Hydraulic Auger Build

[Duc]

Washers make awesome spacers when your afraid of hitting fixtures. Stack came out to .250 each

Holes drilled for 1/4-20 bolts and machined a hole in the center for the lathe work. Side was machined to reduce interrupted cut in the lathe.

Fit check after turning down OD

Bored the front to fit a seal for a 2.5 Dia shaft and bored overall to 2.6in

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

 

[bgaidan]

Imagine the shit you could mow with a brush hog on that.

They totally make an attachment that will let you do that - skid steer quick attach plate with 3 pt attachment and a hydraulic motor that has a PTO output shaft.

I need to do some testing on the flow of the aux hydraulics on the telehandler. It if will support it, I'd totally throw the bush hog in it and trim some trees.



They also make the reverse - 3 point hookup to skid steer quick attack and a PTO driven hydraulic pump to run skid steer attachments.

 

[Muckin_Slusher]

Like I said....the boom pole would come in handy to give me a bit more reach with light loads.

Then again, this just sent me down the rabbit hole of hydraulic telescoping boom poles for skid steers and now I need to keep an eye out for a long hydraulic cylinder at the scrap yard.

Since the telehandler already can extend...is it really worth the added complexity (and weight) of having the boom telescope as well?

 

[arse_sidewards]

Since the telehandler already can extend...is it really worth the added complexity (and weight) of having the boom telescope as well?

Also having the curl be outboard of the extend vs inboard is probably worth a lot.

 

[Muckin_Slusher]

Also having the curl be outboard of the extend vs inboard is probably worth a lot.

I didn't suggest the added reach isn't worth it, I just mean, does it also have to be hydraulic (vs a simple pin entendable setup like mine has).

Yes, having the big stick past the curl means you gotta be on the fucking ball (especially with foot pedal skid steer). That's why I added the winch/ rope setup for mine, so I can do extra gentle jobs, and also lift heavier/higher directly beside the machine (since mine doesn't hydraulic telescope).

 

[bgaidan]

Since the telehandler already can extend...is it really worth the added complexity (and weight) of having the boom telescope as well?

Probably not, but why would that stop me?

The Titan one that's currently inspiring me just has the cylinder mounted on top of the boom so it's really nothing more than a couple pairs of mounting ears and two hoses. Theirs is 1 segment hydraulic and one manual extension. Looks like nylon rollers on the hydraulic one to remove the friction element when there's a a load on it.

It'd be a fun project if I happened to stumble across a 6-8' cylinder at the bone yard one day.


Edit: The reason for an extension would be for doing something like putting up a metal building or hanging beams or trusses. The 520 only has about 16.5' vertical reach, which probably wouldn't cut it for most buildings.

 

[CarterKraft]

Probably not, but why would that stop me?

The Titan one that's currently inspiring me just has the cylinder mounted on top of the boom so it's really nothing more than a couple pairs of mounting ears and two hoses. Theirs is 1 segment hydraulic and one manual extension. Looks like nylon rollers on the hydraulic one to remove the friction element when there's a a load on it.

It'd be a fun project if I happened to stumble across a 6-8' cylinder at the bone yard one day.


Edit: The reason for an extension would be for doing something like putting up a metal building or hanging beams or trusses. The 520 only has about 16.5' vertical reach, which probably wouldn't cut it for most buildings.

A hydraulic would be fun/neat but a hydraulic winch on a mechanical extension would be more directly useful IMO.
I have skeemed one like that a few times for my electric contractor buddy to set light poles with.

 

[Duc]

Installed a land pride 3rd function into the tractor minus the power. While the instructions state the aux power connector should be located in a certain, I dont think my tractor came with one. There isnt shit in the fuse box for aux power. I will need to run my own wire to power the joystick.

I did skip the instruction to remove the loader before running all the hydraulic lines and valve. Nothing leaks from the fittings.

Start of the shaft on the lathe. 1045 Steel

Tail stock support for profiling.

2.76in Dia for bearing
2.5in Dia for a hard stop for the auger. stop the auger before hitting the rotary seal in the bearing cap.
2in Dia for auger.

3.5in Dia will be sandwiched between the 2 tapered bearing. 3/4in width
2.75in Dia for bearing
1in Dia for aligning motor coupler before welding to the shaft

Finished shaft

Shaft fit check

 

[Duc]

Finished off the last of the machining for this project. Drilled the holes into the shaft for the auger.

Decided against mounting the rotary since I would need to also mount the tailstock to support the far side.

