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So even the professional liar Schiff says Biden might have jeopardized national security. I think they are trying to get rid of him. It's weird when they start telling the truth.
If they are...it's because of their plan. They don't feed their own to the lions without alternative motives.
 
Kamala baby....:lmao:


Out of frying pan.....into the fire:laughing:
Even they don't like her. She's worthless to them as a viable candidate. She only got 3% of the primaries when she was running for president, and now she's proven she is not a leader.

I liked it better when they just lied. At least you knew that whatever they said, the opposite is what really happened.
 
Who won already:flipoff2:
Jeeze

I think the Dominion case will be decided in a court of law. 1.6 billion lawsuit. Large potatoes. Adult dose. Not decided here or by anyone we know. Not whether something can happen but did something actually happen. Norton Anti Virus was hacked. Anything is possible. This is for my new friend ExWrench - :flipoff2:
 

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I think the Dominion case will be decided in a court of law. 1.6 billion lawsuit. Large potatoes. Adult dose. Not decided here or by anyone we know. Not whether something can happen but did something actually happen. Norton Anti Virus was hacked. Anything is possible. This is for my new friend ExWrench - :flipoff2:
Leave me out of this, you erratic, borderline-sentient drunkass fucktard :flipoff2:
 
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Seems like the state knew the totals were wrong but certified it anyway. Belmar resident found the problem and pressed the issue

I think its beginning to unravel. Now, will anything be done about it? Thats the million dollar question. My guess would be, if anything they may "try" to correct it but as for what has already been done, "what difference does it matter now", will be the overwhelmingly view.
 
looks like ES&S the voting machine software company tried to sweep it under the rug then the guy that found the issue went public. Here is his reply to some local papers.

I guess I'm naive but I thought that all elections were looked at to make sure the numbers of voters matched the number of votes counted? If were not doing that basic check no wonder everything is a mess.

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Judge ordered a recount. Lets see if this changes any more outcomes than the one that is already known.

NJ is having all kinds of issues...
 
I stumbled upon this ....... It's where I voted. It steams like a pile but doesn't prove anything. It's frustrating that full accountability and access are denied. This article makes the process here look incredibly bad. -

Sacramento, CA - Great American Rebirth

I have been trying to follow the Dominion Court case for over a billion in damages against Fox news. In all the discussion about Fox and Dominion, I haven't found a single information piece questioning the corruption of the Dominion machines. Nothing. All the alleged arguments are if Fox is or is not entitled to free speech reporting something alleged by another party without proof. And that Fox knew the claims are baseless, and reported them anyhow. Fox did this and has neer stated that their claims are true. One would think the proof of innocence would surface quite rapidly in an argument of this magnitude.

Here is the text from the Great American Rebirth. "Pound that like button for the entire article" :lmao:

" SACRAMENTO REGISTRAR OF VOTERS

Election 2020​

A Limited Case Study​

“A secure and resilient electoral process is a vital national interest and one of our highest priorities.”
Department of Homeland Security

OVERVIEW​

In December 2020 our cyber election team was invited by Mrs. Courtney Bailey-Kanelos, the Registrar of Voters in Sacramento County, California to review Sacramento’s election system, and to audit the 2020 election results. The cyber election team was offered a $1.00 contract by the Registrar of Voters to perform the work (see Exhibits). The cyber election team accepted, and placed a technician on a plane to Sacramento within 24 hours.

ENVIRONMENT​

Unfortunately, if one has spent any time in Washington, DC, one understands that the town is filled with people who have extremely sharp elbows, and frequently put their own agendas above the interests of the American people. In this instance, a bad actor got word that a technician was on a plane headed to Sacramento, and proceeded to blow-up phones in Sacramento. Before the cyber election team’s tech landed in Sacramento, the audit effort had been squashed, as others in the County were now involved and the brakes put on the planned contract. Obviously, this was a great disappointment.

LIMITED CASE STUDY​

The cyber election team’s technician did, however, receive a tour of the election facility by Mrs. Bailey-Kanelos, who was and continues to be extremely gracious in all dealings. The cyber election team’s technician was escorted to every part of the building by Mrs. Bailey-Kanelos and allowed to take photographs of anything he wished.
In this brief document, we will post some of these photographs, and explain their significance, as they demonstrate how an election official, with the best of intentions, can expose this complicated election system to bad actors and potential manipulation.

