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Ipod
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Wd has been shit for a while. Aeagate used to be decent if you bought the high end drives.
With as cheap as solid state is now i woulnst even bother with mechanical drives unless you legit needed petabytes of storage.
With as cheap as solid state is now i woulnst even bother with mechanical drives unless you legit needed petabytes of storage.
Motorcharge
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Once you get over 2 Tb SSD pricing gets insane. I've got 10tb with a 10tb parity drive that's already about half full and that was ~$500 vs the $1200+ for SSDs.
reptillikus
ate lug
Bluetooth? Not a classic, but the later model iPod Touch's do i think? That said, it is possible to add a bluetooth chip to the older ipods (i plan to do this this sometime over the winter) but itll be very primitive. As in, itll connect but youll have to do all the control thru the ipod itself and not the head unit. Ill probably add it to this thread now, because i have no idea there were that many people here that still use them!
I do have an extra ipod classic or two but theyre empty. I am a big fan of death metal, so probably not much music that youd like
You can still get mp3s of whatever music you like, even if its not promoted like it used to be. Its all out there, ready to be downloaded.Id like to talk about this.
My current setup is no wifi or cell service in the garage which is why the ipod reigns supreme. But this winter im planning on running an ethernet cable out there and setting up a router, so thatll solve that problem. I have no idea what TrueNAS or Unraid is, so i guess i need to research them.
Ive used JRiver, but i prefer WinAMP. Yes, its still around, its still free, and it still works great for large music libraries. Also, itll sync to ipods, which is a bonus because iTunes sucks.
Ummduh
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I'd be looking at either 10tb or 12tb drives, I have multiple computers that need backups as well as TV/movies, and want to get away from paying Google/Apple for their cloud storage
Motorcharge
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DM me, I'll help walk you through whatever. TrueNAS and Unraid are just operating system. TrueNAS is free, Unraid is paid but easier to use and has some really useful features.
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Shop around. I only went with the 10s because they were best price/gb at the time but they tend to vary. I've got enough drive bays in my server that I can expand quite a bit without having to migrate data and replace the drives that are in there now. Had really planned on 20 tb with a 2nd for parity but wasn't worth the cost at the time.
reptillikus
ate lug
Im gonna research this stuff, and then randomly PM you in like January or February
Motorcharge
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Check that out. Not sure of the ipod support, but it's a project to keep Winamp updated over time. Winamp's last update was last year and they've now abandoned it in favor of a live service streaming platform under the same name. It's really just a cash grab trying to use the name to sell NFTs and they're way late to the ballgame on trying to do that. Actual Winamp is effectively dead and only going to function until something in Windows eventually breaks compatibility with the final build.
Roc Doc
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Check that out. Not sure of the ipod support, but it's a project to keep Winamp updated over time. Winamp's last update was last year and they've now abandoned it in favor of a live service streaming platform under the same name. It's really just a cash grab trying to use the name to sell NFTs and they're way late to the ballgame on trying to do that. Actual Winamp is effectively dead and only going to function until something in Windows eventually breaks compatibility with the final build.
What I like about JRiver is they are consistently coming out with new builds while, not sunsetting the older versions. It has DSP functions and multiple format converters.
Motorcharge
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If I can't completely customize the UI of something I'm not interested which is why I'm still using Winamp like 30 years later.
Ironically, I can't find a music player I actually like on Linux. They all suck if you don't want to use something terminal based.
budget76
Thread Killer
I may have to load up my 120gig classic with all my music from 10yrs ago and see whats there. i stopped using it when the headphone port died and I had to use an adapter into the dock port, it was a pain in the ass and killed the form factor convenience
I should have a thread from 2-ish years back on here about NAS setup that may be a good starting read for those asking about setups. I'm a computer idiot. most people talked to me at too high a level, but i finally got Plex setup
I should have a thread from 2-ish years back on here about NAS setup that may be a good starting read for those asking about setups. I'm a computer idiot. most people talked to me at too high a level, but i finally got Plex setup
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Motorcharge
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It had issues when 10 came out with how window sizing is handled but they finally updated it a few years ago and it fixed it.
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wtf? i thought it was buried 6 feet under for like the last 15 years
i am a big fan.
reptillikus
ate lug
Motorcharge hit the nail on the head. Winamp stopped at version 5.6 or something and was then abandoned. One of the old developers fixed it, now it's up to ver 5.9 I think? Its free on their website under "legacy player". The 'new' winamp they recently released is pretty lame.
