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Tucson and suburbs is roughly a million people, as far as I know we have one spring shop, it's been in business for 50 plus years. It's nor a great data point, they seem well run, well staffed and seems fairly priced, but usually more than buying new, I'm not sure if a competitor could ever get off the ground, or if this one shop can just service the whole area.

But, springs don't rust here, so maybe what I think is a reasonably priced service is higher than a back east rust belt repair:homer: and when we break a spring we just assume to buy new
 
This place made the front springs on the well rig.
This place was open last year but has since closed down.
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Tucson and suburbs is roughly a million people, as far as I know we have one spring shop, it's been in business for 50 plus years. It's nor a great data point, they seem well run, well staffed and seems fairly priced, but usually more than buying new, I'm not sure if a competitor could ever get off the ground, or if this one shop can just service the whole area.

But, springs don't rust here, so maybe what I think is a reasonably priced service is higher than a back east rust belt repair:homer: and when we break a spring we just assume to buy new
new stock springs will always be cheaper than new custom ones
there's a lot of labor in arching a pack alone, and labor costs money
 
I remember my old boss buying a new 2011 F250 to replace his 08 F350. He asked me to hook up the empty 22 deck over trailer. Stupid thing sagged like 5", same trailer would get pulled by the 2010 F250 no problem unless it was loaded really heavy. He ended up putting air bags in almost immediately.

I have no idea why they thought putting 1/2 ton leafs in a 3/4 ton would be a good idea. My 2018 F250 service truck didn't have that issue at all, so I guess they realized it at some point.

It wierd that people say local spring shop like it's as common as a tire shop. Is that an east coast/rust belt thing?

No, we have one here, and a couple up island. Just about as west as you can get.
 
Not a thing out west? Every town in NY has one. I have 3 within an hour of me.
We have at least 4 I can think of in the Portland metro area....but I think its one of those things, if youre not in the industry, you dont think about .
 
So basically in the west they're are 1 or 2 in big cites.

Like I said, guys in here talking about "your local spring shop" like there is a few in every town.

Anyone ever had a pack built for a crawler?
 
So basically in the west they're are 1 or 2 in big cites.

Like I said, guys in here talking about "your local spring shop" like there is a few in every town.

Anyone ever had a pack built for a crawler?
To be fair, Bonners Ferry doesn’t have anything else either. :flipoff2:
 
To be fair, Bonners Ferry doesn’t have anything else either. :flipoff2:

We have 3 tire shops, 3 auto parts shops, multiple diesel repair places, bunch of standard mechanic places. By the standards on here, we should have at least 2 spring shops :flipoff2:

The only spring shop I found between here and spokane was the one you posted. The town I moved from of 26k had 4 tire shops, no spring shop, closest town of ~90k had no spring shop.....

I've never once heard or seen a leaf spring fail on a stock vehicle, even after 40 years. But I totally see how salt in between the leaves would dramatically speed up wear and failures.
 
We have 3 tire shops, 3 auto parts shops, multiple diesel repair places, bunch of standard mechanic places. By the standards on here, we should have at least 2 spring shops :flipoff2:

The only spring shop I found between here and spokane was the one you posted. The town I moved from of 26k had 4 tire shops, no spring shop, closest town of ~90k had no spring shop.....

I've never once heard or seen a leaf spring fail on a stock vehicle, even after 40 years. But I totally see how salt in between the leaves would dramatically speed up wear and failures.
Bonners has more going on than we have in Newport. I wish we had your brewery. Pohl spring is good, I’ve used them for years for heavy truck springs. I’ve had friends get custom spring packs for various 4x4s built there and they’ve always done a good job.
 
I've never once heard or seen a leaf spring fail on a stock vehicle, even after 40 years. But I totally see how salt in between the leaves would dramatically speed up wear and failures.
I dunno if it is the salt, but they do tend to break leaves and eyes fairly regularly, we see maybe 5 vehicles a year, and we don't even really work on cab&chassis LDT stuff, much less anything heavier
 
I dunno if it is the salt, but they do tend to break leaves and eyes fairly regularly, we see maybe 5 vehicles a year, and we don't even really work on cab&chassis LDT stuff, much less anything heavier
Are the leaves rusting together and not flexing properly causing all of the flex to be on the eyes or mainspring?
 
