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Tryloff
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What a weekend. I got to meet Byro , who agreed to co dog for me at the last trail masters challenge. He beat me to the park by 2 hours and had the course memorized before I even got there. During pre running it was easy to see that this was going to be a fast course with lots of straight sections. In one section, there were about 20 trees just far enough a part that you had a couple different line choices. I hit a tree pretty good in prerunning and would have been on my side but there was another tree there to hold me up. We decided we'd just go a lil slower through that section.
After prerunning, we start messing with the steering, which was getting WAY too hot, and engine running rough. Byro had a steering cooler that he let me use and it helped a lot but still wasn't keeping up. As for the engine running rough, I couldn't figure anything out Friday night and decided on Saturday morning I would qualify as is and figure it out later.
Saturday morning comes around, and that means it's race day. I'm up at 6:30 nervous as can be. After a piece of bacon or 2, we get lined up for qualifying and I'm 5th in line. The first 5 get to pre run the qualifying lap once. We put down a pretty good lap, but the misfire was getting bad and slowed up down a lot. We qualified 3rd in stock class, 5th overall. Back at the pits I'm getting nervous. I pulled all of the spark plugs and found one with a cracked porcelain. I replaced that but got no results. Finally I just yanked all of the brand new plug wires off and reinstalled the oldies. Ran perfect then, but too late for a second qualifying lap. We eat some more bacon and then make our way up to the drivers meeting and parade lap. At the meeting we realize that they're doubling the points for this race. I'm currently in second place and only 1 point behind 1st.
Race time. We stage 3rd in stock, 5th overall. The first quarter mile of track is a split course and we get the right lane. Shorter in distance than the left, but where the paths come together, you will have a hard right turn. Byro was 10/10 hype man yelling GO GO so I went went and beat the other car through the split. Where the split comes together there was basically a double. I gave her the beans but we cased. Hard. I'm fairly confident that that was the main cause of our undoing. The rear end came back down to earth and we tore off again, now in 4th overall and 3rd in stock class. Next in line was an s curve that we made into a straight line and that got us into 2nd in our class with only one mod class tj between us and the leader. We were clearly faster than this guy everywhere except for when he dusted us out. We played the rest of lap one carefully, but held a fast pace. When we got into the sand bowl (sandy short course style of track) the driveline started hammering and jerking. We had breifly discussed a pit stop, but decided to keep partying. At the end of the lap was the joker section. No dust on rocks, so this was my chance to make a move. I took a hard right line and kept some good momentum and was able to make a pass in the rocks. The front end was a whole drum line now. We pull into the pits and check everything out. Jack the front and wiggle and spin, then same with the back. Something is definitely broke, but it's not obvious and the jeep still rolled so we said heck it and went back out. Lap two was fast, noisy, and uneventful. Another clean joker pass but I could tell I didn't have a front driveline anymore. Lap 3 starts, and the jeep quiets down again, so it was easy to forget about. Unfortunately, the track was really loosening up by this point so my rwd jeep was fishtailing wildly. Plus I was boiling my steering fluid out now so I was high-speed drifting through the woods with a manual 2 turn gear box. It was kind of miserable. At the first high speed section, I quickly realized I couldn't keep pace and pulled off to let the faster guys pass before they put me into a tree. I kept a medium pace until we got to one hill that's fairly long and has a very tight entrance so I couldn't carry momentum (I'm in 2lo now). Luckily, the guy behind me had a killer front bumper. He got me up the hill and we left him once at the top. We were able to hold a good lead over him until the joker. The sand leading up to the rocks was was too loose now and I wasn't able to start the line with rock jumping speed anymore. We backed out of there and took the 2 minute easy line. When we came back to the line, they were red flagging everyone and restagging. I guess the guy that pushed us got lost and was heading backwards down the track or something. No transponder at this race, so it's hard to tell what went on.
We restarted for lap 4. The track sucked now. Jeep is just as broke as it was before. Lap 4 was hard but uneventful, except for one stoppie that we both wish was on camera. Byro hopped out at the pits at the end of 4 to grab steering juice. The plan was for me to grab him at the end of lap 5. Well, remember that hill that I got pushed up? Yeah that wasn't happening this time. The front end bound up about half way up the hill and that's where I was. The trail plug. I was able to get off the hill and phoned into the pits to send tools with another driver. Byro is way too bad ass for that plan, so he ran a mile through the woods with 2 tool bags and a gallon of atf. My dude was WINDED when he got to us. We yanked the front drive shaft and found some momentum to make the hill. We finished lap 5 and took a checkered flag.
Overall finish was a 5th for today and 4th for the season. A major upset for race results, but I can easily say this was one of the more fun races I've ran. From byro co dogging to other drivers helping out on trail side repairs, to the multiple near flips we had and figuring out the running issue 20 minutes before race time. What a rush.
