billybob_81067
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Look at you gettin all fancy n' shit! When I do body work I just smash it as close as I can to the original shape so that the bondo is minimal!
Ain't nobody got time for planishing! 
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Shop and Tools: Tips and Tricks
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Ain't nobody got time for planishing! [memphis]
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The less bondo the better! I spent about 50 mins on it in total. Free tool and $30 worth of sand paper was worth the outcomeLook at you gettin all fancy n' shit! When I do body work I just smash it as close as I can to the original shape so that the bondo is minimal!
WaterH
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A friend of mine told me this trick. So I posted it in my Vulcan thread and apparently it’s common knowledge to heavy equipment guys. If you want to take apart some hydraulic fittings or other items and don’t want to drain large hydro reservoirs, put a shop vac on the resivour.
It works really good. So good it has me wondering if you could do the same thing with fuel lines.. Sure would be nice when under a truck to stop fuel running down your arms changing a fuel filter. I think diesel would be fine. Not sure if gas would some how ignite.
It works really good. So good it has me wondering if you could do the same thing with fuel lines.. Sure would be nice when under a truck to stop fuel running down your arms changing a fuel filter. I think diesel would be fine. Not sure if gas would some how ignite.
Firstram
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Fuel vapors and sparking motor brushes can put on a great show, you should video this for our entertainment
billybob_81067
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I wouldn't try it with gasoline just because I've seen those vacuum motors arcing and sparking away while they run. They make a pneumatic vacuum which I use for basically everything.A friend of mine told me this trick. So I posted it in my Vulcan thread and apparently it’s common knowledge to heavy equipment guys. If you want to take apart some hydraulic fittings or other items and don’t want to drain large hydro reservoirs, put a shop vac on the resivour.
It works really good. So good it has me wondering if you could do the same thing with fuel lines.. Sure would be nice when under a truck to stop fuel running down your arms changing a fuel filter. I think diesel would be fine. Not sure if gas would some how ignite.
Basically just like this one.
I'd think it would be okay with a full tank, I wouldn't do an empty tank. Works great for changing Temp sensors too. Post a video of you doing it for future reference though.
Source: We put a bit of gas in the bottom of a shopvac to get rid of wasp nests. They hate the noise and run right into death.
PAToyota
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Many years ago, a friend's neighbor burnt his house down that way. They were trading their car in. A day or two before doing so, the wife was out and saw the tank was low so decided to fill up. Husband was furious when he saw it - no way was he trading in a car with a full tank of gas! Mind you, this was when gas was like $1.00 a gallon or so. He decided to use the shop vac to vacuum out the tank while in the garage...
Massive fireball quickly consumed the car and the garage and the whole house was engaged by the time the fire trucks arrived. Literally the whole place burnt to the ground. Fortunate, the guy, wife, and two kids escaped without injury.
My friend's father was the Fire Chief. He used the story as a lesson for years.
I'd also note that more recently one of the guys at the Shop was filling the waste oil heaters. He couldn't see how full the tank was on one, so he used his cigarette lighter to look in the one hole while filling at another hole. The resulting fireball melted his glasses; burnt his hair, eyebrows, and beard; left his face red for several days, and left a sooty black stain up the wall and across the ceiling. Oil may not ignite so easily, but fumes certainly do - not to mention that there may be other things in waste oil.
I'd definitely only use the vacuum trick outside, well away from everything else, have a fire extinguisher on hand, and approach the operation with caution.
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CarterKraft
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The only problem with this is as the air boils off in the tank and if the tank level is high enough it WILL pull oil vapor out the tank.A friend of mine told me this trick. So I posted it in my Vulcan thread and apparently it’s common knowledge to heavy equipment guys. If you want to take apart some hydraulic fittings or other items and don’t want to drain large hydro reservoirs, put a shop vac on the resivour.
It works really good. So good it has me wondering if you could do the same thing with fuel lines.. Sure would be nice when under a truck to stop fuel running down your arms changing a fuel filter. I think diesel would be fine. Not sure if gas would some how ignite.
I use a air powered version TD260M and it will pull oil out of the tank and spray it all over the fucking place while you are under the machine oblivious to the mayhem...
CarterKraft
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A fun story from the old timers is back before bling service trucks (our company did not buy air compressors, if you wanted a air compressor on your truck you had to buy it yourself) the guys would tee in to the brake booster vacuum hose and leave it out the front of the grill. Then they could connect a 1/2" hose to it and connect that to the machine via a 2" pipe cap with a hose barb attached to pull the vaccum on the hyd tanks.
