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WashingtonMatt said:
The whole thing stinks to high heaven. One thing is for sure, through either extreme incompetence or intentional acts, the conditions were set for something like this to occur.

As much as I want to believe it was some extravagant plot perfectly planned and only foiled by a bizarre twist of fate when Trump turned his head, the more likely thing is this is all a result of poor leadership and unqualified appointments and diversity hires. I suspect if someone were to review previous events, an equal amount of incompetence would be discovered, along with a healthy dose of complacency. We know the secret service has been a disaster since the Obama days.

Perhaps it's possible that people at the top were purposely assigning incompetent people to Trump, setting the conditions, then waiting for a media brainwashed radical to come along. If that's the case, it should be pretty easy to suss out by comparing a bazillion other planned events for anyone protected by the Secret Service in the years leading up to this.
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spot on. 100% agree
 
rockota said:
from the link I posted...
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That link is some unidentified people not involved in the case that admit they are speculating.



I do wonder if they think it was the water tower.
 
DMG said:
So the ladder was unsecured.

I also saw on local news that there was a ladder on the building, perhaps for the people that were supposed to be on that roof but were not.
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I looked on google images of the building from street view. I did not see any permanent ladders attached anywhere.
 
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Void_of_Light said:
There's a guy whose whole schtick is to see how many places he can get into just by carrying a ladder. He has quite an impressive list of places he's gotten to.

Most people assume a person carrying a ladder is supposed to be there. Why else would be be carrying a ladder?
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Clipboard and a broomstick with an HVAC temp probe taped to the end works pretty well too.
 
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Thomas Matthew Crooks, the punk who tried to assassinate former President Donald Trump, evidently thought he was going to be a star.
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Trump’s would-be assassin’s online searches, cryptic post about his plot on gaming site​

July 18, 2024 | Vivek Saxena | Print Article



Thomas Matthew Crooks, the punk who tried to assassinate former President Donald Trump, evidently thought he was going to be a star.
Federal law enforcement authorities confirmed to Congress during a briefing Wednesday that Crooks had penned an ominous message on an online gaming platform days before the assassination attempt.
“July 13 will be my premiere, watch as it unfolds,” Crooks wrote on the gaming platform Steam, according to Fox News.


The authorities discovered this message while reportedly investigating Crooks’ laptop. On the laptop they also found online searches for terms such as Trump, Biden, “when is the DNC convention,” and the July 13th Trump rally where the assassination attempt took place.
“The investigators found no evidence of a particular ideology on the laptop, which the FBI believes is notable, and nobody in interviews reported Crooks discussing politics,” Fox News noted.

So from the initial sounds of it, it was a non-ideological nutjob who’d possibly sought fame.
According to reports, the ominous message he wrote was posted on a Steam community forum centered on the game “Mr. President!”
In the game, the player plays as the bodyguard of the fictional “most hated presidential candidate of all time, Ronald Rump.”





Meanwhile, according to a separate report, Crooks’ parents alerted the authorities to him sometime before the assassination attempt last Saturday.
“The Trump rally shooter Thomas Crooks’ parents were looking for him in the hours leading up to the shooting,” Fox News’ Harris Faulkner revealed Wednesday. “We’re now being told they eventually called law enforcement to report that Crooks was missing and they were worried. And we’re also told that the parents are now being cooperative now with authorities. But they gave them the head’s up that something’s going on with our son, we’re worried.”
“We don’t know the texture or the details of their concern. So in other words, were they worried that he had a gun? What were they worried about him? Were they worried that he was going to try to attempt to kill a sitting president and then go ahead and turn into an assassin and kill another person and injure two others? What were they giving the cops the head’s up about?” she added.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Clipboard and a broomstick with an HVAC temp probe taped to the end works pretty well too.
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Any big construction site White hard hat and a clip board, most are to busy to ask what you are doing. White lab coat and a stethoscope used to get you through most hospitals
 
My friend said the secret service shots that killed Crooks were quieter. Obviously they were suppressed in the pictures. Do they shoot subsonic? My suppressed stuff is still pretty loud if it is supersonic.
 
bigun said:
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Trump's would-be assassin's online searches, cryptic post about his plot on gaming site · American Wire News

Thomas Matthew Crooks, the punk who tried to assassinate former President Donald Trump, evidently thought he was going to be a star.
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Which is more likely, that this dude was so deranged that he wanted to show off to his online friends by committing murder suicide in a way related to his preferred game despite not having political motive or that the FBI is lying about "no particular ideology" and him playing this game and shitposting about getting off the porch was just part of how he expressed the ideology he had?
 