Bonners has more going on than we have in Newport. I wish we had your brewery. Pohl spring is good, I’ve used them for years for heavy truck springs. I’ve had friends get custom spring packs for various 4x4s built there and they’ve always done a good job.

I came from a town of 12k that touched a town of 26k, for the most part, Bonners has more than both of those put together. I was very used to driving 40 mins down the hill 2 or 3 times a week. Now, it's rare that I have to leave town for something. For as small as it is, it's pretty damn self sufficient.

I dunno if it is the salt, but they do tend to break leaves and eyes fairly regularly, we see maybe 5 vehicles a year, and we don't even really work on cab&chassis LDT stuff, much less anything heavier

If someone were ever to break a leaf on a truck, it's one of the few items that are dirt cheap at the junk yard over here. Why pay $700 when I can get a pair with ~100k miles on them for $75.
 
Are the leaves rusting together and not flexing properly causing all of the flex to be on the eyes or mainspring?
maybe, well, more specifically just building up shelves of rust at the ends of the leaves
rust does not adhere things together, it jacks them apart
 
We have 3 tire shops, 3 auto parts shops, multiple diesel repair places, bunch of standard mechanic places. By the standards on here, we should have at least 2 spring shops :flipoff2:

The only spring shop I found between here and spokane was the one you posted. The town I moved from of 26k had 4 tire shops, no spring shop, closest town of ~90k had no spring shop.....

I've never once heard or seen a leaf spring fail on a stock vehicle, even after 40 years. But I totally see how salt in between the leaves would dramatically speed up wear and failures.
I bet you that diesel shop or whatever one in town that works on heavy duty trucks does spring work as well. Back when I had my yj in HS that's who made and tossed an AAL in the leaf pack for me. Same shop was the only one that would touch my lifted Tacoma when I needed an alignment (Chicago suburbs fyi).
 

stengelbros is my go to for custom u bolts, usually ship out within a day or two
I have used Stengel Bros many times in the past and never been dissatisfied. Good place for springs, U-bolts and brackets.

We recently replaced the springs on a Furd in the shop and obtained the springs from one of the Furd dealers in our group. I was pretty surprised at how low the cost was for a factory part. Ram springs are usually twice that.
 
Seems like a fair price with current steel prives:beer:

I think it is pretty fair. I should have said "semi-custom" packs. They are taking an off the shelf pack and changing/adding some of the leaves in the pack to get the carrying capacity and arch I want. Still pretty reasonable.

Ironically, I sold my spare vehicle the day before the main leaf broke on this truck. Fortunate to have a work truck to drive until this one is back in service.
 
I dunno if it is the salt, but they do tend to break leaves and eyes fairly regularly, we see maybe 5 vehicles a year, and we don't even really work on cab&chassis LDT stuff, much less anything heavier

I have broken several leaves over the years.

85 Toyota Pickup - I custom built junkyard packs that broke leafs frequently, mainly from abuse (I imagine)

99 Silverado 1500 - leaf under the main leaf broke on both sides around 150k miles. Replaced with some NOS 3500 springs I had laying around

Mid 90s Fords - have owned several that had broken leafs, never a main leaf though. Swapped in junkyard leaves/packs as this is what I could afford at the time.

2011 F250 - this one snapped the main leaf right at the axle. I have not had this situation before. I know the PO carried a slide in camper frequently, which may have contributed to the break

If this was a toy, I would consider junkyard packs. Being a DD and my main tow rig, I wanted piece of mind with new packs.
 
So basically in the west they're are 1 or 2 in big cites.

Like I said, guys in here talking about "your local spring shop" like there is a few in every town.

Anyone ever had a pack built for a crawler?

Yeah, of course. At one of the 2 local spring shops on the island.

Westshore spring puts on the island cup, and I think the one up island is called island spring or something like that.
 
Yeah, of course. At one of the 2 local spring shops on the island.

Westshore spring puts on the island cup, and I think the one up island is called island spring or something like that.
Island Spring in Ladysmith, and I think Hub City Spring in Nanaimo still there.
 
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