After Winamp died some of the developers created Foobar2000. Its not bad but I prefer the older Winamp.
I'm gonna have to read up on WACUP since I've been conditioned from running Winamp basically forever and I don't know if I can switch to a different program now
Switching to JRiver is a hard sell for me since Winamp still runs stable.
After Winamp died some of the developers created Foobar2000. Its not bad but I prefer the older Winamp.
I'm gonna have to read up on WACUP since I've been conditioned from running Winamp basically forever and I don't know if I can switch to a different program now
Switching to JRiver is a hard sell for me since Winamp still runs stable.
reptillikus
ate lug
Parts are still available. The hardest part about swapping a headphone jack is getting the case apart.
YJBrian
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been thinking about picking up and old iPod to modify if I come across a decent one.
reptillikus - you seem to have a handle on this. What are the desirable models/generations to pick up and modify?
reptillikus - you seem to have a handle on this. What are the desirable models/generations to pick up and modify?
Motorcharge
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Winamp should be fine for the foreseeable future honestly. The only major issue from Windows updates in the last couple decades was the switch to 10 when they changed how rendered windows work. 11 is basically the same as 10 and the development path for Windows is supposed to just build on that for the foreseeable future. So unless they do another major overhaul of Windows nothing should really change for Winamp.After Winamp died some of the developers created Foobar2000. Its not bad but I prefer the older Winamp.
I'm gonna have to read up on WACUP since I've been conditioned from running Winamp basically forever and I don't know if I can switch to a different program now
Switching to JRiver is a hard sell for me since Winamp still runs stable.
Roc Doc
2A SNBI
Motorcharge hit the nail on the head. Winamp stopped at version 5.6 or something and was then abandoned. One of the old developers fixed it, now it's up to ver 5.9 I think? Its free on their website under "legacy player". The 'new' winamp they recently released is pretty lame.
After Winamp died some of the developers created Foobar2000. Its not bad but I prefer the older Winamp.
I'm gonna have to read up on WACUP since I've been conditioned from running Winamp basically forever and I don't know if I can switch to a different program now
Switching to JRiver is a hard sell for me since Winamp still runs stable.
I run Foobar as well, mostly because iTunes wouldn't decode FLAC files. It's OK, especially for a free program, but I still like JRiver better.
reptillikus
ate lug
The audiophiles will tell you that the 5th Gen and 5.5 gen iPod Videos sound the best. I can't tell the difference in sound between a Video and the later model Classics, AKA 6th and 7th Gen but I use $100 ear buds, not $500 headphones.
So that said I prefer the Classics over the Videos because the they have a better processor and higher data transfer speed.
Some of the Videos have 32mb of onboard RAM, some have 64mb. All Classics have 64mb. I have a complete list of iPod Model #s broken down with model, color, HD size, RAM, etc I can post later.
The modding community has basically all agreed that large HDs and large music libraries (let's say 25k + songs) should be on 64mb RAM iPods only.
Speaking of HD capacity - all iPod videos will support an unlimited HD size, which means 4TB is possible. While theoretically possible to go bigger, I'm not aware of any way to physically squeeze any more HD space into an iPod.
Most of the Classics suffer from a software based LBA restriction which limits them to 128GB. The very last few made (software revision 2.0.4 and 2.0.5) do not have this restriction and can also go unlimited in HD space.
The Classics that cannot go over 128GB can be jail broken and run RockBox instead of the stock Apple software. This removes the limitation but effectively turns it into a generic MP3 player, which means you can't sync with iTunes, instead you would drag and drop files direct into the iPod.
Edit: I guess that's a long-winded at of saying 'it depends on what you want to do with it'
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korda
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I just bought a 7th gen because this thread reminded me I’ve been wanting one. From what I read the 6th gen ones are the ones limited so it’s better to just avoid. I also can’t tell the difference in sound quality but just happened to have a 80 gig 5.5 from back in the day.
YJBrian
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Thanks - my ears are not good enough to worry about minor audio differences, I guess I'm thinking something like an old school MP3 player. I have seen a little on moding ipods, but am really not familiar with what can be done. I stream nearly everything I listen to now, so I'm really thinking of a little project and that it would be be neat to have something old like that. Would be in a natural home in my LJ :)The audiophiles will tell you that the 5th Gen and 5.5 gen iPod Videos sound the best. I can't tell the difference in sound between a Video and the later model Classics, AKA 6th and 7th Gen but I use $100 ear buds, not $500 headphones.
So that said I prefer the Classics over the Videos because the they have a better processor and higher data transfer speed.
