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Seattle to homless camp in Cal Anderson Park

or start fires... like what happened down near big sur.

I have lost count of the grass and structure fires I have seen right where there are homeless camps. Urban areas like freeway onramps and under bridges or in crevices behind commercial buildings.

One of the only good things about the city I live in is the large rivers that converge here and the parks and bike path system around them. The bushes along side the river are filled with homeless, they constantly start brush fires and they Shit in the American river so much that it was infected with E-coli. https://www.kcra.com/article/swim-a...f-e-coli-found-along-american-river/32705254#
 
You can't have the first one without the second one. If you are okay with mentally ill and drug addicts... well, they fuck up everything around them, they do crime, they create filth. One IS the other.

You're right, and I know you're right, I guess I was just trying to say I hate the game, not the player. I once heard a proposal to provide garbage cans and regular collection services to homeless camps, my inner liberal thought that sounded good for a few seconds until I realized they'd likely never bother to actually put things into the garbage cans.
 
I'll start with you. You think its cheap letting the problem get bigger? You think its cheap to keep cleaning up after them? You think legalizing drugs giving them clothes and tarps is a solution? You think it's right to hive resources to people who don't give a shit about themselves or anyone else? You're an idiot. Cuz thats what were doing right now.

Yes they will O.D. or freeze to death if they're miserable. Yes they will get help if they're worth saving.

Keep them moving and find out. It works. Research it.

I never said that they should be able to setup camps in a park. And no it's not cheap either but your solution of making them moving them doesn't work either.

It's been the cities policy here for many years and they are still around.

For for example the city had a ban on pan handling. Local PD said sorry we can't enforce it, it drains our resources as we can't respond fast enough to catch them, and we don't have money for a dedicated unit.
So the city dropped the ban
Then public got outraged cause they are annoyed by pan handling
So city reinstalled ban
Police still can't enforce it, it still happens, but it's banned so now it's solved?

Hard to OD on booze. A few wind up in the creek or freeze but not that many.

So recently they set up a camp down by the creek. The city kicked them out so they went over to Federal land right along a residential area. Of which they have nearly burned down, which the city had to respond to but can't collect for services provided. Also can't enforce anything as they are on federal land, the locals residents are ecstatic about it. :rolleyes: And they still wander around town and are still in the same old spots.

But yet the problem of the homeless has not gone any where, the bucket just gets kicked around the yard. So it doesn't seem to work here.
 
You're right, and I know you're right, I guess I was just trying to say I hate the game, not the player. I once heard a proposal to provide garbage cans and regular collection services to homeless camps, my inner liberal thought that sounded good for a few seconds until I realized they'd likely never bother to actually put things into the garbage cans.

I agree with you. I hate the whole infringing on people doing what they want... but, we all live together in a sense and if people are shitting (actually) in my yard or in front of people and being drunken, druggy, dangerous and not being cool, they need to be put in an environment where they keep us safe and them safe, but man, that is a slippery slope.

UNLESS you actually do volunteer work and you see the range of people, some just need a little help during a bad time, some are crazy, dangerous and crazy, some are drug addicts (self medicating) and some people are just advantage takers.

we need to sort them and figure out who needs to go where. It'd be cheaper, better for them and us, but it would ruffle the feathers of those who think insanity is noble.
 
100% fucked.

"will you stop or do we need to make you stop?"

- for what?

"jaywalking"

- when? where?

"this is a controlled intersection by the liquor store"

- when? show me?

"will you stop? for jaywalking and resisting arrest"

- arrest for what?

"jaywalking and resisting"

WTF? :confused: jaywalking is an arrest able offence? and then while taking him to the ground now he's got your gun? that was terribly handled by both of those cops. but yet again, jaywalking and other BS "crimes" (such as mask mandates *ahem*) once again fall hardest on the lowest of society.
 
One square block... covered/partially covered depending on climate!!! Cots, Public bathroom and showers provided... drains in the middle of the facility... every Tuesday, pack up your belongings and vacate for pressure wash and trash removal!!! This will make it so it can’t be permanent housing !!! We’ll call this “the shelter”
if you get picked up for any homeless related incident, directly to the shelter you go.... all services handled there... cops just drop off and let the staff handle the rest!!!
With the tens of millions a year I know is spent in Seattle, you could build and staff this thing and have $$$ leftover!!!!
Cliffs:
make a place for them to go!!!!
Enforce the law...
you can’t camp here. You must go to the shelter or we will take you!!!
 
