Multiple feds injured, one dead in florida

[gunracer1]

What lies did these cops tell? Or are you just paranoid and think all LEO’s are the boogie man?

Oh wait you are just assuming. :rolleyes:

are you fucking kidding? did you not see any of the shit that was declassified? all the Russian hoax shit??

 

[TOMS97ZJ]

so you prefer guilty until proven innocent, regardless the charge?

And yet you dare attempt to cast shade on people who defend innocent until proven guilty?

I prefer to let the courts handle it.

This guy preferred to kill people and possibly support child molestation.

This guy would rather be dead than even try to pretend he was innocent.

You prefer to defend people accused of crimes against children.

Id rather not be associated with those people.

 

[TOMS97ZJ]

are you fucking kidding? did you not see any of the shit that was declassified? all the Russian hoax shit??

Oh these are the same people? Did they do the Russian hoax? But let’s not let that get in the way of you watching child porn with this guy.

 

[gunracer1]

you have 100 percent zero proof of child porn. you are blindly following a bunch of professional liars. they have to do a shit ton of house cleaning for me to believe anything from them.

 

[gunracer1]

I prefer to let the courts handle it.

This guy preferred to kill people and possibly support child molestation.

This guy would rather be dead than even try to pretend he was innocent.

You prefer to defend people accused of crimes against children.

Id rather not be associated with those people.

who fired first? were the agents killed by friendly fire? that's right, you have no fucking idea.

 

[rockota]

I prefer to let the courts handle it.

This guy preferred to kill people and possibly support child molestation.

This guy would rather be dead than even try to pretend he was innocent.

You prefer to defend people accused of crimes against children.

Id rather not be associated with those people.

you prefer to let the courts handle it, so you say, and then accuse people of guilt.

So what is it? Let the courts handle it - in which case innocent until proven guilty...

Or accuse people of guilt like you did in the rest of your post?

Can't be both.

 

[TOMS97ZJ]

who fired first? were the agents killed by friendly fire? that's right, you have no fucking idea.

Neither do you. Yet you choose to defend the person whom is being investigated by the FBI crimes against children division.

You support child milestones. I don’t.

 

[WaterH]

Oh these are the same people? Did they do the Russian hoax? But let’s not let that get in the way of you watching child porn with this guy.

What do we know?

We know that the FBI is capable of lying through their teeth. (Especially when caught doing something wrong) We know that child porn people deserve to die.

We don't know if these FBI agents are lying or if this guy is a child porn watcher/provider. I'm in no rush to defend or defame either party right now.

 

[TOMS97ZJ]

you prefer to let the courts handle it, so you say, and then accuse people of guilt.

So what is it? Let the courts handle it - in which case innocent until proven guilty...

Or accuse people of guilt like you did in the rest of your post?

Can't be both.

Pretend, accused, me choosing to not associate. That all means he should be found guilty? I never said he was guilty.
Accused literally means accused. Wtf are you talking about?

 

[TOMS97ZJ]

What do we know?

We know that the FBI is capable of lying through their teeth. (Especially when caught doing something wrong) We know that child porn people deserve to die.

We don't know if these FBI agents are lying or if this guy is a child porn watcher/provider. I'm in no rush to defend or defame either party right now.

I can agree to that. But I certainly am not gonna badmouth random FBI agents over a suspected child molester or whatever he was accused of because RUSSIA.

 

[rockota]

Pretend, accused, me choosing to not associate. That all means he should be found guilty? I never said he was guilty.
Accused literally means accused. Wtf are you talking about?

you should go back and read what you wrote... you literally accused the person of being a criminal with no information, while admonishing people who reminded you that there is no proof of guilt.

You must be a blast at parties.:rolleyes:

 

[TOMS97ZJ]

you should go back and read what you wrote... you literally accused the person of being a criminal with no information, while admonishing people who reminded you that there is no proof of guilt.

You must be a blast at parties.:rolleyes:

YOU quoted me in red. I never said he was guilty in that post.

I clearly said he didn’t even want to pretend to be innocent. Didn’t say he was guilty.

I clearly said accused of crimes against children. Not guilty.

I can associate with whomever I want to. Not sure why you highlighted that.

 

[rockota]

YOU quoted me in red. I never said he was guilty in that post.

I clearly said he didn’t even want to pretend to be innocent. Didn’t say he was guilty.

I clearly said accused of crimes against children. Not guilty.

I can associate with whomever I want to. Not sure why you highlighted that.

