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The assassination attempt on Trump was coordinated by the deep state and Biden

there are less natural killers out there than the 19 year old white gamer nerd "type" narrative the media wants you to believe.
Pulling a trigger from afar on someone that literally everything in your life is telling you is pure evil is a way lower bar than normal killing. I think just about anyone would be able to pull the trigger in those circumstances, no "natural killer" inclination needed.

I know it isn't an apples to apples comparison but cop training has a pretty good track record of turning normal dumbasses into people who'll kill over the pettiest of petty shit and it applies all the same sorts of psychological tactics that the general public has been exposed to the lite version of over the past several years.
 
Pulling a trigger from afar on someone that literally everything in your life is telling you is pure evil is a way lower bar than normal killing. I think just about anyone would be able to pull the trigger in those circumstances, no "natural killer" inclination needed.

I know it isn't an apples to apples comparison but cop training has a pretty good track record of turning normal dumbasses into people who'll kill over the pettiest of petty shit and it applies all the same sorts of psychological tactics that the general public has been exposed to the lite version of over the past several years.
I'm too old to be a killer, though I do take every opportunity to remind people who dance around the issue that everything we do at work is explicitly to kill people.

New gal says "sure but also to keep people alive"

No,no, lots of people can die on both sides and it's fine :laughing:
 
so, after 12 pages of shit talk. whos getting whacked first? whos doing the whacking? will it be SS or FBI or DHS?

BTW, where haas Joe been since he backed out?
 
so, after 12 pages of shit talk. whos getting whacked first? whos doing the whacking? will it be SS or FBI or DHS?

BTW, where haas Joe been since he backed out?

on vacation. nursing his stroke recovery
 
Pulling a trigger from afar on someone that literally everything in your life is telling you is pure evil is a way lower bar than normal killing. I think just about anyone would be able to pull the trigger in those circumstances, no "natural killer" inclination needed.

I know it isn't an apples to apples comparison but cop training has a pretty good track record of turning normal dumbasses into people who'll kill over the pettiest of petty shit and it applies all the same sorts of psychological tactics that the general public has been exposed to the lite version of over the past several years.

its not comparable, as you said. they have to kill and die in a matter of seconds.

but i agree, training can get them there, but no evidence the Crooks kid was trained at all

Yearick though.. he was trained
 
so, after 12 pages of shit talk. whos getting whacked first? whos doing the whacking? will it be SS or FBI or DHS?

BTW, where haas Joe been since he backed out?

WATCH: Secret Service Agents Shove Civilians Out of the Way As Joe and Jill Continue Endless Vacation​


By Bob Hoge | 7:06 PM on August 26, 2024
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Do you remember learning in high school how one of the reasons we rebelled against the English monarchy was because we were freedom-minded and didn’t believe in “kings” and “monarchs” who inherited their power instead of earning it? And how we believed that a leader should be a person of the people and not some distant autocrat who rules on a golden throne from afar?


However, if you’re the Incredibly Shrinking President Joe Biden, who seems to be on permanent vacation at the taxpayer’s expense, these rules do not apply to you. Get out of the way, plebes! Watch as the Secret Service—whose reputation has deservedly taken a nosedive this summer—shoves regular Americans aside so Jill can go purchase another dress that looks like an ugly carpet:


Out of the roadway! MOVE! NOW!
Ever since Joe Biden quit his presidential reelection campaign and handed the reins over to his unaccomplished vice president, Kamala Harris, he has virtually disappeared from the world stage even as major conflicts continue to rage in the Middle East and Ukraine. One wonders, while Joe languishes at the beach, who exactly is running the country?





The president has been real "busy":

President Biden declared ending the war in Gaza to be his top goal to achieve before the end of his term, yet he has gone from one vacation to another as the Middle East becomes increasingly volatile. Biden announced his withdrawal from the 2024 presidential race and endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris on Sunday, July 21. Since then, he has gone on two vacations and has spent every weekend either at his vacation home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, or the presidential retreat at Camp David, according to White House pool reports dating back to July 21.


We’re in a dangerous time, when we don’t seem to have a functioning commander-in-chief. Our enemies are fully aware that our compromised, permanently off-duty president is not up to the job. Meanwhile, it’s fun to poke fun at Kamala Harris’ endless cackling and laugh-out-loud word salads, but on a more somber note, she has consistently proven that she is not ready for the position. No foreign leader is going to take her seriously; Russian strongman Vladimir Putin and Chinese dictator Xi Jinping are probably laughing in their boots at the thought of any confrontation with her. As clear-eyed, cold-hearted realists, they are more than aware that simply repeating “joy” and “happiness” does not a foreign policy make.