One square block... covered/partially covered depending on climate!!! Cots, Public bathroom and showers provided... drains in the middle of the facility... every Tuesday, pack up your belongings and vacate for pressure wash and trash removal!!! This will make it so it can’t be permanent housing !!! We’ll call this “the shelter”
if you get picked up for any homeless related incident, directly to the shelter you go.... all services handled there... cops just drop off and let the staff handle the rest!!!
With the tens of millions a year I know is spent in Seattle, you could build and staff this thing and have $$$ leftover!!!!
Cliffs:
make a place for them to go!!!!
Enforce the law...
you can’t camp here. You must go to the shelter or we will take you!!!

sounds like any of the dozens of shelters seattle already has that the homeless refuse to go to because "it's unsafe there" or "i want to be outside" or "fuck 'em" :flipoff2:
 
sounds like any of the dozens of shelters seattle already has that the homeless refuse to go to because "it's unsafe there" or "i want to be outside" or "fuck 'em" :flipoff2:

Yea..... shut all that dog and pony show down and get serious..... one happy homeless utopia!!! The private shelters can help out by bringing meals or other needs, if they still wanna participate!!!
I’m wasting time typing this.... never gonna happen.... billions have been spent in Seattle alone and there are billions more to be had!!!!!
 
WTF? :confused: jaywalking is an arrest able offence? and then while taking him to the ground now he's got your gun? that was terribly handled by both of those cops. but yet again, jaywalking and other BS "crimes" (such as mask mandates *ahem*) once again fall hardest on the lowest of society.

Sadly this reminds me of my little brother. He used to be a successful business owner with a great family. I don't know what snapped in him but every time he gets out of jail he commits some petty crime with the purpose of being put back in jail.

The whole extended family is done propping his ass up for the past 15 years. It sucks he is going to be institutionalized for the rest of his life with two little girls at home missing him.

This is also in the Rhode Island system which strives to rehabilitate their inmates. He gives no fucks and just wants 3 hots and a cot. Fucking sad.
 
Fuck those zombies. They're a criminal threat to be chased off or locked up. If they choose to behave like civilized humans, they won't be a threat to normal people, and they won't be harassed. Living in a tent and shitting on the sidewalk are not the same thing.

Here's my usual cut/paste for the FB whiners. I need to update it to reflect the two bums fucking on a picnic table beside the busy road 100 feet from my house last summer. "Hey Dad, what are they doing?" "Wrestling, honey."

Sounds like one hell of a party.:eek:
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...ideo-shows/vi-BB1dQjjx?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds

here is the wrong way to handle things.

Orange County Sherriff attempt to arrest a homeless man for jaywalking, end up shooting and killing the guy ~8:30 mark

I went to high school with and played ball with a guy who became a Deputy. He retired with 30 years in and 3 months later he sucked a shotgun to death.

I found out, through another friend, that he left a note, where he essentially said, 'I woke up today and realized the man I've been did not deserve to live. It doesn't mean I didn't do my best. It doesn't mean the people I had to deal with were the lowest pieces of shit on earth, but that doesn't matter.'

I wish someone could have helped him.

What I don't get in all of these shootings is why everyone feels time pressure. I wish we could allow our LEOs time for things to die down and decompress.
 
Mental Heath is the issue. Liberals closed the asylums, getting help disqualifies you from a lot of jobs and prescription drugs are handed out like candy.

sometimes a padded room is what’s needed.
 
It was -40 here for a good week or ten days and none of them froze to death, had a few OD though. It got me to thinking about it and they seem to be a hardy bunch living the way they do so I suppose they could do it my way.

Build a work camp out in the middle of nowhere 100 miles away from anything. I am talking old school fence with razor wire, towers on the corners and stuff. They get a bunk and 3 hots with a shower access to addictions / mental help etc. but they gotta work for it. A place like that should have enough work to do to keep them busy for 8 hrs a day easy. I've never seen one that was truly incapable of doing some sort of work so there should be something for everyone. it would be quite possible to even perhaps generate some revenue to offset the costs. Don't wanna work? Don't get to eat simple as that, confined to quarters.

6 months later if you're a good boy you get out don't come back or it's a year, 3rd time it's forever.

