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You do know that both GM and Ford pull down bigger subsidies than Tesla right?
you know I don't agree with any of those either?
Fair enough, it's all government money though, and every auto maker is playing the game of how to squeeze more from the feds and states. I say if tesla gets ahead, more power to em since they're all playing dirty pool.
well last quarter it was nearly a half a billion dollars in carbon credits they sold.The actual $$ amount GM is FORCED t pay Tesla is what ? What is it ? Because I don't think it amounts to much, and really doesn't have any relevance except as emotional virtual signaling to some guidable people.
Have to brwak off and get the As salt gun to kill this fucking fly that keeps landing here.
FWIW I do not support the carbon credit bullshit, it's bullshit I agree with you on that.
www.businessinsider.com
As they say- don't hate the player, hate the game.
why not both?
Their cars aren't terrible, and they're forcing other auto manufacturers to innovate. How many battery only vehicles existed before tesla came along? How many big ass touch screens in cars? How many remote charging stations?
not terrible?
I know one single TESLA owner, and he has never had any maintenance issue with his, a Model S and it's about 3 years old, I think.
Pish, my volkswagen started leaking water into the cab the year after I got it new because the drains on the sunroof could clog up in with debris in the summer time. They still dont' have a fix or a recall for that. I end up flushing them out with hot water and then hitting them with the air compressor every fall.
I would not.Manche, I dont think you are saying - I dont think you wouldn't do exactly what TESLA is doing if you were in their position. Stick it to GM and any other bloated dinosaur and their UAW. The goobernment did this, not TESLA. In the theory at least, the government is doing the will of the voters that placed it in power.
He does fit the profile. Self made and very well off. He could have other status symbol autos but he chose the TESLA over say a Mercedes or BMW or some other shit. It's new and exciting and he can afford to take the petrol vehicle if he drives out of state which is almost never,
He very well may be, but I'd argue that he's still forcing the entire industry to put money into EV R&D as a result. That may not have ever been his intent, but I'm glad it's happening.
or maybe, just like that tweet I linked from sept of this year, people buying teslas are simply accepting the flaws because they don't want to wait for a replacement, or they know that the replacement may simply be worse.
www.cnn.com
quotes straight from the man himself.
electrek.co
How is that different than any other safety recall that other auto mfgs have done in the past?it's not like they recently recalled a bunch of cars because someone at the factory couldn't tighten suspension bolts.
Tesla recalls about 2,700 Model 3 and Model Y vehicles over a suspension issue
Tesla confirmed to the NHTSA that it is recalling 2,791 2020-2021 Model Y and 2019-2021 Model 3 vehicles over a...
So you're saying that they're just like any other manufacturer?
I'm not a tesla fanboi, just not a hipster hater who chooses to bag on them just because they have vocal fabois. I think I pretty well outlined in my previous posts why I felt there were different than other auto manufacturers and worthy of some praise.
I'm not bagging on them because I hate hipsters, I'm pointing out that they're not a great company making a great product and the reason it sells is 100% because of tweets on social media.
You're being very silly. Great/not great is just your opinion. Nobody ever said they were the greatest car company ever or that they build the best car in the history of building things that roll around. Well, maybe a few fanboiz did, but why are you lending those idiots any relevancy? Stop it. People are buying the cars because they are great cars with fully electric drive trains that are quick as all get out and don't look like a fucking Nissan Leaf. If Nissan Leafs were quick and didn't look like Nissan Leafs, people would be buying the hell out of those, too. Seems like Tesla is about the only company that got the memo stating that people don't want ugly fucking cars.
Nope, it's not, but people are fucking stupid. If I buy a Telsa (was looking at buying a model 3, bought a BRZ instead), guess what little add on I won't be paying extra for..? Yeah, that one. When cars start out-driving me, it'll be because I'm 90 and half dead.
they're good cars. If I buy a good car and you think it's some sort of status symbol, that's entirely on you.