BACKGROUND​

  • Mrs. Chris Bish, a local real estate agent, was a Republican Candidate for California’s 6th Congressional District in November 2020 (https://bishforcongress.org). SEE STATEMENT FROM CHRIS BISH
  • Mrs. Bish lost her political race to Doris Matsui (Sacramento County - Election Night Results).
  • Over the course of Mrs. Bish’s political campaign, she toured the Sacramento County Voter Registrar 4 times and communicated directly with Sacramento County employees.
  • After Mrs. Bish’s second visit to the voter registrar, she received a link to the Sacramento County Grand Jury Report (see Exhibits) showing flaws in the voting system and security, and calling on cyber security audits of the Sacramento election system.
  • Mrs. Bish learned that the Grand Jury ordered that Homeland Security audit the Sacramento election system prior to the November 2020, but it is the cyber election team’s understanding that this audit has been delayed until 2021.
  • Mr. Mark Cook, an IT Security Consultant, was contacted by Mrs. Bish and asked if he would be available to perform a security audit of the Sacramento County 2020 election system and result.
  • Mr. Cook prepared a brief contract proposal (see Exhibits) for Sacramento County, and forwarded the proposal to Mrs. Bailey-Kanelos, per Mrs. Bailey-Kanelos’ instructions.
  • Mr. Cook boarded a plane within 24 hours, and met the same day with Mrs. Bailey-Kanelos at their offices in Sacramento, California.
  • Mrs. Bailey-Kanelos was gracious enough to provide Mr. Cook with a tour of the Sacramento facility, allowing him to take photographs of the facility and contents.
  • Mr. Cook was informed during this tour that there was another party who sought a contract to conduct the election audit, and that the contract award process would now be handled by Sacramento County administrators for an official bidding process, as Mrs. Bailey-Kanelos no longer had sole authority to issue said contract.
  • Mrs. Bish sent a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) to the Sacramento Registrar of Voters requesting information and data that would effectively allow the cyber election team to conduct an audit remotely (see Exhibits).

FOIA RESPONSE​

  • The County Counsel for Sacramento County denied the FOIA request (see Exhibits).
  • In its response, Sacramento County effectively stated that the release of requested information would call into question the security of future elections, and that the public was better served by not releasing this information.
 
They (dems) have doubled down on their cheating and passiveness to it. Unless we burn them out nothing will change sadly.
ETA: I suppose passiveness isn't really the correct word, more like blatantly cheating?
 
They (dems) have doubled down on their cheating and passiveness to it. Unless we burn them out nothing will change sadly.
ETA: I suppose passiveness isn't really the correct word, more like blatantly cheating?
It's blatant in your face double barrel middle fangers, and no one is going to anything about it, we have become subjects.
 
A guy was arrested for either planning to plant a bomb or he actually did it here in Sacramento. At a DNC location.
 
Dominion in the News. As I said initiating a spwee of personal attacks it will be hard to PROVE anything. Beyond that, is the question if there is anything even demonstrable that will hold up in a legal environment ? And I submit that there is not. Fox is under $1.6 billion duress, and they have not even once offered that the Dominion machines are fraudulent. They have only stated that they have the right to repeat what other sources have stated. So they are not disputing that they are or were incorrect about the Dominion voting machines. All indications to date illustrate that there is no substantiate credibility to the claim that Dominion machines were used to steal the 2020 election. $1.6 billion to zero. The actual story with the final facts are still under debate but this will clear eventually.


" Legal experts say Fox News on shaky legal ground in Dominion lawsuit BY DOMINICK MASTRANGELO - 03/03/23 6:00 AM ET