This would clean up the cities, consolidate the services they need all in one place and give them a reason not to continue down the path they are walking currently.
 
It was -40 here for a good week or ten days and none of them froze to death, had a few OD though. It got me to thinking about it and they seem to be a hardy bunch living the way they do so I suppose they could do it my way.

Build a work camp out in the middle of nowhere 100 miles away from anything. I am talking old school fence with razor wire, towers on the corners and stuff. They get a bunk and 3 hots with a shower access to addictions / mental help etc. but they gotta work for it. A place like that should have enough work to do to keep them busy for 8 hrs a day easy. I've never seen one that was truly incapable of doing some sort of work so there should be something for everyone. it would be quite possible to even perhaps generate some revenue to offset the costs. Don't wanna work? Don't get to eat simple as that, confined to quarters.

6 months later if you're a good boy you get out don't come back or it's a year, 3rd time it's forever.

This would clean up the cities, consolidate the services they need all in one place and give them a reason not to continue down the path they are walking currently.

What city are you in/by??
Most of them are equivalent to a 3-5 year old, can’t even shit and piss in the right spot!!! The shelter is going to have to be equivalent to a daycare (with security).... your not going to get any work outa these folks!!!!
 
What city are you in/by??
Most of them are equivalent to a 3-5 year old, can’t even shit and piss in the right spot!!! The shelter is going to have to be equivalent to a daycare (with security).... your not going to get any work outa these folks!!!!

Prince George. I would say that even a 5 year old can do some chores, hell mine did. Hunger can be a hell of a motivator.:laughing:
 
Prince George. I would say that even a 5 year old can do some chores, hell mine did. Hunger can be a hell of a motivator.:laughing:

Don’t you guys have the injection sites up there???
How’s that working out???
They keep trying to set em up down here in Seattle, to no avail, yet!!!!
 
Don’t you guys have the injection sites up there???
How’s that working out???
They keep trying to set em up down here in Seattle, to no avail, yet!!!!

Yea we do, they call them a needle exchange but there is no need to exchange:confused: Funny how a junkie can be provided a nice clean warm safe place with a nurse on call to shoot up but if I want to have a cig at the bar I gotta go outside and be at least 20 feet from any door, window or air intake no matter the weather.

I wonder what would happen if I went to the injection site and took up a room for a couple of cigs.:laughing:
 
So they will rule everyone who was rioting all summer was displaced and is owed $10k.
Biden/congress will "bail out" Seattle with fed tax money and Boom! redistribution of wealth AND they get to pay off all their pre-election activists on our dime.
 
I have lost count of the grass and structure fires I have seen right where there are homeless camps. Urban areas like freeway onramps and under bridges or in crevices behind commercial buildings.

One of the only good things about the city I live in is the large rivers that converge here and the parks and bike path system around them. The bushes along side the river are filled with homeless, they constantly start brush fires and they Shit in the American river so much that it was infected with E-coli. https://www.kcra.com/article/swim-a...f-e-coli-found-along-american-river/32705254#

I moved from Sacramento in 1994 and used the American River Bike Trail all the time, would usually ride up from Watt Ave to Folsom, but sometimes I'd go down to the Sac River and back. Even in 1994 you could see the homeless population was growing down there, fucking miserable filthy bastards.

Fires are a big problem in homeless camps. You get in a beef with a fellow bum, you light his shit on fire, it's their way.
 
It was -40 here for a good week or ten days and none of them froze to death, had a few OD though. It got me to thinking about it and they seem to be a hardy bunch living the way they do so I suppose they could do it my way.

Build a work camp out in the middle of nowhere 100 miles away from anything. I am talking old school fence with razor wire, towers on the corners and stuff. They get a bunk and 3 hots with a shower access to addictions / mental help etc. but they gotta work for it. A place like that should have enough work to do to keep them busy for 8 hrs a day easy. I've never seen one that was truly incapable of doing some sort of work so there should be something for everyone. it would be quite possible to even perhaps generate some revenue to offset the costs. Don't wanna work? Don't get to eat simple as that, confined to quarters.

6 months later if you're a good boy you get out don't come back or it's a year, 3rd time it's forever.