The Democrats, led by their s******ing standard-bearer Nancy Pelosi, have engineered a coup, ousted a sitting president, and installed their preferred candidate. They may be craven and devious, but they either purposefully or by accident forgot to account for one thing: we need a competent leader in the White House during these dangerous times.


And right now, we don’t have one.
 

Victims of failed Trump assassination want answers and accountability, threaten legal action​

August 28, 2024 | Terresa Monroe-Hamilton | Print Article
The two men who were gravely wounded during the attempt on former President Trump’s life are speaking through their attorney, demanding answers after their lives were forever changed that day.
Pittsburgh attorney Joseph Feldman spoke with Fox News Digital, representing James Copenhaver, 74, and David Dutch, 57. Both were shot twice at the Butler, Pennsylvania rally and sustained life-altering injuries on July 13. Corey Comperatore, a retired 50-year-old firefighter, was killed while shielding his wife and daughters.
“I think we’re going to get to the bottom of that here at some point, whether that’s through the [congressional] task force, through these investigations, or if we do have to file a lawsuit. We’ll definitely get answers through that process,” Feldman told Fox News Digital in an interview on Monday.
The two men are avoiding the spotlight while spending time at home with their families as they are “on the path to recovery.” They both have had “some setbacks” according to their attorney.

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“Both victims have lingering questions about how gunman Thomas Crooks was able to get onto the roof of the nearby one-story, American Glass Research (AGR) building and shoot at Trump about 150 yards from the candidate’s podium. The building was located near the rally but technically not within the official perimeter,” Fox News reported.

“[W]e’re the United States of America,” Feldman commented. “We pump tons of money into security resources in this country, especially dealing with the federal government. And you go to a rally to provide political support for a politician … the security is provided by the federal government, and it fails.”
Currently, there are far more questions than answers concerning the attempted assassination. The men are determined to find out how all of this played out, who dropped the ball, and why.
“Copenhaver and Dutch are also wondering how Crooks was able to park his vehicle and fly a drone about 200 yards from where the former president would be speaking between about 3:50 p.m. and 4 p.m. that day. FBI Director Christopher Wray testified during a July 17 congressional hearing that Crooks had been at the rally site for about 70 minutes on the morning of the assassination attempt,” Fox News continued.



“How is the airspace not shut down? Or why did the federal government not have their own drones up there to monitor the scene, make sure they know exactly who’s coming in and out days in advance?” their attorney, who served in the Army for seven years and spent approximately one year in Afghanistan, asked.
The men want to know exactly who Crooks was. They are also demanding answers about “the contents of his phone, or how he had access to these firearms or a firearm, or how he had access to explosive devices.”

“The House task force wants to hear from tipsters and whistleblowers to determine how 20-year-old Crooks was able to climb HVAC equipment and piping to get to the roof of the AGR building and hide there until he began shooting around 6:11 p.m.,” Fox News noted.
“The FBI said during a July press call that Crooks had a DPMS AR-15-style gun with a collapsible stock when he entered the area of the Butler Farm Show fairgrounds, where Trump’s campaign rally took place,” the media outlet recounted.


The timeline for Crooks’ actions is also suspect.
“The Trump campaign announced the Butler rally July 3. Three days later, on July 6, Crooks signed up for the event. That same day, he researched how far Lee Harvey Oswald was from President Kennedy when Oswald assassinated him in 1963. On July 7, Crooks traveled to the rally site and spent approximately 20 minutes in the area, according to the FBI,” Fox News elaborated.
“Crooks began taking shooting lessons in 2023, and he made 25 online gun purchases using an alias in the spring of 2023,” the outlet noted. “Crooks’ father legally purchased the AR-15-style rifle Crooks used at the rally, and he legally transferred it to his son. Crooks also legally purchased 50 rounds of ammunition from a local gun store the morning of the rally.”
Crooks was seen by numerous people walking the grounds, checking out the building, and on the roof that day. He was even caught on video before he started shooting.
“How do you get on a roof in an open field with people yelling that somebody’s getting on a roof, with snipers … adjacent to them? … And you don’t see him until he pops off his first round? That’s their job. That’s why they’re there. Secret Service isn’t there to listen to Donald Trump’s speech or his stats on immigration,” Feldman railed.