Rotated 90 degrees to drill the second hole. Close enough

Used gage blocks to support the other side to avoid the shaft tilting in the vise.

Fit like a glove but the slop in a auger is huge so it wasnt hard.

I should have ordered the hydraulic hoes earlier but I really thought I could buy them in town for a decent price. Local place quoted $450 for two hoses with quick disconnect fittings. Cheaper to order online and pay for 2 day shipping to have here by the weekend.

Parts will go thru the sandblaster on friday before a coat of paint and blackoxide on the shaft.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

I gotta say, when you started this thread, I thought it was gonna be some hick cobbled shit like I'd build for myself. I am genuinely impressed, as I'm sure many other viewers are.

Keep it up man.

 

[CarterKraft]

Craftsmanship is top notch that's for sure.

I'm skeptical of the performance given the issues discussed prior but the thing is awesome in its construction.

 

[Duc]

I gotta say, when you started this thread, I thought it was gonna be some hick cobbled shit like I'd build for myself. I am genuinely impressed, as I'm sure many other viewers are.

Keep it up man.

Nothing wrong with cobbled shit but normally I dont post on the internet when I do that. If anything the build is a way to keep my skills up with machining.

Craftsmanship is top notch that's for sure.

I'm skeptical of the performance given the issues discussed prior but the thing is awesome in its construction.

Thanks. I was hoping the hydraulic hoses would be here this weekend but nothing arrives till Monday to find out if I completely failed.

Massive image dump today.

Test fitting tapered bearings

Fits like a glove

Had to modify the bearing cap to give some relieve to the bearing cage (Inside counterbore). Additionally I turned down the bolt face to leave a face that will be .070 proud of the mounting surface. This will push against the bearing cone to add some bearing preload. Later I will cut a gasket out for the mating surface.

Works as designed.

The shaft coupler will be welded onto the bearing shaft. The bearing was on tight and I didnt feel like taking the time to pull off.

Wrapped with foil to avoid weld splatter from getting into bearing.

Weld looks like shit . I cut a v into the collar before welding on the bearing shaft.

Cut new tabs for the Titan SSQA plate. Glad I didnt ordered the 1/2" version

Alot happier with this setup. Prior setup was a struggle to get on the tractor. In theory the setup should have worked but in practice it sucked.

The system was leaning a little bit left when resting in the cradle.

 

[Duc]

Fixed the lean by lifting up a small amount on one side of the support tube before welding back into place.

Hangs well. Debating on reducing the support tube to allow for more clearance when drilling.

I dont need it to be perfectly horizontal so this may change later on.

 

[CarterKraft]

As long as your ground is flat you're probably good but if you end up on a slope you will probably need more room on that support.

It looks excellent though.

 

[bgaidan]

Would something like a spherical bearing work on the hanger pin? Seems like it would allow it to hang straight if you were on a slight cross slope or some other kind of weird diagonal slope.

 

[Duc]

Would something like a spherical bearing work on the hanger pin? Seems like it would allow it to hang straight if you were on a slight cross slope or some other kind of weird diagonal slope.

That is why I installed a joint that allows movement left and right plus forward and back. Similar to a spherical bearing but cheaper since I had everything already.

 

[CarterKraft]

That is why I installed a joint that allows movement left and right plus forward and back. Similar to a spherical bearing but cheaper since I had everything already.

The toggle is what the oems use.
Should allow for any movement needed and tough.

 

[bgaidan]

That is why I installed a joint that allows movement left and right plus forward and back. Similar to a spherical bearing but cheaper since I had everything already.

Derp. I missed that part.

 

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Cut new tabs for the Titan SSQA plate. Glad I didnt ordered the 1/2" version

but y tho?

if not enough welder, then 600f of preheat makes all the difference

 

[Duc]

but y tho?

if not enough welder, then 600f of preheat makes all the difference

More the weight of moving it around and cost. The miller 252 welder is able to handle 1/2 thick steel no problem.

 

[Duc]

Made some more progress on the auger system.

Sandblasted parts

Primed with etching primer paint

and magic happen, IE no pictures since I forgot

Bearing lubed up.

Bearing installed

Welded a 1.5in DOM tube sleeve onto the 1.25 shaft material to form a collar. The other side is retained by a collar.

Cleaned up some.

Updated costing.

And what everyone has been waiting on....testing of the auger system.

Few things
1. I have no used a hydraulic auger and only a 2 person auger 3 times in my life
2. I forgot to rev up the tractor above idle till midway thru video.