This would clean up the cities, consolidate the services they need all in one place and give them a reason not to continue down the path they are walking currently.

sounds like prison with a work program :laughing:

which, oddly, is on the very short list of things that has a chance of making an impact on the chronic homeless.
 
https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/202...rs-used-to-farm-at-russian-jack-springs-park/

There’s a golf course there now, but Anchorage prisoners used to farm at Russian Jack Springs Park


Immediately before World War II, the area we call Russian Jack Springs Park was comprised of the Peter Toloff and Nicholas Darlopaulos homesteads. Today, they are primarily remembered for allowing “Russian Jack” Jacob Marunenko to live on their land. In short, “Russian Jack” was a Russian immigrant who abandoned his family in Russia, bootlegged and killed a man in Anchorage, and became the area’s namesake.

In 1943, the U.S. Army seized the land for possible expansion and compensated the former homesteaders $4,300, roughly $64,000 in 2020. In 1948, the city of Anchorage bought the land for $16,000, roughly $172,000 in 2020. At the time, the primary appeal of the land was its spring, a potential water source for the city. The spring proved insufficient, but the land remained reserved for future use.

The city’s first significant use of the land occurred in 1951 with the construction of a prison farm meant to alleviate overcrowding in the city jail. The prison farm stood in stark contrast to the second significant use of the land, a day camp founded in 1952 by local Girl Scouts pioneer, Marjory Bailey.

The prison farm initially consisted of three Quonset huts that collectively housed an average of 40 inmates. The site grew to include several wooden buildings, a dog pound, and a warehouse for long-term city storage.

Prisoners convicted of misdemeanors, primarily alcohol-related, were eligible for the farm. Anchorage judges during the 1950s began responding to charges of public drunkenness with 30- to 90-day farm sentences instead of the previously typical day or two jail stint. During what seems to have been an especially well-lubricated 1953 Memorial Day weekend, Anchorage police arrested 53 for drunkenness and vagrancy, requiring a special court session to separate those who could be sentenced to the farm.


The prisoners’ work included growing produce, cutting firewood and serving as labor throughout the city. The 26-acre farm became self-sufficient, productive enough that its crops were a crucial complement to the budget of the cash-strapped city prison. For September 1960, the prison farm was the city’s department of the month. In 1963, the prison provided 93,000 meals. However, the prison was only budgeted $18,000 ($150,000 in 2020) for meals, towels, medicine, first aid supplies, utensils, fertilizer, canning supplies, and coveralls. Ignoring the other costs, that’s 19 cents, about $1.60 in 2020, per meal. Every inmate meal included some of the potatoes, peas, cabbage, beets, and carrots grown at the farm.


Many Anchorage residents viewed the prison farm as a vacation resort for drunks. Longtime reporter Mike Dunham recalled:


“We even had people come into the police station, some of these people that were homeless and down and out and so forth, sayin’ ‘I wanna go to the farm.' They’d come in and ask. And I can remember one case, this guy came in, we all knew him. And it was getting towards fall, it was getting a little cold outside, and he says ‘I wanna go to the farm,’ and the officer told him, ‘Well, y’know, you haven’t done anything wrong.’ So he picked up the cash register off the counter, slammed it onto the floor, and he says, 'Now can I go to the farm?’ [laughs] Well, he did! He went to the farm.”

The good old days...
 
sounds like prison with a work program :laughing:

which, oddly, is on the very short list of things that has a chance of making an impact on the chronic homeless.

I think bring back the Civilian Conservation Corp. Yeah it's a gov work program but they did good work, they got paid and some of that went to their debts or family, etc.
 
I think bring back the Civilian Conservation Corp. Yeah it's a gov work program but they did good work, they got paid and some of that went to their debts or family, etc.

that's what ashske was doing, county program for kids who don't things well, cleaning up brush and debris along canals and such.
 
Let me state that Parks aren't homeless shelters. What pisses me off is that the parks get cleaned up/refurbished that's paid for by hard-working taxpayers so citizens can use the walking/biking paths, comfort station, swimming in the pool & generally use open space for picnics, Frisbee, etc...

Fuck any liberal and the politician(s) who seem so concerned about letting the homeless move in & take parks away from families & children. Thanks for the waste of money to battle this b.s. that will prolly go on for decades.

Bring Back Bum Fights!!!!!!

Hey ArTi54N, here's a worthwhile filming gig. Think of the loot selling comedy gold!!!

Have a nice death
:beer:
 
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