Quick attach on tractor loader

ANGELO

ANGELO

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I just picked up this Ford 3430. The bucket needs help and I want to get Forks for it. Any reason why I can just weld a skid steer quick attach to the Ford quick attach? Would be alot easier then trying to find attachments for this one.
And any reason why I couldn't run a skid steer bucket if I did go with the quick attach?
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Linky:

(there's measurements and angles and stuff on page 3)


Homemade Attachments for Forklifts Skidsteers and Other Equipment

I ****ed up and ordered the wrong plate. They ****ed up and sent me the wrong plate. Instead of an unfinished plate they sent me a painted receiver. :laughing: Good news is I won't have any problem selling this one if I can find someone local with a dingo.
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Looks like an easy conversion, The hardest part of a normal conversion it is cutting the brackets off the old bucket and you have that step taken care of. I used the cheap kit off of of ebay. They work ok, but if I were do it again I would go for a heavier built option
 
Cheap ones: ebay quick attach Only complaint is they are a little flexy, Bucket will occasionally will pop off when back dragging. Could be beefed up but still thinner than the other option...

better weld on style.. Better option..
 
Juztyn00 said:
Looks like an easy conversion, The hardest part of a normal conversion it is cutting the brackets off the old bucket and you have that step taken care of. I used the cheap kit off of of ebay. They work ok, but if I were do it again I would go for a heavier built option
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I think those cheap ones would work fine, as I can weld them all the way around on the ford attach. When it's welded on, it will look like that more expensive one with the support going across.
Is there any reason why a skid steer bucket won't work?
 
ANGELO said:
Is there any reason why a skid steer bucket won't work?
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No, there is no reason (that I can think of).

There is plenty of skid steers that are 2 or 3 times stronger than your tractor. Most things today use the skid steer quick attach, including lots of tractors.

You'll have a million different types of attachments available to you.

There is absolutely no downsides to what you're planning. Don't overthink it.

Get welding!


Edit: and after eyeballing your bucket, I'd say the existing angle matches the skid-steer Q/A angle on my machine pretty close.
 
ANGELO said:
I think those cheap ones would work fine, as I can weld them all the way around on the ford attach. When it's welded on, it will look like that more expensive one with the support going across.
Is there any reason why a skid steer bucket won't work?
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Skid steer bucket will likely be heavier, Depends on the tractor and what you find. I put one on my previous kubota and it made a noticeable decrease in capacity. They also tend to run 5-800 for when you can find a used one. Personally I'd get a attachment plate and some steel to fix the rust and go to town on your current bucket beefing it up, adding some chain hooks and whatnot.
 
Muckin_Slusher said:
BigGayDan just did exactly this.

Most important thing IMO is getting the angle correct for the geometry of your front cylinder.

Edit: ....and apparently, we need a tractor/skidsteer/forklift forum:laughing:
It's tractor week at irate!

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Quoted to page Austin for a good idea for a new sub. Seriously, tons of tractor and heavy equipment talk around here lately with all us ex-Kommiefornians fleeing to rural America and tooling up to manage ur new properties.
 
I'm in the middle of doing mine. Taking a little longer because me ****ty Woods loader uses a single tilt cylinder in the center and not one on either arm like a typical loader. I need to make cross supports to tie the mid cylinder to the quick attach plates. It'd be a lot easier with a normal loader.

Everything I'm using is basically the cheapest ones on ebay. I think the loader adapter plates were around $100 and the implement side plate was around $80.

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92 Green YJ said:
Quoted to page Austin for a good idea for a new sub. Seriously, tons of tractor and heavy equipment talk around here lately with all us ex-Kommiefornians fleeing to rural America and tooling up to manage ur new properties.
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Because you were not self-sufficient before?
 
Here’s my thoughts/ questions…

-Are the fel/ “tractor” buckets universal? It’s been a while since I pulled the bucket off of our Massey, so I honestly cannot tell if what you have is the same.

-There are plenty of options for non-hydro buckets, forks, etc outside of the skid steer realm. Your tractor will most likely not support the hydraulic demands of most skid steer implements, so why bother?
 
Wilson said:
Here’s my thoughts/ questions…

-Are the fel/ “tractor” buckets universal? It’s been a while since I pulled the bucket off of our Massey, so I honestly cannot tell if what you have is the same.

