anything about how classified documents about Afghanistan made their way into his garage.”


“My assessment in the report about the relevance of the President’s memory was necessary and accurate and fair,” Hur insisted. “Most importantly, what I wrote is what I believe the evidence shows, and what I expect jurors would perceive and believe. I did not sanitize my explanation. Nor did I disparage the President unfairly.”

Biden pushed back after the report was released and insisted his “memory is fine.” He went so far as to declare that he is the “most qualified person in this country to be president.”


The president also tried to play the role of victim after Hur suggested he did not remember when his son Beau died — this would eventually blow up in his face, though with far less media fanfare than his grieving father schtick.

“How dare he raise that?” Biden said after the report was released. “Frankly, when I was asked a question, I thought to myself, what’s that any of your d— business?”

“Let me tell you something… I swear, since the day he died, every single day… I wear the rosary he got from Our Lady –” he added, stopping mid-sentence because he appeared to forget where the rosary was from.

A week after the report was released, two sources familiar with the investigation said it was Biden who brought up Beau’s death in the interview – not the special counsel, Fox News reported.

The network noted that House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., and House Ways & Means Committee Chairman Jason Smith, R-Mo., have demanded the Justice Department turn over the transcript and any recordings of Hur’s interview with Biden — the GOP leaders are heading up the impeachment inquiry against Biden.
 
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