Overall the system worked amazing.

 

[CarterKraft]

Made some more progress on the auger system.

Sandblasted parts

Primed with etching primer paint

and magic happen, IE no pictures since I forgot

Bearing lubed up.

Bearing installed

Welded a 1.5in DOM tube sleeve onto the 1.25 shaft material to form a collar. The other side is retained by a collar.

Cleaned up some.

Updated costing.

And what everyone has been waiting on....testing of the auger system.

Few things
1. I have no used a hydraulic auger and only a 2 person auger 3 times in my life
2. I forgot to rev up the tractor above idle till midway thru video.

Overall the system worked amazing.

That worked great!
Not terribley fast but it appeared to have the power required.

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

That worked great!
Not terribley fast but it appeared to have the power required.

Especially after he revved it up.

 

[aczlan]

I know. It's scary how cheap you can get them. Makes it easy to have dedicated special attachments too.


I was planning on making one of these so I could hang 3 point attachments from my telehandler (once I get the SSQA adapter made for it), but fuck me, I couldn't buy the extra steel and pins for what this whole thing costs.

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(Look at the price difference between 5/16" and 3/8" though.)

Thread is on page 2 so this hijack is allowed.

I have one of those, picked it up cheap. It was apparently too narrow for the last owner as they cut one side off.
Mine lives with a 3 point bale spear on it until I get around to making a SSQA bale spear.

Like I said....the boom pole would come in handy to give me a bit more reach with light loads.

Then again, this just sent me down the rabbit hole of hydraulic telescoping boom poles for skid steers and now I need to keep an eye out for a long hydraulic cylinder at the scrap yard.

I know where there is a 60ish inch stroke 4" bore, 2" rod cylinder that could be had for cheap. Would need ends welded on though.
Could be dropped off en route back from Long Island to Rochester in couple of weeks.

Installed a land pride 3rd function into the tractor minus the power. While the instructions state the aux power connector should be located in a certain, I dont think my tractor came with one. There isnt shit in the fuse box for aux power. I will need to run my own wire to power the joystick.

I did skip the instruction to remove the loader before running all the hydraulic lines and valve. Nothing leaks fr

Did you find the connector? On our MX6000 it was under the hood by the lower RF corner of the fuel tank.

Aaron Z

 

[Pook]

Very cool. Would love a hydraulic post hole digger for around here, will be interested to see how it holds up with the rock.

 

[aczlan]

Very cool. Would love a hydraulic post hole digger for around here, will be interested to see how it holds up with the rock.

The local yard rents one out and it is great (teeter totter style, I have used it with a 18" auger on it):

Post Hole Auger Hydraulic Tow Behind | Sunbelt Rentals

This towing capable, post hole auger can help you get the job done quickly and on to the next site. Powerful, reliable and safe, these one-man towable, hydraulic augers feature forward and reverse rotation. Applications include fencing, decks, sign installation and landscaping. The towable...

www.sunbeltrentals.com

Aaron Z

 

[billybob_81067]

Dude....is it too late to cancel that?

Amazon.com

I don't even need one of those at the moment but for $140 shipped for the 3/8 plate version I can't not order one.

I've bought like 5 of the 1/2" ssqa plates off e-bay in the past few months. Got the ones with the latch boxes too so I can convert a few small loaders over to ssqa as I get a chance.

$139 for a 1/2" thick plate. I think the UPS man hates me.

1/4" 5/16" 3/8" 1/2" thick Quick Tach Attachment Mount Plate Skid Steer Loader | eBay

Once you've finished working, you can uninstall it easily, simple and convenient. Our quick-attach skid steer plate can work with a variety of machines like loaders or tractors to clear deep snow, remove farm trash or get rid of factory waste.

www.ebay.com

 

[Duc]

I've bought like 5 of the 1/2" ssqa plates off e-bay in the past few months. Got the ones with the latch boxes too so I can convert a few small loaders over to ssqa as I get a chance.

$139 for a 1/2" thick plate. I think the UPS man hates me.

1/4" 5/16" 3/8" 1/2" thick Quick Tach Attachment Mount Plate Skid Steer Loader | eBay

Once you've finished working, you can uninstall it easily, simple and convenient. Our quick-attach skid steer plate can work with a variety of machines like loaders or tractors to clear deep snow, remove farm trash or get rid of factory waste.

www.ebay.com

God dammit. I dont have a need for any plates right now but may need to buy two for later on. Not sure I can even buy steel at that price.