Back at the pits we partied, smugged, ate good, and joked around. Byro made me pull the dif cover and boy howdy, was that thing a mess. What a blast. I enjoy racing, but I am very thankful for a 7 month rest.
After prerunning, we start messing with the steering, which was getting WAY too hot, and engine running rough. Byro had a steering cooler that he let me use and it helped a lot but still wasn't keeping up. As for the engine running rough, I couldn't figure anything out Friday night and decided on Saturday morning I would qualify as is and figure it out later.
Saturday morning comes around, and that means it's race day. I'm up at 6:30 nervous as can be. After a piece of bacon or 2, we get lined up for qualifying and I'm 5th in line. The first 5 get to pre run the qualifying lap once. We put down a pretty good lap, but the misfire was getting bad and slowed up down a lot. We qualified 3rd in stock class, 5th overall. Back at the pits I'm getting nervous. I pulled all of the spark plugs and found one with a cracked porcelain. I replaced that but got no results. Finally I just yanked all of the brand new plug wires off and reinstalled the oldies. Ran perfect then, but too late for a second qualifying lap. We eat some more bacon and then make our way up to the drivers meeting and parade lap. At the meeting we realize that they're doubling the points for this race. I'm currently in second place and only 1 point behind 1st.
Race time. We stage 3rd in stock, 5th overall. The first quarter mile of track is a split course and we get the right lane. Shorter in distance than the left, but where the paths come together, you will have a hard right turn. Byro was 10/10 hype man yelling GO GO so I went went and beat the other car through the split. Where the split comes together there was basically a double. I gave her the beans but we cased. Hard. I'm fairly confident that that was the main cause of our undoing. The rear end came back down to earth and we tore off again, now in 4th overall and 3rd in stock class. Next in line was an s curve that we made into a straight line and that got us into 2nd in our class with only one mod class tj between us and the leader. We were clearly faster than this guy everywhere except for when he dusted us out. We played the rest of lap one carefully, but held a fast pace. When we got into the sand bowl (sandy short course style of track) the driveline started hammering and jerking. We had breifly discussed a pit stop, but decided to keep partying. At the end of the lap was the joker section. No dust on rocks, so this was my chance to make a move. I took a hard right line and kept some good momentum and was able to make a pass in the rocks. The front end was a whole drum line now. We pull into the pits and check everything out. Jack the front and wiggle and spin, then same with the back. Something is definitely broke, but it's not obvious and the jeep still rolled so we said heck it and went back out. Lap two was fast, noisy, and uneventful. Another clean joker pass but I could tell I didn't have a front driveline anymore. Lap 3 starts, and the jeep quiets down again, so it was easy to forget about. Unfortunately, the track was really loosening up by this point so my rwd jeep was fishtailing wildly. Plus I was boiling my steering fluid out now so I was high-speed drifting through the woods with a manual 2 turn gear box. It was kind of miserable. At the first high speed section, I quickly realized I couldn't keep pace and pulled off to let the faster guys pass before they put me into a tree. I kept a medium pace until we got to one hill that's fairly long and has a very tight entrance so I couldn't carry momentum (I'm in 2lo now). Luckily, the guy behind me had a killer front bumper. He got me up the hill and we left him once at the top. We were able to hold a good lead over him until the joker. The sand leading up to the rocks was was too loose now and I wasn't able to start the line with rock jumping speed anymore. We backed out of there and took the 2 minute easy line. When we came back to the line, they were red flagging everyone and restagging. I guess the guy that pushed us got lost and was heading backwards down the track or something. No transponder at this race, so it's hard to tell what went on.
We restarted for lap 4. The track sucked now. Jeep is just as broke as it was before. Lap 4 was hard but uneventful, except for one stoppie that we both wish was on camera. Byro hopped out at the pits at the end of 4 to grab steering juice. The plan was for me to grab him at the end of lap 5. Well, remember that hill that I got pushed up? Yeah that wasn't happening this time. The front end bound up about half way up the hill and that's where I was. The trail plug. I was able to get off the hill and phoned into the pits to send tools with another driver. Byro is way too bad ass for that plan, so he ran a mile through the woods with 2 tool bags and a gallon of atf. My dude was WINDED when he got to us. We yanked the front drive shaft and found some momentum to make the hill. We finished lap 5 and took a checkered flag.
Overall finish was a 5th for today and 4th for the season. A major upset for race results, but I can easily say this was one of the more fun races I've ran. From byro co dogging to other drivers helping out on trail side repairs, to the multiple near flips we had and figuring out the running issue 20 minutes before race time. What a rush.
