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Multiple feds injured, one dead in florida

rockota said:
see... now you're just blatantly lying to try and talk yourself out of a corner...

so... answer my question... if someone accuses you of doing something immoral and/or illegal, do you want the same rules applied to yourself that you apply to fellow citizens?
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If I’m arrested for something that there is no evidence of yes, I would hope they would support me.

If I shoot and kill people for investigating me then I deserve zero support. PERIOD.
 
TOMS97ZJ said:
If I’m arrested for something that there is no evidence of yes, I would hope they would support me.

If I shoot and kill people for investigating me then I deserve zero support. PERIOD.
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got it... you're a "rules for me, not for thee" type of person.
 
bgaidan said:
TOMS97ZJ is a child molester. I've see. No evidence to the contrary.
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TOMS97ZJ said:
Explain? If I did what he did I would probably be guilty. How is that different rules?
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but you expect people to stand beside you.... Hypocrisy is thick with you.
 
TOMS97ZJ said:
Did you really not read what I wrote. I said if I did what he did I would probably be guilty and should have zero support. :homer:

Fucking read dude.
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What did "he" do that made him a suspect?

Seriously. You've made all sorts of claims of the suspects guilt of illicit crime, but you have no proof.

Yet... you want your friends/family/etc to stand behind you if there's "no proof" and refuse to extend any of those same considerations to this particular suspect.

Because you've already claimed his guilt.

Once again - what happened to the innocent until proven guilty protections that you only demand for yourself?
 
rockota said:
What did "he" do that made him a suspect?

Seriously. You've made all sorts of claims of the suspects guilt of illicit crime, but you have no proof.



Yet... you want your friends/family/etc to stand behind you if there's "no proof" and refuse to extend any of those same considerations to this particular suspect.

Because you've already claimed his guilt.

Once again - what happened to the innocent until proven guilty protections that you only demand for yourself?
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Ok, I can’t tell if you are serious or just plain stupid.

How would I have evidence? I’m not a .gov official and have zero relationships to any. He is a suspect and therefor they were there with a warrant to gather more evidence. I’m not the one who made him a suspect. :laughing:

I want them to stand by me if I am innocent and act as such. If I do like this person did and shoot multiple investigators through a door I don’t want them to support me.

I don’t demand anything special, dont act like this moron did.

How are you not understanding this.
 
It would seem that the zzzzzzzzzj guy thinks that if the guy wasn't guilty he perhaps might have opened the door and let the FIBs explain their presence, not shot them through the door. But carry on with pointless bickering while leaving out that others seem to believe it's a normal reaction to fire at will through your door.:rolleyes:
 
TOMS97ZJ said:
Ok, I can’t tell if you are serious or just plain stupid.

How would I have evidence? I’m not a .gov official and have zero relationships to any. He is a suspect and therefor they were there with a warrant to gather more evidence. I’m not the one who made him a suspect. :laughing:

I want them to stand by me if I am innocent and act as such. If I do like this person did and shoot multiple investigators through a door I don’t want them to support me.

I don’t demand anything special, dont act like this moron did.

How are you not understanding this.
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Innocent until proven guilty on the accusations of child pornography. You deny that right to the suspect.

Stop conflating the shooting with the accusations that you so clearly are emotionally wed to as fact.
 
rockota said:
Innocent until proven guilty on the accusations of child pornography. You deny that right to the suspect.

Stop conflating the shooting with the accusations that you so clearly are emotionally wed to as fact.
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Uhh, he denied himself that by shooting people.

I’m not wed to anything. You Mr Thought police are trying to separate the facts.

We aren’t talking about made up scenarios here. He was under investigation.

The people who do the investigations had enough reason to get a federal warrant to search his house.

Before they even entered he shot them through the door.

That says everything I need to know.

The fact you continue to ignore those things and want to defend a guy who murdered multiple people and was being investigated for crimes against children says more about you than me.

Again, me saying I think he is guilty isn’t convicting him. Think about that.

ITS NOT NORMAL FOR INNOCENT PEOPLE TO MURDER INVESTIGATORS THEN KILL THEMSELVES.
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TOMS97ZJ said:
Uhh, he denied himself that by shooting people.

I’m not wed to anything. You Mr Thought police are trying to separate the facts.

We aren’t talking about made up scenarios here. He was under investigation.

The people who do the investigations had enough reason to get a federal warrant to search his house.

Before they even entered he shot them through the door.

That says everything I need to know.

The fact you continue to ignore those things and want to defend a guy who murdered multiple people and was being investigated for crimes against children says more about you than me.

Again, me saying I think he is guilty isn’t convicting him. Think about that.

ITS NOT NORMAL FOR INNOCENT PEOPLE TO MURDER INVESTIGATORS THEN KILL THEMSELVES.
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Let me say, I think it's likely he is dirty, BUT, that is assuming the reporting is accurate. The reporting is from media and the FBI, so forgive me for having some doubt. These have proven to be very poor sources in recent months. You keep saying we are ignoring the facts, but we (and you) don't know the facts.

We dont know if he shot shot through the door. If he did shoot through the door, we don't know if he shot first. We don't know if he opened the door and then shut it again when they wouldn't identify themselves. We don't know how they appeared in the camera view. (If he even was watching)

Innocent people dontt murder investigators, but they do sometimes kill home invaders. If you kill several cops for whatever reason, you have to figure you're going to prison. If you can't face that, you might kill yourself.
 
TOMS97ZJ said:
Uhh, he denied himself that by shooting people.

I’m not wed to anything. You Mr Thought police are trying to separate the facts.

We aren’t talking about made up scenarios here. He was under investigation.

The people who do the investigations had enough reason to get a federal warrant to search his house.

Before they even entered he shot them through the door.

That says everything I need to know.

The fact you continue to ignore those things and want to defend a guy who murdered multiple people and was being investigated for crimes against children says more about you than me.

Again, me saying I think he is guilty isn’t convicting him. Think about that.

ITS NOT NORMAL FOR INNOCENT PEOPLE TO MURDER INVESTIGATORS THEN KILL THEMSELVES.
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Yeah well, most people don't have the FBI coming to their doors so your sample size is skewed. :flipoff2:

When you start shooting at the police, whatever they came to do goes out the window and they're not leaving until you are in cuffs or a bag.
 
Filthy McChevy said:
It would seem that the zzzzzzzzzj guy thinks that if the guy wasn't guilty he perhaps might have opened the door and let the FIBs explain their presence, not shot them through the door. But carry on with pointless bickering while leaving out that others seem to believe it's a normal reaction to fire at will through your door.:rolleyes:
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More assuming.

subybaja said:
"Details about who fired first, or what led to the gunfire, weren't immediately available."

"The subject of the warrant was dead after the shootout, the FBI said. Piro said that he did not know how this person died."
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bgaidan said:
So you're racist and a pedophile? You sure haven't posted anything to the contrary. By your own logic that makes you guilty.
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WTF are you even going on about? You are smart enough to know there’s a big fucking difference between someone who is being investigated for child porn by the FBI and goes in to shoot people through a closed door.

I don’t give a damn about what you write about me. Doesn’t make a lick of difference. Sad to see you lower your IQ to make a BS argument that isn’t there. :rolleyes:
 
TOMS97ZJ said:
You support child milestones. I don’t.
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Congratulations on not supporting the accomplishments of children. Learning to use utensils, tie shoes, ride a bike, etcetera etcetera can be a big moment in a child's growth and development.

you're a miserable **** arent you.
 
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