Some of the Videos have 32mb of onboard RAM, some have 64mb. All Classics have 64mb. I have a complete list of iPod Model #s broken down with model, color, HD size, RAM, etc I can post later.
The modding community has basically all agreed that large HDs and large music libraries (let's say 25k + songs) should be on 64mb RAM iPods only.
Speaking of HD capacity - all iPod videos will support an unlimited HD size, which means 4TB is possible. While theoretically possible to go bigger, I'm not aware of any way to physically squeeze any more HD space into an iPod.
Most of the Classics suffer from a software based LBA restriction which limits them to 128GB. The very last few made (software revision 2.0.4 and 2.0.5) do not have this restriction and can also go unlimited in HD space.
The Classics that cannot go over 128GB can be jail broken and run RockBox instead of the stock Apple software. This removes the limitation but effectively turns it into a generic MP3 player, which means you can't sync with iTunes, instead you would drag and drop files direct into the iPod.
Edit: I guess that's a long-winded at of saying 'it depends on what you want to do with it'
Edit: Loved Winamp back in the day.
reptillikus
ate lug
Bigger HDs & bigger batteries is the norm. It's possible to add Bluetooth to them, but it's primitive- you won't be able to control it from the head unit of your car. Its basically just taking one of those generic Bluetooth adapters that plugs into the headphone jack, dissecting it, and adding the board directly to the inside of the iPod. I started doing it years ago but never finished because the metal case blocks the signal so the range isn't great. Now however, someone has designed something pretty cool- a 3d printed back plate that comes with Bluetooth, usb-c connection and a bigger battery all in one 
moonlit.market
It's not cheap but i think it's worth it considering what you get. I'm gonna buy one over the winter to tinker with it I think, just cause it sounds cool to do. Really though, these days I only use an iPod in the garage. In the truck I prefer my FiiO M6; it runs Android so it actually has proper Bluetooth control.
If you just want to upgrade the HD capacity, then you can't beat Tarkan's boards:
moonlit.market
Home of Classic Connect, a plug-and-play Bluetooth and USB-C kit for the iPod Classic and Video. We also sell a range of other items, including parts and accessories for the iPod.
moonlit.market
It's not cheap but i think it's worth it considering what you get. I'm gonna buy one over the winter to tinker with it I think, just cause it sounds cool to do. Really though, these days I only use an iPod in the garage. In the truck I prefer my FiiO M6; it runs Android so it actually has proper Bluetooth control.
If you just want to upgrade the HD capacity, then you can't beat Tarkan's boards:
korda
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My moonlit market kit is supposed to be here tomorrow. I was going to put it on a 5.5 but might do the 7th gen.Bigger HDs & bigger batteries is the norm. It's possible to add Bluetooth to them, but it's primitive- you won't be able to control it from the head unit of your car. Its basically just taking one of those generic Bluetooth adapters that plugs into the headphone jack, dissecting it, and adding the board directly to the inside of the iPod. I started doing it years ago but never finished because the metal case blocks the signal so the range isn't great. Now however, someone has designed something pretty cool- a 3d printed back plate that comes with Bluetooth, usb-c connection and a bigger battery all in one
moonlit.market
Home of Classic Connect, a plug-and-play Bluetooth and USB-C kit for the iPod Classic and Video. We also sell a range of other items, including parts and accessories for the iPod.
It's not cheap but i think it's worth it considering what you get. I'm gonna buy one over the winter to tinker with it I think, just cause it sounds cool to do. Really though, these days I only use an iPod in the garage. In the truck I prefer my FiiO M6; it runs Android so it actually has proper Bluetooth control.
If you just want to upgrade the HD capacity, then you can't beat Tarkan's boards:
reptillikus
ate lug
Right on! Are you going to do the tie-in for data transfer thru the USB-C port? Post up some pics when you get in done, I'm curious how it goes.
korda
Red Skull Member
We’ll see. My soldering experience is limited to boogering auto wires together but I’d like to try. UPS decided I didn’t need it today so now it’s supposed to show up tomorrow.
I actually have some 30 pin to USB C cables I got off amazon that work well.
Jes
URF Racing
So, replacement batteries, where to purchase from and is there a preferred brand?
Glad this thread was started as I was about to throw out my old gen 3, now I'm going to mod it.
Glad this thread was started as I was about to throw out my old gen 3, now I'm going to mod it.
reptillikus
ate lug
I've just been buying batteries on eBay. For the most part they seem to last ok.