"Wow. Surprised so many people favor kiddie diddlers over cops."

you want to play the nuanced game of "but I didn't use the word guilty" in when i stated that?

 

[TOMS97ZJ]

"Wow. Surprised so many people favor kiddie diddlers over cops."

you want to play the nuanced game of "but I didn't use the word guilty" in when i stated that?

Oh I’m sorry. I didn’t put suspected. Pardon me.

If you are glad the cops got shot through a closed door while standing outside when trying to serve a warrant against a suspected child molester or whatever he was accused of you are on the side of kiddie diddlers.

You would rather take the side of a potential child molester. Congrats.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-agents-florida-raid-suspect-doorbell-camera-assault-rifle-closed-door

 

[surpip]

Oh I’m sorry. I didn’t put suspected. Pardon me.

If you are glad the cops got shot through a closed door while standing outside when trying to serve a warrant against a suspected child molester or whatever he was accused of you are on the side of kiddie diddlers.

You would rather take the side of a potential child molester. Congrats.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-agents-florida-raid-suspect-doorbell-camera-assault-rifle-closed-door

or maybe he's just taking the constitution side? Whereas you just like to assume guilt.

 

[TOMS97ZJ]

or maybe he's just taking the constitution side? Whereas you just like to assume guilt.

Where in the constitution does it say the feds coming to your door with a search warrant means you can shoot them through a closed door?

It’s funny how many of you got triggered by a simple statement when I didn’t direct it toward anyone.

Suspected of crimes against children, shoots and kills cops through door while he can see them on doorbell camera, then kills himself. Totally the actions of an innocent man. I better watch what I say or the judge is gonna declare him guilty.

Blind anti cop hatred is so strong people side with child molesters rather than people investigating crimes.

 

[gunracer1]

The FBI is now 100 percent proven to be habitual liars like I said, they need to do some house cleaning from top to bottom. I can’t believe anything from that agency till it gets over hauled.

 

[rockota]

Oh I’m sorry. I didn’t put suspected. Pardon me.

If you are glad the cops got shot through a closed door while standing outside when trying to serve a warrant against a suspected child molester or whatever he was accused of you are on the side of kiddie diddlers.

You would rather take the side of a potential child molester. Congrats.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-agent...le-closed-door

You claim you're not claiming guilt and then call anyone who doesn't proclaim said guilt as supporting a molester and hating cops...

So what happens if someone accuses you of something? You fully expect everyone in your circles - friends, family, employer - to NOT support you and instead only support the LEO... right?

 

[rockota]

Where in the constitution does it say the feds coming to your door with a search warrant means you can shoot them through a closed door?

It’s funny how many of you got triggered by a simple statement when I didn’t direct it toward anyone.

Suspected of crimes against children, shoots and kills cops through door while he can see them on doorbell camera, then kills himself. Totally the actions of an innocent man. I better watch what I say or the judge is gonna declare him guilty.

Blind anti cop hatred is so strong people side with child molesters rather than people investigating crimes.

irony is ironic.

 

[subybaja]

Suspected of crimes against children, shoots and kills cops through door while he can see them on doorbell camera, then kills himself. Totally the actions of an innocent man. I better watch what I say or the judge is gonna declare him guilty.

Blind anti cop hatred is so strong people side with child molesters rather than people investigating crimes.

Well, the FBI and the media said that's how it went down, so it must be true! At least the court is there to find the eventual truth, even if someone with a badge tries to cover their enthusiastically muscular butt!

Now, back to our competent, thoughtful leader President Biden, and his unprecedented sweep of the election! (That's true too, right? Media and courts agree!)

 

[surpip]

Where in the constitution does it say the feds coming to your door with a search warrant means you can shoot them through a closed door?

It’s funny how many of you got triggered by a simple statement when I didn’t direct it toward anyone.

Suspected of crimes against children, shoots and kills cops through door while he can see them on doorbell camera, then kills himself. Totally the actions of an innocent man. I better watch what I say or the judge is gonna declare him guilty.

Blind anti cop hatred is so strong people side with child molesters rather than people investigating crimes.

Who's siding with anyone? What's so hard to understand about "innocent until proven guilty?"
man its really easy to "win" an argument when you just make shit up, bet your one of those mouth breathers that likes to start an argument with "so what you're saying is...."

 

[TOMS97ZJ]

You claim you're not claiming guilt and then call anyone who doesn't proclaim said guilt as supporting a molester and hating cops...

So what happens if someone accuses you of something? You fully expect everyone in your circles - friends, family, employer - to NOT support you and instead only support the LEO... right?