Fox News and its parent company face serious threats to their financial and reputational health from a blockbuster defamation lawsuit tied to coverage of the 2020 election that legal experts believe has a solid chance of succeeding.
Dominion Voting Systems, which brought the $1.6 billion suit, is a voting technology provider that argues Fox News defamed it by knowingly repeating falsehoods from former President Trump and his aides and allies that Dominion’s services were used to fraudulently elect Joe Biden to the White House.
A slew of internal communications and depositions taken by Dominion as part of its discovery process has left many legal experts warning that Fox could be on shaky legal footing.
Dominion argues the vignettes contained in its court filings demonstrate how top hosts and executives at Fox knew the claims being pushed by Trump’s associates about Dominion were false but aired them anyway.
“One just doesn’t see cases like this in defamation,” said Catherine Ross, a constitutional law professor at George Washington University who specializes in First Amendment issues.
“Fox does not appear to have any plausible defense, particularly in light of what Dominion uncovered in discovery of real-time knowledge of falsity,” she said.
Dominion has deposed top talent at Fox and senior executives, including Rupert Murdoch, the owner and co-chairman of Fox Corp.
Depositions and texts show many hosts and executives had severe doubts about the claims made by Trump, but that they were also worried about how their audience would react to fact checks of those claims.
Sidney Powell is lying by the way. I caught her. It’s insane,” Tucker Carlson wrote to fellow prime-time host Laura Ingraham on Nov. 18, according to a recent court filing.
Powell was an attorney and former aide to Trump following the 2020 election who was promoting conspiracy theories about Dominion, including wild claims that the company had used software “at the direction” of former Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to swing the election against Trump.
According to the filing, after Murdoch watched Powell and Rudy Giuliani make false claims of electoral fraud during a press conference on Nov. 19, 2020, he told Fox News Media CEO Suzanne Scott: “Terrible stuff damaging everybody, I fear,” according to the filing.
Weeks later, Murdoch wrote to Scott saying “it’s been suggested our prime time three should independently or together say something like ‘the election is over and Joe Biden won,’” and that such a statement “would go a long way to stop the Trump myth that the election stolen.”
Fox lawyers say Dominion has yet to sufficiently demonstrate it defamed the company and clear a threshold many plaintiffs suing leading media companies for large sums of money have had limited success doing in recent years.
It argues it had a journalistic duty to cover the claims made by Trump and his allies, and separately accuses Dominion of “cherry-picking” quotes and strategically rolling out portions of what it obtained in discovery in order to drum up press coverage as it builds its case.
“Dominion’s lawsuit has always been more about what will generate headlines than what can withstand legal and factual scrutiny, as illustrated by them now being forced to slash their fanciful damages demand by more than half a billion dollars after their own expert debunked its implausible claims,” the network said in a statement this week.
“Their summary judgment motion took an extreme, unsupported view of defamation law that would prevent journalists from basic reporting and their efforts to publicly smear Fox for covering and commenting on allegations by a sitting President of the United States should be recognized for what it is: a blatant violation of the First Amendment,” it said.
An attorney for Fox told The Hill this week the outlet is confident it will prevail in the case, arguing Dominion’s suit could have a chilling effect on other news organizations.
Outside observers say the internal communications revealed through the discovery process, however, are a real problem for Fox.
“You can cover this without giving a platform to people like Sidney Powell because when you invite her on her show, you’re responsible for her lies if you don’t correct them in real time,” Ross, the legal expert, said. “There are many, many ways of framing and covering that do not involve actually giving a platform or labeling something as actual news or a fact.”
Neither Dominion nor Fox have signaled any public interest in a settlement. That’s unusual given the nature of the case.
“Most of these kinds of cases ultimately settle, mainly because the media defendants don’t want to take the risk in the bad publicity,” said Carl Tobais, the chair in the law at the University of Richmond.
“And the plaintiffs may be afraid they won’t win anything just because of the really high standard that the Supreme Court set in the New York Times v. Sullivan decision,” Tobais said. “It does seem in this particular case that Dominion may be making a pretty strong argument, so it’ll be interesting to see how it plays out.”
Times v. Sullivan was a landmark Supreme Court decision in 1964 that reversed libel judgement against the Times after it ran a full-page civil rights fundraising ad protesting the treatment of Martin Luther King Jr. by police. The decision has been cited in a number of cases by media companies looking for protection from claims of libel and defamation.
Fox’s lawyers this week declined to comment on any potential settlement in the case, as did a representative for Dominion.
Some of the headlines generated by Dominion’s recent filing may be embarrassing for the company, but do not meet the legal standard for defamation, Fox’s lawyers argue.
Among the explosive revelations made in the recent filings was a never-before-published acknowledgement from Murdoch that some of his hosts endorsed Trump’s election lies because they were, as he allegedly wrote of Sean Hannity in particular, “scared to lose viewers,” according to the filing.
Lee Levine, a private First Amendment attorney who has represented a number of major media companies, in an appearance on CNN this week said the remarks are newsworthy, but do not necessarily cement Dominion’s case.
“From a legal perspective, it is certainly helpful to Dominion’s case, but it is not a smoking gun,” he said.
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One thing most media and legal observers agree on is that the case is shining a spotlight on how the world’s largest news organizations cover dubious claims being promoted by prominent people and how failure to vet them can lead to drastic consequences.
“When you know that something is false or … if you are reckless in taking the steps to make sure that it is true and accurate then you may be held accountable,” said Joseph Russomanno, a journalism professor and expert in the First Amendment and media law at Arizona State University’s Walter Cronkite School. “What it will do is drive home that point that being careless or frivolous about facts and the truth will not stand.”
 
Well if fox news is guilty and can be help responsible for repeating what others have said I would think the other media outlets would be worried. Thats half their cycle. I guess "sources have said" will not longer hold up
 
Well if fox news is guilty and can be help responsible for repeating what others have said I would think the other media outlets would be worried. Thats half their cycle. I guess "sources have said" will not longer hold up
Good get rid of the lot. They lost any respect from me years ago. They are the only constitutionally protected job and they quit defending the very document that gives them legal protection to do their job and help the people stay informed of what the government is doing. Fuckem all. Send Fox down and the rest will follow.
 
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