“Authorities first reported seeing a suspicious person near the rally site at least an hour before Crooks began shooting, according to Congress and the FBI. Local law enforcement notified command about the suspicious person and received confirmation that the Secret Service was aware of his presence,” Fox News wrote.
Eight rounds were found on the roof where Crooks dug in to take out the former president according to the FBI.
It is now known that Crooks had multiple encrypted messaging accounts overseas according to Fox News. Many believe that the shooter appeared to have been “groomed” for his final task.
No motive is known yet. It’s also not known if he had co-conspirators but the FBI is aggressively playing down that theory. And the agency doesn’t seem anxious to really dig into investigating Crooks which begs the question why.
 

FBI Says Thomas Crooks Searched for Biden Events in Move to Broaden Motive Despite Trump Being Shot​


By Bonchie | 2:41 PM on August 28, 2024
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While no official motive has been released for the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, the fact that the former president of the United States was millimeters away from dying from a gunshot wound to the head has always provided a pretty decent idea.


On Wednesday, though, the FBI sought to broaden any possible motive, reporting that Thomas Crooks, who was killed by a counter-sniper team after opening fire, also searched for rallies involving Joe Biden. That tracks with previous testimony offered by FBI Dir. Christopher Wray.


The gunman in the assassination attempt of former President Donald Trump searched online for events of both Trump and President Joe Biden and saw the Pennsylvania campaign rally where he opened fire last month as a “target of opportunity,” a senior FBI official said Wednesday.
Thomas Matthew Crooks, who shot at Trump from a nearby roof before being killed by a Secret Service countersniper, did extensive research for an attack before the shooting and had looked at any number of events or targets, including the current and former president, said Kevin Rojek, the special agent in charge of the FBI’s Pittsburgh field office.
The insinuation is clear: Crooks was not politically motivated (at least in a partisan manner) and only shot Trump because his rally represented the best opportunity to accomplish an assassination of a major figure.

Is that true? I suppose that depends on how much you trust the FBI, which has gone out of its way in the past to downplay politically motivated attacks against Republicans. Recall that the congressional baseball shooting, which nearly killed Rep. Steve Scalise, was labeled a "suicide by cop" despite it being immediately known that the shooter was a Bernie Sanders supporter with a list of Republicans to kill. It wasn't until years later that the record was corrected.



SEE: More Evidence the FBI Is Completely Compromised Arises


The FBI also still insists there is no known motive for the 2017 Las Vegas shooting that took the lives of 60 people attending a country music concert. Another more recent example would be the Waukesha massacre, which has no official stated motive despite the killer being an adherent to far-left black liberation theology and having expressed a hatred for white people.

In other words, it is perfectly understandable if people see this latest report from the FBI and question it. Clearly, the government wants to put out the impression that the would-be assassination of Donald Trump was sheer chance, motivated by nothing but the opportunity existing. Color me extremely skeptical given what transpired and the FBI's history.
 
"How is this not the biggest story in America right now"?

Same reason the media ignored the COVID crimes against humanity, ignored the FBI rigging our elections, ignored the scandal to hide Biden's cognitive decline, ignored Fauci's flip flops and ignored Capitol police waving protesters inside the Capitol building.
 
"How is this not the biggest story in America right now"?

Same reason the media ignored the COVID crimes against humanity, ignored the FBI rigging our elections, ignored the scandal to hide Biden's cognitive decline, ignored Fauci's flip flops and ignored Capitol police waving protesters inside the Capitol building.
They are America's biggest threat....and should be treated so.
 
I was an LEO for 30 years and our departments chief firearms instructor for 20 years. 80% of cops do the very bare minimum to qualify. I would offer them free ammo to practice on their own but very few took me up on it. Minimum qualification was 100 points out of 150, most scored around 100 - 110. 20% would have to try numerous times to meet the minimum 100.
Don't think for a second that the average cop is a good shot, they're not!
 
Well yeah, but we're talking about someone who supposedly trained more than the average cop.
DHS and FBI are cop agencies. They do not train professional infantry combatants. They train police thugs. And the training results reflect it.

