Quick attach on tractor loader

ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Might want to put a tube or two between the two sides. Something to keep everything in sync. After a while it’s gonna suck to hook that stuff up.
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the cylinders are plumbed together. That with a flat surface of the back of the bucket, it will be fine. Just connect like normal
It connects easier than you would think
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
the cylinders are plumbed together. That with a flat surface of the back of the bucket, it will be fine. Just connect like normal
It connects easier than you would think
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They will twist out of sync over time. If you use it to move any type of dirt. It’s easier to install some tubes now beforehand. Just look at any skid steer mount. That have 2 cylinders plumbed together just like your tractor. They also have 1/4” plate trussed hooking both sides together.

You’ll see when they twist even 3/8” from each other it turns into a **** show to get stuff hooked up. This has been my experience with **** like this. I’ve been around the block.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
They will twist out of sync over time. If you use it to move any type of dirt. It’s easier to install some tubes now beforehand. Just look at any skid steer mount. That have 2 cylinders plumbed together just like your tractor. They also have 1/4” plate trussed hooking both sides together.

You’ll see when they twist even 3/8” from each other it turns into a **** show to get stuff hooked up. This has been my experience with **** like this. I’ve been around the block.
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This is how I think I'm going to mount mine. Would that bar going across be enough?
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Even on the large Deere tractors with skid steer couplers the only thing keeping both sides in time is a 1/4" pin going thru a bar that both sides pivot on. That way if it does get knocked out of time it's an easy fix.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
They will twist out of sync over time. If you use it to move any type of dirt. It’s easier to install some tubes now beforehand. Just look at any skid steer mount. That have 2 cylinders plumbed together just like your tractor. They also have 1/4” plate trussed hooking both sides together.

You’ll see when they twist even 3/8” from each other it turns into a **** show to get stuff hooked up. This has been my experience with **** like this. I’ve been around the block.
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You have been around the block? As in own that machinery around the block?
Because that it the block I am speaking from

They are plumbed together, yup they will flop out of time without the bucket attached if you decide to tilt, but as soon as you push into your bucket, .......the push right back into alignment and connect. I do it every time that I switch out my buckets, and it slows me down exactly zero during the day.

and I am not sure how you get your twist out of sync over time moving dirt calculations, on the John Deeres it is not true,
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
You have been around the block? As in own that machinery around the block?
Because that it the block I am speaking from

They are plumbed together, yup they will flop out of time without the bucket attached if you decide to tilt, but as soon as you push into your bucket, .......the push right back into alignment and connect. I do it every time that I switch out my buckets, and it slows me down exactly zero during the day.

and I am not sure how you get your twist out of sync over time moving dirt calculations, on the John Deeres it is not true,
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Lol evidently tractor **** is really half-assed. Probably why I don’t own any. I would have that thing destroyed in a few days. Fwiw I am really sorry I hurt your feelers.

If they are allow to move independently from each other then I guess you don’t want a stiff member between them.

We abuse the heck out of our skidsteers. That coupling would never fly in my operation.

Good luck I’m just passing my experiences on to the next guy, take it or leave it.
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
You have been around the block? As in own that machinery around the block?
Because that it the block I am speaking from

They are plumbed together, yup they will flop out of time without the bucket attached if you decide to tilt, but as soon as you push into your bucket, .......the push right back into alignment and connect. I do it every time that I switch out my buckets, and it slows me down exactly zero during the day.

and I am not sure how you get your twist out of sync over time moving dirt calculations, on the John Deeres it is not true,
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You do realize the his block has a **** ton of loaders and **** right?

He literally said "I suggest" in his first post and you got all butt hurt. Calm down Francis, you always fly off the handle.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Lol evidently tractor **** is really half-assed. Probably why I don’t own any. I would have that thing destroyed in a few days. Fwiw I am really sorry I hurt your feelers.

If they are allow to move independently from each other then I guess you don’t want a stiff member between them.

We abuse the heck out of our skidsteers. That coupling would never fly in my operation.

Good luck I’m just passing my experiences on to the next guy, take it or leave it.
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spalin how making a statement comes across as having hurt feelers please:laughing:

I just have one, that is how I know. is it the best way? is the other way the best way? what is the best way? as long as the end user is getting the use that they want out of it is all that really matters. They are happy who else needs to worry about it

I really don't care, weld the **** out of it.:beer:
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
spalin how making a statement comes across as having hurt feelers please:laughing:

I just have one, that is how I know. is it the best way? is the other way the best way? what is the best way? as long as the end user is getting the use that they want out of it is all that really matters. They are happy who else needs to worry about it

I really don't care, weld the **** out of it.:beer:
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If the two sides did manage to get out of sync, can't you just run them up or down to the stops and sync them back up?
 
