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I bought a couple first aid kits recently to put in the jeep and 4runner. I dont hike much. Just need car kits.

I went down on the trail this weekend and broke my thumb. Also nearly ripped the nail off, and it was bleeding pretty bad. The kits were almost completely useless. There was hardly anything in there I could use.

I have a couple 1/2 sized Packouts I'll be using going forward. I have about $250 worth of useful stuff in my Amazon cart now. Added a couple things to my list thanks to this post.
 
I bought a couple first aid kits recently to put in the jeep and 4runner. I dont hike much. Just need car kits.

I went down on the trail this weekend and broke my thumb. Also nearly ripped the nail off, and it was bleeding pretty bad. The kits were almost completely useless. There was hardly anything in there I could use.

I have a couple 1/2 sized Packouts I'll be using going forward. I have about $250 worth of useful stuff in my Amazon cart now. Added a couple things to my list thanks to this post.
I’ve found that most “off the shelf” kits are lacking in a lot of something. I had a EMT cert before I enlisted. Three years in, the Army adopted the “Combat Lifesaver Program “, basically a EMT course. When I put together my kit for Lacrosse I searched Lacrosse related injuries that didn’t involve an ambulance ride. You’ll need do to a bit of “what if” if you want a kit that will cover most injuries. Then, you’ll also need to learn to improvise.
 
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I have a couple 1/2 sized Packouts I'll be using going forward. I have about $250 worth of useful stuff in my Amazon cart now. Added a couple things to my list thanks to this post.
Care to share what is in your cart? Looking at what may work for me as well
 
Care to share what is in your cart? Looking at what may work for me as well
still adding to it:

Rapid seal wound gel
Good 1x3 bandages
Neosporin packets
finger splints
Bactine spray
Guaze pads and rolls
Elastic self adhesive wrap
tweezers
paramedic shears
emergency wound closures
Tylenol and advil
large splint 36"x4.3"
liquid bandage
 
I'm looking at a smaller one for backpack carry, and have come down to 7 items, focused on basics to get someone safe until EMS arrives. CAT7, packing gauze, basic gauze, booboo kit, compression/Israeli bandage, tape, and gloves.

Been a little bit since I did CPR class, but planning on re upping my certs and building some more knowledge, including a stop the bleed and more. What else should I look into?

With some hiking I do I don't know if some kind of splint and way to carry, but it's not major far out hiking typically
 
Get them a first responder or tccc class. Training is more important than some stuff in a bag you dont know how to use properly. (Like in a bok/ifak)
 
I’m sure I’ll think of a few other things but….


I’ll reiterate what others have said, it really depends on what you’re intended purpose is, and the type of kit you want.

Having something to use around the house/shop when trained help (EMS W/ambulance) is only minutes away is one thing.

Having the tools to save a life while remote wheeling where help might be hours away is another.

First and foremost:
A first aid/ rescue pack is a tool just like any other tool in that quality matters.
Think more like a firearm that your life or the life of a loved one may depend on more so than a socket set or drill press.

There are a few places that sell well put together kits/bags of all levels but I suggest buying a good quality bag and building your own. I also suggest getting a bag slightly larger than you think you need because you’ll always think of something else you want after the fact.

Many items come down to personal preference but if you don’t have the experience how do you know what you prefer, right?

My level of expertise is moderate I suppose, my background is a 30 year 911 paramedic.
During that time when I’ve been a supervisor or even a director, I still rode on the ambulance regularly. I retired from the fire service almost 2 years ago, I went back to work at a busy Emergency Room in the Houston Medical center, and that’s where I’m currently employed.

I’ll update and continue my suggestions as I get more time, for now I’ll say this mainly because of what I’ve read of this thread so far.

I suggest:

Aspirin, small package or bottle of 81 mg chewable children's. In the event of a cardiac event (heart attack) 4 of these for 324 mg can make a difference. Cheap and doesn’t take up much room.

Benadryl, pills not liquid but some cream wouldn’t be a bad idea if you have room. In the event of an allergic reaction Benadryl can be a game changer.
For a mild reaction due to poison ivy or mosquito bites, it can be a difference maker between having fun and being miserable. Again, cheap and doesn’t take up much space.

Splints?
I’ve seen them mentioned and although a good idea, I’d not include them in my pack because many things can be used as a split.
Stick, tire tool, the other leg etc. just think outside the box and save room for something more important.
The one exception that I want is a traction splint. There’s at least one that is very light and compact. In the event of a femur fracture (these can be life threatening due to the possibility of severed femoral artery) I’ll elaborate later.

Clotting agents:
Personally I’d steer away from “powder” and stay with “hemostatic gauze”. This can be had as rolls or sheet bandages.

I’ve got to stop for now but I’ll come back and continue asap.

Before I go, I highly recommend that everyone takes a CPR and Stop the bleed class.
Already have?
Is it time for a refresher?
 
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I’m sure I’ll think of a few other things but….


I’ll reiterate what others have said, it really depends on what you’re intended purpose is, and the type of kit you want.

Having something to use around the house/shop when trained help (EMS W/ambulance) is only minutes away is one thing.

Having the tools to save a life while remote wheeling where help might be hours away is another.

First and foremost:
A first aid/ rescue pack is a tool just like any other tool in that quantity matters.
Think more like a firearm that your life or the life of a loved one may depend on more so than a socket set or drill press.

