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Obesity costing US military

Provience said:
It actually pays better to get put for being fat compared to punching somebody in the face :laughing: I worked with a few guys that intentionally gained weight to get out for being fat
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Yup. Back in the mid 2000's there were a bunch of fatties that failed 3 PRT (physical readiness tests) and got shitcanned with a big fat severance check. I passed my assessments. Where's my big fat check?
 
subybaja said:
When I was a kid, I saw this on TV:

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Wasn't he trying to get kicked out for being mentally ill though? 🤔
 
Mikenike said:
High standards was perhaps poor wording. :lmao::homer:Point still stands though. I bet half this board couldn't even do that.:flipoff2: Also again unlike the army pukes you didnt get 8 weeks to get into shape first. That is day 3 required after you have had nothing but a few brown bag turkey sandwiches for meals. Didnt say it was the seals. Just said it wasn't 0 requirements like he said. Also seems lower than i remember. There was something about a swim in there i was pretty sure and not just treading water. For the record I failed out because I have shitty knees. I technically passed on time:flipoff2:. Not that my fat ass could now probably so.... :laughing:
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8 weeks to get IN SHAPE, not to do a 1.5 mile jog and tread water.:flipoff2:

I remember when I was younger running 2 miles in under 11 minutes, maxing the sit ups (on the old standard) at 94 and hopping up to stretch before the time expired. I never could max the pushups, though... I was a bit too tall and lanky to complete 82 in under 2 minutes.
 
They could just send them to a fat platoon or whatever, nothing but exercise and kale for a month :confused: .
 
DRTDEVL said:
8 weeks to get IN SHAPE, not to do a 1.5 mile jog and tread water.:flipoff2:

I remember when I was younger running 2 miles in under 11 minutes, maxing the sit ups (on the old standard) at 94 and hopping up to stretch before the time expired. I never could max the pushups, though... I was a bit too tall and lanky to complete 82 in under 2 minutes.
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I could max the pushups and situps, but I could barely scrape by on the run time for my age. I HATE to run, even now. I got all kinda shit over a crappy run time.


But if you can meet the PT standards, how much of a roll should weight play?

What if you are maxing the Pushups, sit ups, and run, but are over on the weight, and body mass / tape?
It happens.

Now what? Is it worth losing the money you put into the soldier over it, if they can prove they can still function at the acceptable levels?
 
DRTDEVL said:
Here's a friend's son... Currently on the ABCP (formerly the AWCP) under threat of being kicked out for being too fat.

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I failed a PT one year for having a 37" waist.
 
det107 said:
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This. Straight up meat drippings-
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Sausage gravy to put on biscuits is the sausage drippings + milk n flour (and hot sauce)

I do eat turkey gravy like you’re thinking about once a year at most for thanksgiving. I think green chili is technically spicy gravy, I eat that liquid deliciousness on everything.
 
Yota Up said:
So that is considered general, not honorable and not dishonorable?
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Depends on the branch and if it's the only issue.

It's honorable in the USAF if it's just that.

If it's from a medical issue, then you go through a med board. Then you stay in and if you fail, get admin discharge, or med board does a medical separation or retirement.

This is how it was while I was in, but i got out in 2013, so may not be the same now.
 
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Yota Up said:
So that is considered general, not honorable and not dishonorable?
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A service member who is overweight may receive a General Discharge Under Honorable Conditions (GHC) from the military. This type of discharge may be given if a service member's performance record is satisfactory but they don't meet all of their contract requirements. For example, if a service member is overweight, they may not be fit for duty.
 
Is it really 220# max regardless of height? How do giants Sasquatch’s ever pass those tests? We don’t want 6’-8” 300 pounders getting peoples six?
 
JR4X said:
Is it really 220# max regardless of height? How do giants Sasquatch’s ever pass those tests? We don’t want 6’-8” 300 pounders getting peoples six?
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Not entirely, which is why the article and congress are dumb

If you are over weight, you need to pass body fat. If you are under body fat, weight doesn't matter
 
SanDiegoCJ said:
A service member who is overweight may receive a General Discharge Under Honorable Conditions (GHC) from the military. This type of discharge may be given if a service member's performance record is satisfactory but they don't meet all of their contract requirements. For example, if a service member is overweight, they may not be fit for duty.
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Thanks for the copy/paste of Bing AI, but that does not answer the question.


Thanks Ruger and AKnate for being humans with a real answer.
While I would not expect it to ever result in dishonorable, it's good to hear it doesn't end up general and provides the future benefits associated with an honorable.
 