Sure they might be better than average but the average is in the toilet so better isn't much. Other than special teams cop agencies really have no need to train people to shoot at shit beyond "across the street" distance because they don't need to when your entire engagement doctrine is built around ensuring you never get into anything resembling a fair fight and if you do by accident you high tail it out of there and come back with 100:1 manpower and material advantage.
 
DHS and FBI are cop agencies. They do not train professional infantry combatants. They train police thugs. And the training results reflect it.

Sure they might be better than average but the average is in the toilet so better isn't much. Other than special teams cop agencies really have no need to train people to shoot at shit beyond "across the street" distance because they don't need to when your entire engagement doctrine is built around ensuring you never get into anything resembling a fair fight and if you do by accident you high tail it out of there and come back with 100:1 manpower and material advantage.
to be fair, I also have no interest in being in a fair fight.
 
The thing about training and rifles. I have a rifle and a good scope. I can hit a quarter size target at a 100 yards every time. (Well almost every time) I handed my rifle to my older brother who has never shot a rifle before and he hit that quarter also. I handed it to my younger brother and he also hit it many times. He has a bit more shooting experience, but none of us really know shit about shooting long distance. None of us have any training and none of us have ever even gone to a professional range. I have shot at 200 yards a few times and I wasn’t much worse. (Maybe grouping the size of an apple) I’m not bragging. The fact is, im a hack when it comes to shooting.

Those guys shooting people at 800-1000 yards are good. I don’t know shit about correcting for wind and much about bullet drop. My point is, at that range, (130 yards) anybody could make that shot with a good rifle and scope. It does appear “devine intervention” or luck made Trump turn his head.
 
Exactly, and to be clear I want to have 99 other guys on my side. Not be the 1 guy fighting 100 guys.
to be fair, I also have no interest in being in a fair fight.


You're both missing the point. Literally every professional infantry combatant is at least trained to die slowly enough to provide a useful amount of delaying action to an equal or superior force. Cops won't even engage until there's basically no risk to them, see for example Uvalde. They're simply not trained for any sort of activity that involves any real chance of taking casualties. And the firearms training reflects that.
 
The thing about training and rifles. I have a rifle and a good scope. I can hit a quarter size target at a 100 yards every time. (Well almost every time) I handed my rifle to my older brother who has never shot a rifle before and he hit that quarter also. I handed it to my younger brother and he also hit it many times. He has a bit more shooting experience, but none of us really know shit about shooting long distance. None of us have any training and none of us have ever even gone to a professional range. I have shot at 200 yards a few times and I wasn’t much worse. (Maybe grouping the size of an apple) I’m not bragging. The fact is, im a hack when it comes to shooting.

Those guys shooting people at 800-1000 yards are good. I don’t know shit about correcting for wind and much about bullet drop. My point is, at that range, (130 yards) anybody could make that shot with a good rifle and scope. It does appear “devine intervention” or luck made Trump turn his head.

Dude just whiffed. It's that simple.


I'm assuming he was never a hunter or had never been hunting. That feeling you get when you're about to pull the trigger on another living creature can be pretty intense, especially the very first time. It's actually not uncommon to miss that first time. Now consider it was another human, especially a very high-profile human, at a high-profile event, and adding that he'd already been busted by the local cops, his nerves must have been in extreme overdrive. Finally, add that he was not known for being a good shot, using sub-par equipment, he simply rushed the shot and missed. And only just barely.


Give that gun to just about anyone I know, at that distance, shooting at a target that size, and they're hitting 10 out of 10 shots.
 
I was an LEO for 30 years and our departments chief firearms instructor for 20 years. 80% of cops do the very bare minimum to qualify. I would offer them free ammo to practice on their own but very few took me up on it. Minimum qualification was 100 points out of 150, most scored around 100 - 110. 20% would have to try numerous times to meet the minimum 100.
Don't think for a second that the average cop is a good shot, they're not!
Sounds about right. Our gun club has 2 competitions a month during the summer. A fair number of local LEOs come in to show us how it's done. Even our DA showed up. None came back. They were abysmal. And gun safety? Forgedabowdit!
 
"How is this not the biggest story in America right now"?

Same reason the media ignored the COVID crimes against humanity, ignored the FBI rigging our elections, ignored the scandal to hide Biden's cognitive decline, ignored Fauci's flip flops and ignored Capitol police waving protesters inside the Capitol building.
The first shots of the revolution should be aimed at media and big tech.
 
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