Mad Max days are here, the killing off of V8’s

[Landslide]

Whoda thunk we’d ever see the end of the V8 engines in our auto industry? Ford is still producing them until I guess the government commie EPA stands on their neck over it.

I’m so glad I’m as old as I am to have been around during our nations better years.

2025 Ram 1500 Ditches the V8, But That Twin-Turbo I6 Is a Reward Worth the Risk

It's a lot more complex than the old Hemi, but if it can reliably make this much power for the life of the truck, it's a real winner.

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[Ksand]

It would be fantastic if all of the manufacturers came together and told the government to go fuck itself

 

[KarlVP]

It would be fantastic if all of the manufacturers came together and told the government to go fuck itself

They can't. After the bailouts the government owns them.

 

[Sceep]

It would be fantastic if the people of the US came together and told the government to go fuck itself

FIFY

 

[subybaja]

It would be fantastic if all of the manufacturers came together and told the government to go fuck itself

I've thought that about California for decades. Follow Ronnie Barrett and see who blinks.

 

[Ksand]

They can't. After the bailouts the government owns them.

Sure they can.

 

[Kyle]

Sure they can.

They don’t want to

 

[Drakeslayer]

I remember in the 80s or 90s GM said no more big blocks except industrial engines. Since then we've seen the 8.1 vortec and other large displacement race engines from GM, and the V10 from Ford and whatever Chrysler had in the viper. With the abundance of fossil fuels I don't think the era of ICEs is nearing the end. I've been wrong before though.

 

[ToughBowtieTruck]

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Seriously I l covered this in 2021.

Apparently Ram Jeep and Dodge are getting a straight 6 twin turbo

https://tfltruck.com/2021/12/breaking-news-ram-jeep-and-dodge-turbo-6-cylinder-tornado-engine-went-into-production-here-are-all-the-details/ We finally have official information about the new turbocharged six-cylinder engine that should be coming soon to a Jeep, Ram, or Dodge near you. You...

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[Ksand]

They don’t want to

They want to, but wont

 

[Weasel]

Toyota did.

 

[BUCKLAND]

Toyota did.

Toyota is ghey, idgaf what Toyota does.

 

[RUGER]

Toyota did.

They've gone the way of the eco V6 with turbos in the tundra and Sequoia.

 

[Never Monday]

displacement requires fuel. as the epa turns the screws on cafe standards there's no option but smaller engines.

until rational people get back in power

 

[Animalmother]

Maybe someone will make a 1 cylinder nuke power with turbo nitrous and smoke them all

 

[Ebs]

They can't. After the bailouts the government owns them.

The bailouts revealed who really has the power. What's the epa really gonna do if they say 'No'.

 

[BigBurt]

They can't. After the bailouts the PEOPLE own them.

Too bad the people and ruling class are so separated now

 

[Kyle]

They want to, but wont

They will do whatever makes them (C suite) the most money.

 

[94toytruck]

It would be fantastic if all of the manufacturers came together and told the government to go fuck itself

Have you not seen them cut production of EVs cause they are losing money and people don't want them. It's the first step.

 

[Johann]

It would be nice if RAM could come up with a 5.7 V8 that makes more that 13 MPG in city driving EMPTY. 10 towing a 6x8 trailer on the highway. 4.7 was even worse

Love the way it pulls and handles but hate filling it up.

Bring on some innovation!

 

[Ksand]

They will do whatever makes them (C suite) the most money.

Telling the government to go fuck itself would save billions

 

[Thatg9659]

displacement requires fuel. as the epa turns the screws on cafe standards there's no option but smaller engines.

until rational people get back in power

Power output requires fuel input. Theres been no breakthrough in efficiency. Manufactures are seeming to notice that most users rarely require max output so they can loaf along with a small boosted to hell Engine.

A 300 hp V6 uses “just” as much fuel as a 300 hp V8 except during light loads.

 

[BigBurt]

Power output requires fuel input. Theres been no breakthrough in efficiency. Manufactures are seeming to notice that most users rarely require max output so they can loaf along with a small boosted to hell Engine.

A 300 hp V6 uses “just” as much fuel as a 300 hp V8 except during light loads.

Somewhere else I was on an incoherent rant about how not every pickup needs to have 300hp to haul a couple of sheets of Sheetrock. I can’t remember what a few of my 5.2L turbod 4 cylinder Isuzu nrr/npr trucks have for hp but they get decent mpg even with 21000 pound gross. Around 14,000-15,000 they still did better on mpg than my 5.7 when it was empty

 

[ndtguy]

Power output requires fuel input. Theres been no breakthrough in efficiency. Manufactures are seeming to notice that most users rarely require max output so they can loaf along with a small boosted to hell Engine.

A 300 hp V6 uses “just” as much fuel as a 300 hp V8 except during light loads.

Exactly. I own an eco boost (2019 screw 2.7/10 speed, 4x4/3.55 gears). It was a left over with 3 miles on it when I bought in April 2020.

When just cruising it gets good mileage (18 in town 20+ highway hand calculated). Pulling a trailer it drops off depending on how hard I push it/type of trailer/elevation changes. It does what I ask and does complain.

Do I want a v8. Sure. But at the time the 5.0 was having issues with burning oil which I wanted no part of. GM with their dod/afm issues and Ram with their rocker issues (already went through that with my Wife’s pentstar (use at least 10w/30 so far so good)).

Another thing the companies could do is perfect their stuff before letting the public beta test everything for them (I’m also looking at Microsoft when I type this).

 

[Weasel]

Iike the idea of a twin I6. Don't they run that engine in Mexico right now? Not sure about replacing V8 but it's a better option the a 3.6 V6 I'd think.

 

[SomeGuyFromOlympia]

who cares if you take the V8 out of a 1500....it is a 1500,

 

[Gbkeith]

displacement requires fuel. as the epa turns the screws on cafe standards there's no option but smaller engines.

until rational people get back in power

When were rational people in power? George Washington?

 

[arse_sidewards]

A 300 hp V6 uses “just” as much fuel as a 300 hp V8 except during light loads.

Look how most people drive these trucks. Other than maybe some dude who's leaving the stop light with urgency light loads are 99% of what these vehicles see.

It's surprising the small displacement engines don't get better fuel economy.

 

[Kyle]

Telling the government to go fuck itself would save billions

Of course it would, but all they care about is their salary. Bending over makes them personally the most money possible.

 

[Ksand]

Of course it would, but all they care about is their salary. Bending over makes them personally the most money possible.

Telling the government to go fuck itself could lower prices, resulting in more sales, and their salary going up