Yota Up said:
Thanks for the copy/paste of Bing AI, but that does not answer the question.


Thanks Ruger and AKnate for being humans with a real answer.
While I would not expect it to ever result in dishonorable, it's good to hear it doesn't end up general and provides the future benefits associated with an honorable.
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See also, post #2. This thread :flipoff2:
 
grumpy356 said:
I could max the pushups and situps, but I could barely scrape by on the run time for my age. I HATE to run, even now. I got all kinda shit over a crappy run time.


But if you can meet the PT standards, how much of a roll should weight play?

What if you are maxing the Pushups, sit ups, and run, but are over on the weight, and body mass / tape?
It happens.

Now what? Is it worth losing the money you put into the soldier over it, if they can prove they can still function at the acceptable levels?
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Doesn't matter how strong you are, who's gonna drag your 325lb ass off the battlefield when you're hit?
JR4X said:
Is it really 220# max regardless of height? How do giants Sasquatch’s ever pass those tests? We don’t want 6’-8” 300 pounders getting peoples six?
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There is a height/weight chart. Any over weight for height submits to a "tape test" for a crude (and often inaccurate) measure of body fat percentage.
 
Yota Up said:
Thanks for the copy/paste of Bing AI, but that does not answer the question.


Thanks Ruger and AKnate for being humans with a real answer.
While I would not expect it to ever result in dishonorable, it's good to hear it doesn't end up general and provides the future benefits associated with an honorable.
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It did answer the question, you're just too stupid to realize it. You're also wrong on the source, but being wrong is nothing new for you.
 
DRTDEVL said:
Doesn't matter how strong you are, who's gonna drag your 325lb ass off the battlefield when you're hit?

There is a height/weight chart. Any over weight for height submits to a "tape test" for a crude (and often inaccurate) measure of body fat percentage.
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That was ultimately what ended my USAF career.
Screwed my back up and they decided I couldn't carry a 200lb person across a battlefield, therefore I was out.

I argued that MOST people aren't carrying a 200lbs mushy lump of shit. If it's life/death pretty sure im not worried about my back hurting, and WHY THE FUVK AM I EVEN IN A BATTLEFIELD?! I worked in munitions. 99% of that was in a fenced in need clearance to enter "deadly force authorized" area.

A few years back we had an excersize aka war games. I was running the day shift (0700 to 1900) chaff/flare operation. IG team came in and "killed" a few guys and I had some arm and face injuries from a lathe and somehow in a coma and that required getting dragged into a pickup bed and hauled to the gate to meet the amberlamps.
Mind you the only tools we had in that building were screwdrivers, grounding straps and wood sticks to desquib the spent chaff and flare.

Took 4 of the bigger guys of the squadron to carry my maybe 200lb ass (full battle rattle) into the truck bed, not gently either.

Told them to grab a forklift :lmao:.

They haul me to the stupid hospital make believe "mash". The hospital dumbasses sent a like 4.5ft 90lb girl by herself to stretcher me across a busted up old flightline in a stretcher thing with 2 big wheels.
Tipped it over halfway to the tent and really fucked my arm and scraped my face up im bleeding, plus the fake blood the IG poured on me for the fake injury and RUINED my uniform.

The girl saw what she did, and passed out. Lovely... hospital worker scared of blood.

Apparently smashed her face on the corner of the stretcher or something so she's bleeding all over too.

So lying there strapped tight to this thing bleeding all over, it's like -10*. Wondering if ill die from blood loss or freezing 🤣 all for make believe.

Someone heard me swearing up a storm trying to gut the stupid stretcher to get loose and got a ride in the real, real amberlamps along with the hospital chick that i swear was maybe the size of a 12 yr old to the real ER cause that mash place was only for make believe injuries.

Couldn't even make this shit up. Probably gave her the big people just to be asses not thinking it's like a F150 hauling a CAT d10N.

By the time I got out of the ER, got a ride across base to my car, it was almost time for my next shift.. yeah near 12hrs getting "hurt" and then real hurt and sorta fixed. So worked another 12hr in my bloody ass clothes like I was a battle hardened badass :lmao::lmao:
 
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AKnate said:
By the time I got out of the ER, got a ride across base to my car, it was almost time for my next shift.. yeah near 12hrs getting "hurt" and then real hurt and sorta fixed. So worked another 12hr in my bloody ass clothes like I was a battle hardened badass :lmao::lmao:
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Lol’d for real :lmao:
 
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