-There are plenty of options for non-hydro buckets, forks, etc outside of the skid steer realm. Your tractor will most likely not support the hydraulic demands of most skid steer implements, so why bother?
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Buckets aren't universal between different tractor brands. Quick attach buckets are. Several have their own proprietary style of quick attach which leaves you stuck using only their attachments.


There's nothing else available for my loader. Only forks I can use are clamp on or bolt on and they suck. Using a skidsteer fork carriage will probably double my capacity because it'll suck the load in about a foot and a half closer to the pins.

I also want to get a grapple and those primarily come with quick attach plates.
 
Wilson said:
-There are plenty of options for non-hydro buckets, forks, etc outside of the skid steer realm. Your tractor will most likely not support the hydraulic demands of most skid steer implements, so why bother?
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'cause you can buy skid steer everything and they're awesome.

See example below (much, much want but not quite enough need).

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I would remove the Ford quick-attach and simply replace it with the SSQA. It should be stupid simple to get the geometry right since you have the Ford to copy. You'll save 80lb and move the load in 3" by doing it that way. Just welding the SSQA to the Ford is kind of hack IMO.

92 Green YJ said:
That bucket is pretty well scrap at this point. Unless you weld some mesh across those giant holes and use it for screening gravel or something anyway.
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Hell of a lot cheaper to just get some flat stock and fix it than to buy a new bucket.
 
92 Green YJ said:
That bucket is pretty well scrap at this point. Unless you weld some mesh across those giant holes and use it for screening gravel or something anyway.
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Lol wtf you talking about. Give me a 1/4” sheet of ar409 plate and I’ll have that bucket good as new in less than a half of a day. It’s sop to put new floors in our loader buckets every 4-5 years.

This is a super easy job especially this bucket no heel plates to work around. These are the projects .045 dual sheild were made for.
 
ANGELO said:
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arse_sidewards said:
I would remove the Ford quick-attach and simply replace it with the SSQA. It should be stupid simple to get the geometry right since you have the Ford to copy. You'll save 80lb and move the load in 3" by doing it that way. Just welding the SSQA to the Ford is kind of hack IMO.


Hell of a lot cheaper to just get some flat stock and fix it than to buy a new bucket.
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I have to disagree. There's no way I could make something any closer there what is is now. I don't see any difference to welding the skid steer plates right to this one, vs making it my self.
 
ANGELO said:
I have to disagree. There's no way I could make something any closer there what is is now. I don't see any difference to welding the skid steer plates right to this one, vs making it my self.
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I think you will have to use a couple pieces of rectangle tube between what you have now and the new SS plates like what is pictured further up in this thread. That would be the easiest but it will be better if you could keep the new SS plates as close to the pivot point as possible.
 
You may want to space out the bottom of the ssqa attachment so that you can get your forks to curl back enough depending on what ss fork carriage you're going to use. When I made forks for my jdqa loader I spaced out the fork carriage at the bottom so I can roll the forks back 30 degrees or so. If I had just made it flat to the jdqa brackets the forks would have only been able to be level when the loader is all the way down and that would have sucked.
 
Wilson said:
Here’s my thoughts/ questions…

-Are the fel/ “tractor” buckets universal? It’s been a while since I pulled the bucket off of our Massey, so I honestly cannot tell if what you have is the same.

-There are plenty of options for non-hydro buckets, forks, etc outside of the skid steer realm. Your tractor will most likely not support the hydraulic demands of most skid steer implements, so why bother?
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Most of the newer compact tractors have gone the skid steer quick attach plate. Even corals baby tractor uses it. You could probably find a random bucket for cheaper, but if you're going to go through the work of fabbing brackets, why not just go with what's common.

The other benifit is renting attachments for a specific project. Forks, skeleton bucket, ect.
 
My dad has I think the next bigger Ford than that. And he just put a generic quick attach on his. He found a used John Deere bucket that was in perfect shape cheap so he just welded the right plate onto the bucket to fit his tractor. Handy as hell.
 
Picked up some forks yesterday. I think I should be able to get enough curl on the forks if I weld the ssqa flat to the Ford brackets. What do you think?

The Ford is quite a bit wider then the ssqa pins. So I'll will have to be changed a bit.
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