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Jesus Fucking Christ CALIFORNIA

The companies that sold all those solar contracts to homeowners and the power companies making electricity are the only ones that were ever meant to profit from this. Anyone that thought they were going to get free or nearly free power from a company that makes money off selling you electricity is a fucking fool of epic proportions. The power companies would go out of business if it worked the way they told you it was going to. Think about it...... :shaking:
 
Animalmother said:
Power companies dont want anyone using solar
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They are cutting back on the incentives to install, they are trying to build battery storage plants so the excess can be stored with marginal success from what I've heard.
billdacat said:
I live in the Saint George Utah area. . So we are undergoing a huge housing expanision. All kinds of Kalifornia pukes are pouring in. So today the POCO is asking peeps not to charge their EV's and everyone to turn up the t-stats. What is going to happen in a few years when we have even more people sucking up juice??? Another kicker; they are dumping water from Lake Powel to keep the Colorado river cool. :homer::homer::homer::homer:
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My brother is in Salem Ut, same thing there.
 
[486] said:
Oh you're on propane right
take the drain cock out and tee it off to a pipe that runs up to the relief valve port on the side of the tank
assuming the relief valve port is like 6" down the side of the tank like they normally are
put the electric heater element in this pipe to percolate the heat into the tank and bring it above the temperature where the gas valve is doing gas valve things
insulate it all of course

tee the relief valve into the outlet pipe or whatever
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Not a bad idea....

Although I'm not sure it would be worth it.

All the folks saying to pump water to higher ground don't understand that I'm at 8500 feet in the mountains. That shit would freeze if not buried and no way would I wanna make a mess with digging trenches with the hoe. Plus anytime you disturb the ground you gotta deal with years and years of thistles in that disturbed ground...
 
blakes said:
Not a bad idea....

Although I'm not sure it would be worth it.

All the folks saying to pump water to higher ground don't understand that I'm at 8500 feet in the mountains. That shit would freeze if not buried and no way would I wanna make a mess with digging trenches with the hoe. Plus anytime you disturb the ground you gotta deal with years and years of thistles in that disturbed ground...
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Use salt water :flipoff2:
 
Sorry to let the cat out of the bag:, however even lower level govt... is as corrupt as the fed........:smokin:....:flipoff2:

So happy shabin.. on off grid land is just that off-grid! Has its own solar.

It's not too late to leave and find some of your own.. just sayin.
 
blakes said:
Not a bad idea....

Although I'm not sure it would be worth it.

All the folks saying to pump water to higher ground don't understand that I'm at 8500 feet in the mountains. That shit would freeze if not buried and no way would I wanna make a mess with digging trenches with the hoe. Plus anytime you disturb the ground you gotta deal with years and years of thistles in that disturbed ground...
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pump water to your house from down the mountain, then :flipoff2:

"pumped storage" is something that needs extremely specific geology to work, and massive scale
pretty much you need somewhere a hydroelectric dam would work, but it doesn't need water at the top of the canyon, only the bottom
 
[486] said:
pump water to your house from down the mountain, then :flipoff2:

"pumped storage" is something that needs extremely specific geology to work, and massive scale
pretty much you need somewhere a hydroelectric dam would work, but it doesn't need water at the top of the canyon, only the bottom
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Remember...I haul every drop of water I have.

Plus I'm probably getting rid of that rusty GMT4 flatbed, so I'll only have yotas for hauling
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
Instead of putting up thousands upon thousands of windmills and a cabillion solar panels they probably should have spent that money on inventing the technology to store the electricity all this stuff produces first. Talk about putting the cart before the horse......

:homer:
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I believe the justification given was the same as with electric cars
"the technology isn't here yet to make them break even economically or ecologically as compared to ICE cars, but if a market is forced through subsidy then the technology will catch up"
Or something to that effect


Which if you have spent as much time as I have trying to make sense of socialist """economics""" it is way funnier than it otherwise would be
since that's basically every justification out of a keynesian's cockholster
"we can't possibly predict the effect that subsidizing failure will have, all the massive amounts of data on the subject is all tainted by biases, we've got to do more of the same shit again, oh it immediately failed in the exact same way, well that data is tainted too, we've got to try again, this time god will come down from the heavens and flood the earth with finished goods and nobody will ever need to work again, whats that you say, it resulted in genocide again? Well we know one thing for sure, we can ignore that dataset and try the exact same scenario again because enough people haven't been killed yet"
 
[486] said:
he doesn't have a well, because they're about a billion dollars in the mountains
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I get that and remember from him posting about hauling h²o.. as I used to as well.. however drop the pump in a tank or the reservoir whatev and voila. Solar water pumpy action...:smokin::usa:
 
Has dropped cistern and holding tanks in mtns of Colorado put the holding tank or water wherever you'd like. It can be done...

:smokin: I do understand you not wanting to trench . We also used a boring company ( they aren't as expensive as you think)
 
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blakes said:
I'm offgrid running on solar. My batteries are charged by noon or so (depending on conditions).

So during much of the day, my charge controllers stop accepting power from the panels.

I'm always thinking of ways to use the leftover power, but there really isn't any 'cheap' way of doing so.
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How long do the batteries last until they start having issues storing electricity?
 
M92PV4U said:
“Sales went flat, because nobody wanted it anymore,” Murray said. “It was not productive or cost-effective to do solar, and we were left figuring out what do we do now.”
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Duh you dumb fuck, it was only viable while the .gov artificially propped it up with subsidies. It can't stand on its own because it's a fucking rip off. You're either ripping off those that want solar or you're ripping off the tax payers through the subsidies. :homer:
 
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