How does this ram come apart?

[2big bronco]

Pulled the 4 bolts and nothing happens. Not sure if the "cap" is just a large washer or if it is threaded into the outer ring that appears to be welded on.

The local no speak engrish hydrolic shop I think was trying to tell me that the threaded portion was behind the "cap" with the bolts.

I havnt gotten up on anything hard or put a ton of effort in as I dont want to be trying to tear into wrong. Ive never messed with a ram before.

 

[rockmup]

Just a seal in the center, the cap is held in place with the 4 bolts.
Edit: there might be a spiral retainer on the OD but I doubt it, probably just crusty with an o-ring.

 

[Steve300xcw]

Hoses are still hooked up right?

 

[2big bronco]

Hoses are still hooked up right?

No... why? The ram is sitting on the bed of my truck. Are you sugesting just sending power to the ram to push the cap out?

 

[2big bronco]

Just a seal in the center, the cap is held in place with the 4 bolts.
Edit: there might be a spiral retainer on the OD but I doubt it, probably just crusty with an o-ring.

So figure out how to get the cap out and the nut is behind it?

 

[cj3a]

Make and model of said machine please

 

[Steve300xcw]

Are you sugesting just sending power to the ram to push the cap out?

Its been done before Kinda messy. But sometimes when you are out of fucks.............

 

[rockmup]

So figure out how to get the cap out and the nut is behind it?

Could be the body is threaded and the whole cap threads off and the bolts just retain the guts in place. They come a bunch of different ways depending on what machine its on.

I've had to weld nuts on the caps and use a slide hammer before

 

[2big bronco]

Could be the body is threaded and the whole cap threads off and the bolts just retain the guts in place. They come a bunch of different ways depending on what machine its on.

I've had to weld nuts on the caps and use a slide hammer before

So you dont know if the cap slides out or spins out?

 

[rockmup]

The bolts tell me that it slides out, thats what I'd try first.
Should be a exploded view of that ram in the manual if you have it

Saw that you have it off, put air to it and see if it pushes it against the bolts

 

[Ebs]

Wouldn't it be odd for it to thread on, because the bolt holes need to line up to whatever they bolt thru to.

 

[2big bronco]

Wouldn't it be odd for it to thread on, because the bolt holes need to line up to whatever they bolt thru to.

Agree... but I dont really know. If its just a cap, that has bolts that thread into another spinny part that seems off as well

 

[2big bronco]

The bolts tell me that it slides out, thats what I'd try first.
Should be a exploded view of that ram in the manual if you have it

Saw that you have it off, put air to it and see if it pushes it against the bolts

No manual. Its a Bolderson 6 way dozer assembly on a cat d4 dozer. I believe cat only produced the straight blade and Bolderson manufactured the 6 way for cat. These are the agle rams

 

[rockmup]

Wouldn't it be odd for it to thread on, because the bolt holes need to line up to whatever they bolt thru to.

If the head threads on theres a set screw on it

 

[M92PV4U]

Its been done before Kinda messy. But sometimes when you are out of fucks.............

I've done it with air while holding the shaft, the shaft blew out, slipped through my hands, hit me in the chest and knocked the wind out of me.

 

[animator]

Some rams you have to push the cap in a bit to expose a c-clip, then it pulls out.

 

[Captain Call]

Cut the welds and spin the cap off.

 

[Ebs]

Give the bolts a few threads before popping it apart w/ pressure?

 

[Tin Roof]

Tannerite.

 

[Chadwick]

Hook something immobile to one end... hook winch or come along to other and give it a lil see if it'll pull...

 

[rockmup]

Looks like a set screw @ 0900 and tack welds on the back side of the head. Unless its just crap

 

[Chadwick]

I see the tack weld as well..

Looks like a set screw @ 0900 and tack welds on the back side of the head. Unless its just crap

Agree unless it crapnof some kind

 

[Muckin_Slusher]

Some rams you have to push the cap in a bit to expose a c-clip, then it pulls out.

What? (no not you What?)

Example please.

 

[2big bronco]

Looks like a set screw @ 0900 and tack welds on the back side of the head. Unless its just crap

Those are welds on the back side but apear to be factory and not layed out to be easily cut for servicing. All similar rams on the tractor have them. Im thinking that is just a stiffener ring on the end of the housing. Ill go looks at the suspected set screw but ai think its just crap on there. I think I would have noticed a screw.

 

[Chadwick]

Hook something immobile to one end... hook winch or come along to other and give it a lil see if it'll pull...

Refer back to my original post. Seriously

 

[animator]

What? (no not you What?)

Example please.

30 or so ton log splitter rams.

 

[2big bronco]

Ok, no set screws. It looks like welding something to the cap to try a slide hammer or cutting the tacks and chiseling the ring off with the cap are my 2 options. Maybe slide hammer with some heat...

Cap looks to be about 1/4 - 5/16 thick with a 1/8 gap to the threaded deal behind it.

 

[2big bronco]

Refer back to my original post. Seriously

How would I pull the shaft/seals out past whatever the threaded portion is behind the cap? Im thinking that the part with the female threads has to thread into the ram housing.

 

[Chadwick]

The cap has no choice but to come with it all at some point.. 2big bronco

 

[2big bronco]

Like this maybe?.