Back at the pits we partied, smugged, ate good, and joked around. Byro made me pull the dif cover and boy howdy, was that thing a mess. What a blast. I enjoy racing, but I am very thankful for a 7 month rest.
Tryloff
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- Joined
- May 20, 2020
- Member Number
- 788
- Messages
- 369
A side note; I had my shocks (2.0 IFP fox non resi) rebuilt by FCR Shocks. The difference that these shocks made in the fast sections can not be overstated. These shocks fuck, and made all of the difference.
Don't mind the rev limiter. We were still running rough at this point and it was effecting the trans.
Don't mind the rev limiter. We were still running rough at this point and it was effecting the trans.
Byro
Lurkin’
Had a hell of a time, glad I could make it out. The old lady and I went out for a cruise Saturday evening we definitely cleared the double but just lawn darted it.
Also I didn’t realize that you’d still been updating this. The forum stopped showing me notification for it.
Also I didn’t realize that you’d still been updating this. The forum stopped showing me notification for it.
gt1guy
Apparently a racist
I catch every update and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Keep it up
Keep it up
Byro
Lurkin’
So now this thing has become mine. At least for the time being.
I have to do gears in it in exchange for renting it for a weekend. Also going to fix the front upper links that Tryloff seems to like to cash the bushings in.
Got the skid/control arm mount dropped.
Both upper link bushings were completely smoked and fell apart when I pulled them out.
Figure 7/8 FK joints with 5/8 misalignment spacers should be plenty adequate. Tube is 1.5” .250 wall.
I still need to build a new axle side mount, that was all for today.
I have to do gears in it in exchange for renting it for a weekend. Also going to fix the front upper links that Tryloff seems to like to cash the bushings in.
Got the skid/control arm mount dropped.
Both upper link bushings were completely smoked and fell apart when I pulled them out.
Figure 7/8 FK joints with 5/8 misalignment spacers should be plenty adequate. Tube is 1.5” .250 wall.
I still need to build a new axle side mount, that was all for today.
Byro
Lurkin’
Just realized I’m updating someone else’s build thread before mine. 
Tryloff
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I do feel bad about your rig not being up and running.
That gets overshadowed by excitement to have the diff back together and a better front suspension.
Plus, there's a not zero chance that I'll get to see my jeep rocketed up crazy horse.
That gets overshadowed by excitement to have the diff back together and a better front suspension.
Plus, there's a not zero chance that I'll get to see my jeep rocketed up crazy horse.
Byro
Lurkin’
Little action this morning before getting started on customer vehicles.
Got the factory mount chopped out.
Whipped up a new mount in my precision drill press.
Got the factory mount chopped out.
Whipped up a new mount in my precision drill press.
Byro
Lurkin’
Got the upper link welded as well.
My technique for these has always been bunch of never seize. Thread rod all the way in, crank the heat and let her eat, then quench. I’ve only ever had one get a little sticky in all the ones I’ve ever done.
My technique for these has always been bunch of never seize. Thread rod all the way in, crank the heat and let her eat, then quench. I’ve only ever had one get a little sticky in all the ones I’ve ever done.
Pretty shitty way of quenching something.Got the upper link welded as well.
My technique for these has always been bunch of never seize. Thread rod all the way in, crank the heat and let her eat, then quench. I’ve only ever had one get a little sticky in all the ones I’ve ever done.
Byro
Lurkin’
Quick lunch action in between jobs. Back side of the mount welded, I left the front open so I could weld the inside to the axle tube. After seeing how Tryloff drives this thing I want it ready to party.
Stuck the mount on the axle and burned it in. Time for lunch.
Stuck the mount on the axle and burned it in. Time for lunch.
Same I’ve been following along the whole time.I catch every update and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Keep it up
Byro
Lurkin’
I’m still quite impressed by this.
Got all the forbidden stripper glitter cleaned out and new gears in. Love when they’re on the money on the first go around. Gonna tighten up the BL just a touch and this thing is done.
Got all the forbidden stripper glitter cleaned out and new gears in. Love when they’re on the money on the first go around. Gonna tighten up the BL just a touch and this thing is done.
Byro
Lurkin’
So I figured out why the cross pin broke.
So the long side didn’t want to go in, after slight persuasion I got it but it binds the spider gears. I assume the first lap Dukes of Hazzard send bent the housing and bound up the spiders not letting it act like an open diff and loaded the pin and spit it out. I’ve got access to a frame machine so going to try and yoink this thing somewhat more straighterer.
So the long side didn’t want to go in, after slight persuasion I got it but it binds the spider gears. I assume the first lap Dukes of Hazzard send bent the housing and bound up the spiders not letting it act like an open diff and loaded the pin and spit it out. I’ve got access to a frame machine so going to try and yoink this thing somewhat more straighterer.