bgaidan said:
If the two sides did manage to get out of sync, can't you just run them up or down to the stops and sync them back up?
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the John Deere will get out of sync, you just drive into the bucket like normal. It will all sync back up
....essentially doing just that, running to the stops
 
bgaidan said:
If the two sides did manage to get out of sync, can't you just run them up or down to the stops and sync them back up?
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That's all I've ever done. Just run the cylinders all the way closed and then they're fine. They might get a quarter inch out from eachother by the time you open them enough to get a bucket on but it's never been a problem
 
bgaidan said:
If the two sides did manage to get out of sync, can't you just run them up or down to the stops and sync them back up?
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It all depends on the individual tractor. Some stay synced better than others. Trust me it's MUCH better to have something solid between them. The bucket or any other attachment for small tractors don't weigh enough to really help you get them pushed back. In the event they do get out of sync you can get off the tractor, pull or push one side and the other side will move in the opposite direction, stop when they are equal.
 
dave_dj1 said:
It all depends on the individual tractor. Some stay synced better than others. Trust me it's MUCH better to have something solid between them. The bucket or any other attachment for small tractors don't weigh enough to really help you get them pushed back. In the event they do get out of sync you can get off the tractor, pull or push one side and the other side will move in the opposite direction, stop when they are equal.
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or stay on the tractor and drive into your bucket to attach it ......same thing
 
dave_dj1 said:
Like I said, small tractor buckets aren't heavy enough, they just slide around, at least in my experience.
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or the cylinders are plumbed together, but I am getting that you are not going to grasp that is what i am trying to get at

My points of just facts that that one particular piece of equipment will be overruled by your opinion

please disregard everything that I have said on the subject, everything won't work and whatever dave and his not-strong-bucket-Dave-not-approve argument that he is willing to die the the hill for
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Lol evidently tractor **** is really half-assed. Probably why I don’t own any. I would have that thing destroyed in a few days. Fwiw I am really sorry I hurt your feelers.

If they are allow to move independently from each other then I guess you don’t want a stiff member between them.

We abuse the heck out of our skidsteers. That coupling would never fly in my operation.

Good luck I’m just passing my experiences on to the next guy, take it or leave it.
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I mostly gave up responding to the small tractor threads. Some how they are in a different world than real equipment :flipoff2:
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
or the cylinders are plumbed together, but I am getting that you are not going to grasp that is what i am trying to get at

My points of just facts that that one particular piece of equipment will be overruled by your opinion

please disregard everything that I have said on the subject, everything won't work and whatever dave and his not-strong-bucket-Dave-not-approve argument that he is willing to die the the hill for
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Okay. I'm willing to listen to your side of the discussion.

What are the pros of not putting a steel tubing to connect both sides?
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
or the cylinders are plumbed together, but I am getting that you are not going to grasp that is what i am trying to get at

My points of just facts that that one particular piece of equipment will be overruled by your opinion

please disregard everything that I have said on the subject, everything won't work and whatever dave and his not-strong-bucket-Dave-not-approve argument that he is willing to die the the hill for
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see post #46:flipoff2:
 
ChiScouter said:
Oh no now you are going to make the ******s head explode
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You! Be nice.

I do agree that my knee-jerk reaction is that the two sides should be connected, and the crossbar is useful for other things (like hitch receiver...),

I've learned thousands of things over the years, especially from this site, and usually when I learn something, it's something unexpected.

I've been considering when it could be advantageous to not have the two sides connected, and there are certainly some possibilities. With an attachment designed for "unlocked" sides you could allow for floating tilt like how a truck snowplow is allowed to float to accomodate angles in the road. You could even add some valves (hand or electric) which would allow fixing one side and powering the other, which could allow for a powered tilting blade like on a dozer...

Thinking about ideas is always healthy.
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
You have been around the block? As in own that machinery around the block?
Because that it the block I am speaking from

They are plumbed together, yup they will flop out of time without the bucket attached if you decide to tilt, but as soon as you push into your bucket, .......the push right back into alignment and connect. I do it every time that I switch out my buckets, and it slows me down exactly zero during the day.

and I am not sure how you get your twist out of sync over time moving dirt calculations, on the John Deeres it is not true,
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I had a 30hp john deere i posted here for sale 6is months ago. Anyhow it had a home brew quick release that was not tied togeather... When the person came to buy it we went to switch out the forks for the bucket and it was a total bitch because when he finally got it apart the 2 sides were all sprung seperatly from eachother. Just getting it to work on the bucket was a chore with rachet straps. Anyhow the solution was we welded a piece of 1-1/4 dom between the 2 halves with the bucket installed and it was smooth sailing after that.
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I saw puctures of your father in laws tractor bucket :flipoff2:

I know little tractors probably better then most yet know very little about big stuff... except that the skills of operating a little one dont transfer over.
YotaAtieToo said:
I mostly gave up responding to the small tractor threads. Some how they are in a different world than real equipment :flipoff2:
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ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Might want to put a tube or two between the two sides. Something to keep everything in sync. After a while it’s gonna suck to hook that stuff up.
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There is a cross bar to keep them in sync. Painted black to blend in, haha

Not my tractor, I would have used different tubing, but works fine.
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