arse_sidewards said:
Which is more likely, that this dude was so deranged that he wanted to show off to his online friends by committing murder suicide in a way related to his preferred game despite not having political motive or that the FBI is lying about "no particular ideology"?
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given the FBI's track record of late....
 
arse_sidewards said:
Which is more likely, that this dude was so deranged that he wanted to show off to his online friends by committing murder suicide in a way related to his preferred game despite not having political motive or that the FBI is lying about "no particular ideology" and him playing this game and shitposting about getting off the porch was just part of how he expressed the ideology he had?
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A video was linked here from 4 chan of someone that looked like him walking on what looked like a campus screaming that he hated Republicans/Trump which lends credence to shooters ideology being obscured now. That's my conclusion anyway.
 
DMG said:
A friend was at the event and thinks he heard gunshots from another direction before the suppressed fire from the SS but after an initial couple of shots from Crooks position on the roof.

I think it was quite possible that someone befriended and radicalized Crooks to use him as a patsy for the assassination attempt.


Crooks position was inside the perimeter on a highly visible roof
The SS and police knew he was there an hour? before the shooting
He would have had to haul a rifle case most of a mile in public view
People alerted police and SS to a guy with a gun on the roof
A ladder was left out for him
There should have been people on that roof but they were inside
Trumps SS detail had been mostly or completely replaced with incompetents
Crooks was known to be a poor shot
The SS snipers appear to watch Crooks but not fire (or do anything) until he fired at the president 8 times
Crooks is the only 20 year old in the US with no social media presence
Crooks happens to be registered as a Republican but nothing else is known about his politics
He somehow knows how to build fairly complex IEDs but no one knows how.
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I know of a guy on another forum that was there and says there was another shooter about 30yrds from him in the crowd that fired 2 shots. He hasn't posted since then. Who knows
 
95stepside said:
this tard could have had the best angle we've seen yet, but he had to go and show us his dumbfuck face instead...

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When I watched it live, I though the shots came from a ways away and we were just hearing the supersonic cracks on the mics. This video makes me think he only got one shot off, then several return suppressed shots.

Now my question is: who shot the guy in the crowd? SS or the shooter? Was he even in LOS from the shooter? Maybe I got turned around watching the video, but I don't think the shooter had a path to him?
 
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The ladder in the picture is a 10' or 12' ladder. That's a breezeway/walkway so you have at least 8' ceiling height plus roof framing.

Nobody is sneaking around with a stepladder that size. Hell I've watched guys that have been in the trades for years struggle carrying one by themselves.
 
300sniper said:
When I watched it live, I though the shots came from a ways away and we were just hearing the supersonic cracks on the mics. This video makes me think he only got one shot off, then several return suppressed shots.

Now my question is: who shot the guy in the crowd? SS or the shooter? Was he even in LOS from the shooter? Maybe I got turned around watching the video, but I don't think the shooter had a path to him?
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There were 3 people shot in the crowd but only one died. They didn’t seem to even be sitting near each other. It is possible that one or more were hit by the secret service or the possible water tower guy. Or that there was SS in the water tower.
 
DMG said:
There were 3 people shot in the crowd but only one died. They didn’t seem to even be sitting near each other. It is possible that one or more were hit by the secret service or the possible water tower guy. Or that there was SS in the water tower.
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The only problem with CS on water tower is how do they not see and or engage the dude crawling on a white roof with a gun?
 

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Hanlon's razor is a saying that reads:
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In simpler words: some bad things happen not because of people having bad intentions, but because they did not think it through properly.
The quotation is attributed to Robert J. Hanlon of Scranton, Pennsylvania, US. According to his friend Joseph Bigler, Hanlon first used it as part of something he wrote for a compilation of various jokes related to Murphy's law. The compilation book was published in 1980 titled Murphy's Law Book Two, More Reasons Why Things Go Wrong.[1] The name was inspired by Occam's razor.[2]
There are many similar sayings. One example is "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence." Something similar has been attributed to science fiction author Robert Heinlein’s short story "Logic of Empire" in 1941 (“I would say that you have fallen into the commonest fallacy of all in dealing with social and economic subjects-the "devil theory".'Huh?' 'You have attributed conditions of villainy that simply result from stupidity.”).[3] The phrase has also been erroneously attributed to Napoleon Bonaparte.[4]
 
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The US is doing it wrong.






Ok... I may be completely fucked up here, but I swear there were pictures all over the place of a woman Secrete Service Agent cowering behind Trump as the shot rang out. I swear they were all over here. NOW all the pictures I see ae the female secret service agent shielding Trump as he stood up and raised his fist.

I am imagining shit...
 
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