Well you can probably guess what happens if the oil level was too high
Well you can probably guess what happens if the oil level was too high
SomeGuyFromOlympia
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Yam like other have saidA friend of mine told me this trick. So I posted it in my Vulcan thread and apparently it’s common knowledge to heavy equipment guys. If you want to take apart some hydraulic fittings or other items and don’t want to drain large hydro reservoirs, put a shop vac on the resivour.
It works really good. So good it has me wondering if you could do the same thing with fuel lines.. Sure would be nice when under a truck to stop fuel running down your arms changing a fuel filter. I think diesel would be fine. Not sure if gas would some how ignite.
Ol Indian Ron was working on his cluster fuck boat and ran a vacuum on his gas tank. I felt the concussion in my shop 3500 feet away though the woods and he would later discover some of his tools in a parking lit 1000' away
Like the blessed retarded people out there, natural selection didn't get him
(He has also managed to sink his boat 3x at the dock that I am aware of)
PAToyota
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MigGunslinger
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I wouldn’t even call that a conflagration.
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Friend and his Dad burned a garage and the attached house down using a shop vac to empty a fuel tank.
Was a 5.7L diesel Olds they were swapping to gas so was using the shop vac to get the diesel out of the tank.
Hydraulic oil is fairly flammable too, damn near the same as diesel when tossing on a fire.
Vac pump, like for A/C service is safer.
Was a 5.7L diesel Olds they were swapping to gas so was using the shop vac to get the diesel out of the tank.
Hydraulic oil is fairly flammable too, damn near the same as diesel when tossing on a fire.
Vac pump, like for A/C service is safer.
PAToyota
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that is a fire, not an explosion
they are not the same
Despite semantics, one can see how that would get out of hand quickly with a shop vac in a garage.
welndmn
Well Done Man
We always used that trick to replace leaking oil drain plug gaskets as well.A friend of mine told me this trick. So I posted it in my Vulcan thread and apparently it’s common knowledge to heavy equipment guys. If you want to take apart some hydraulic fittings or other items and don’t want to drain large hydro reservoirs, put a shop vac on the resivour.
It works really good. So good it has me wondering if you could do the same thing with fuel lines.. Sure would be nice when under a truck to stop fuel running down your arms changing a fuel filter. I think diesel would be fine. Not sure if gas would some how ignite.
WaterH
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Diesel fumes are not flammable below 140 degrees. I don’t understand how your friend achieved that. You are in AK, so maybe they had the wood stove turned up. lol.
ANGRYBLACK
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I may have to clean a small steel diesel tank to patch a rotted spot. I plan to soak it in 10 bottles of dollar store dawn and a touch of water and agitate it for a few days with water. My guy with a tank says there will be no tank left if he dips it.
I will purge it with nitrogen or C25 when i weld it. Not sure why anyone would want to put more than 12VDC around flammables. Fuck that noise.
WaterH
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I think you will be fine. I welded a hydro tank and I didn’t wash it at all. I just purged it with argon. (Only thing I had)
When I was younger I weld a gas tank by running a vacuum on blower for a few minutes before welding. I kept it running the entire time. I stuck the blower end in the fill tube and the fumes get blown out. Do this for a few minutes and you can’t even smell gas. But new fumes can get generated inside the tank, so that’s why you keep running the vacuum. Did this multiple times with no issue. While this worked, I much prefer the inert gas route.
AKnate
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Fast moving air can create static.
ANGRYBLACK
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Should be good. The inert gas will help the welds.
CarterKraft
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Atomized fuel behaves much differently than standing diesel.
Hell dust is flammable when in suspension.
Brad
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Who pissed off the cow? There obviously wasn’t a sunroof nearbyThis guy I know used his Hercules 20v brushless vacuum to vacuum sand and cow shit out of generator gas tank. I didn't blow up
Customer's generator, we tried not to tackle this project.
This guy I know used his Hercules 20v brushless vacuum to vacuum sand and cow shit out of generator gas tank. I didn't blow up
The lack of brushes makes it much less likely to spark. I have a shitty old worn out shop vac that puts on a light show from the motor when it's first spinning up.
That's why I was going off of.The lack of brushes makes it much less likely to spark. I have a shitty old worn out shop vac that puts on a light show from the motor when it's first spinning up.
Firstram
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This seems like a fantastic alternate to Evaporust
dnsfailure
WHAT GEAR ARE YOU IN?
I've been using citric acid, and sometimes citric acid with baking soda to remove rust for a while now, surprised this isn't more common knowledge.