My original statement was a blanket statement that people here would rather see a dead cop than a child molester be investigated.

The guy was being investigated for crimes against children. He shot and killed two FBI agents through a closed door. Those are not the actions of an innocent man.

if you want to hide behind a claim of the constitution go ahead.

The constitution has zero to do with the fact that he was under investigation for “crimes against children” and decided to kill people.

The fact that people automatically go against the cops who had done nothing wrong at that point in order to defend a someone accused of whatever against kids is what I was pointing out.

If that triggers you then it’s because you are supporting the wrong side.

To claim all 35000 people are liars because Russia is moronic.

Im not saying to only support LEO. But again, if they come to my house and I shoot them through the door for no reason whatsoever ever I’m probably not the good guy in this scenario.

 

[TOMS97ZJ]

Who's siding with anyone? What's so hard to understand about "innocent until proven guilty?"
man its really easy to "win" an argument when you just make shit up, bet your one of those mouth breathers that likes to start an argument with "so what you're saying is...."

Are you stupid? Can you not read all the posts in regards to people glad the cops got killed or even indifferent while trying to investigate a potential child molester?

Again. In this case if you are glad the cops got killed you are supporting someone whom more than likely played a part in kids being sexually assaulted. Congrats.

If me pointing that out bothers you then it’s probably because you know it’s not ok.

 

[Fullsize80cherokee]

The fbi isn’t your friend.

 

[TOMS97ZJ]

The FBI is now 100 percent proven to be habitual liars like I said, they need to do some house cleaning from top to bottom. I can’t believe anything from that agency till it gets over hauled.

100% of the 35k people are liars. :rolleyes:

All Trump supporters are racist too right.

 

[subybaja]

My original statement was a blanket statement that people here would rather see a dead cop than a child molester be investigated.

The guy was being investigated for crimes against children. He shot and killed two FBI agents through a closed door. Those are not the actions of an innocent man.

A lot of ASSumptions in your statement. You obviously believe in the the trustworthiness of the FBI, though.


"The FBI hasn't said much about the warrant, other than it was ordered by a federal court relating to a case of violent crimes against children."

"Details about who fired first, or what led to the gunfire, weren't immediately available."

"The subject of the warrant was dead after the shootout, the FBI said. Piro said that he did not know how this person died."

I guess you're glad the noble officers saved those poor Mt Carmel children too, right?

 

[surpip]

Are you stupid? Can you not read all the posts in regards to people glad the cops got killed or even indifferent while trying to investigate a potential child molester?

Again. In this case if you are glad the cops got killed you are supporting someone whom more than likely played a part in kids being sexually assaulted. Congrats.

If me pointing that out bothers you then it’s probably because you know it’s not ok.

again, we aren't talking about anything but innocent until proven guilty, but good on you for trying to derail the original discussion.
try and keep up, you need some crayons to draw it out?

 

[rockota]

My original statement was a blanket statement that people here would rather see a dead cop than a child molester be investigated.

The guy was being investigated for crimes against children. He shot and killed two FBI agents through a closed door. Those are not the actions of an innocent man.

if you want to hide behind a claim of the constitution go ahead.

The constitution has zero to do with the fact that he was under investigation for “crimes against children” and decided to kill people.

The fact that people automatically go against the cops who had done nothing wrong at that point in order to defend a someone accused of whatever against kids is what I was pointing out.

If that triggers you then it’s because you are supporting the wrong side.

To claim all 35000 people are liars because Russia is moronic.

Im not saying to only support LEO. But again, if they come to my house and I shoot them through the door for no reason whatsoever ever I’m probably not the good guy in this scenario.

see... now you're just blatantly lying to try and talk yourself out of a corner...

so... answer my question... if someone accuses you of doing something immoral and/or illegal, do you want the same rules applied to yourself that you apply to fellow citizens?

 

[subybaja]

Are you stupid? Can you not read all the posts in regards to people glad the cops got killed or even indifferent while trying to investigate a potential child molester?

Again. In this case if you are glad the cops got killed you are supporting someone whom more than likely played a part in kids being sexually assaulted. Congrats.

If me pointing that out bothers you then it’s probably because you know it’s not ok.

Or because we don't believe the FBI when they say someone works for the Russians...uuh, I mean is a pedophile.

You trust them, and believe what they tell you. We get it.

 

[gunracer1]

Badge bunny to say the least. I have know many police officers. Very few I would trust. So yes I am jaded, but I’m honest.