There are a few places that sell well put together kits/bags of all levels but I suggest buying a good quality bag and building your own. I also suggest getting a bag slightly larger than you think you need because you’ll always think of something else you want after the fact.

Many items come down to personal preference but if you don’t have the experience how do you know what you prefer, right?

My level of expertise is moderate I suppose, my background is a 30 year 911 paramedic.
During that time when I’ve been a supervisor or even a director, I still rode on the ambulance regularly. I retired from the fire service almost 2 years ago, I went back to work at a busy Emergency Room in the Houston Medical center, and that’s where I’m currently employed.

I’ll update and continue my suggestions as I get more time, for now I’ll say this mainly because of what I’ve read of this thread so far.

I suggest:

Aspirin, small package or bottle of 81 mg chewable children's. In the event of a cardiac event (heart attack) 4 of these for 324 mg can make a difference. Cheap and doesn’t take up much room.

Benadryl, pills not liquid but some cream wouldn’t be a bad idea if you have room. In the event of an allergic reaction Benadryl can be a game changer.
For a mild reaction due to poison ivy or mosquito bites, it can be a difference maker between having fun and being miserable. Again, cheap and doesn’t take up much space.

Splints?
I’ve seen them mentioned and although a good idea, I’d not include them in my pack because many things can be used as a split.
Stick, tire tool, the other leg etc. just think outside the box and save room for something more important.
The one exception that I want is a traction splint. There’s at least one that is very light and compact. In the event of a femur fracture (these can be life threatening due to the possibility of severed femoral artery) I’ll elaborate later.

Clotting agents:
Personally I’d steer away from “powder” and stay with “hemostatic gauze”. This can be had as rolls or sheet bandages.

I’ve got to stop for now but I’ll come back and continue asap.

Before I go, I highly recommend that everyone takes a CPR and Stop the bleed class.
Already have?
Is it time for a refresher?
I'll second all that.

I actually wound up as an AMEDD instructor and helped write some of the doctrine and taught the baby medics. The problem with hemostatic powders is the surgical care they require; hemostatic gauze works a bit better since you can pack the wound and add pressure to the bleed.

Leads me to the next. FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK, TAMPONS DO NOT WORK FOR PENETRATING TRAUMATIC WOUNDS. They aren't designed to apply pressure, they're designed to absorb fluid. The next time I hear that from some fat fuck with flat top haircut I'm gonna kick him in the shin. Pack that shit with hemostatic gauze or kerlix.

Final soap box topic: Incidental contact with fentanyl will not result in a meaningful absorption of the drug. This has been proven many times over, all those videos of cops fainting are just cops fainting. Police reports of accidental fentanyl overdose in the field: Correcting a culture-bound syndrome that harms us all - PMC I carry narcan all the same, but fentanyl isn't the boogeyman, trust me I've

Same with everything in life, learn how to use your gear and plan your loadout for the mission. I had an uh oh a while back on a swiftwater rescue mission, one of our guys was able to chuck a rope to the victim, but there was a mass problem. Rescuer was a 140lb ultra marathon runner, victim was a 220lb dude hauling ass down river in spring run off. Rescuer wasn't wearing gloves and couldn't hold the rope and it took off the skin on both of his hands. I carry big boy booboo stuff in my SAR pack, and little cuts and scrapes bandaids, but I didn't have anything for a rope induced degloving. I did remind him "dude, you can just let go of the rope".

I keep a few different aid kits around. At home I have a bit of everything, broad spectrum antibiotics, pain meds, muscle relaxers, lidocaine and suture kits.

My SAR kit lives in my truck, theres a few rolls of kerlex, a shitload of tape, ace wraps, epi pen, IV start kits, standard meds for our county protocol (narc boxes are controlled at the station), kelly clamps, stethoscope, bp cuff, pulse oximeter. Generally, I don't worry about airway/breathing stuff for SAR missions, anyone that needs a significant invasive intervention isn't going to survive long enough for us to hike to them. There are of course exceptions, but my kit is a baseline and allows me to add on to tailor response. Mostly because I'm lazy and I don't like to carry shit. It came about because carrying a heavy ass aid bag on patrol in the Army sucked and turns medics into easily identifiable targets. We tried to steer doctrine into this tiered approach to casualty care.

When I'm hiking or climbing myself I carry some tape and kerlex gauze, epi pen, and something to improvise a torniquet. As someone who has stabbed himself with his own ice axe, it's a decent set up. I also keep 3 tabs of oxycodone for those times that I roll an ankle or tear a knee and just need to get down the mountain. This all can pack into something the size of a red bull can, weighs less than a pound and is very nice to have when you need it.

All of your kits should have a decent headlamp as well.

I'll do my best to remember to put together an actual list at some point when I have the time.
 
I'll second all that.

I actually wound up as an AMEDD instructor and helped write some of the doctrine and taught the baby medics. The problem with hemostatic powders is the surgical care they require; hemostatic gauze works a bit better since you can pack the wound and add pressure to the bleed.

Leads me to the next. FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK, TAMPONS DO NOT WORK FOR PENETRATING TRAUMATIC WOUNDS. They aren't designed to apply pressure, they're designed to absorb fluid. The next time I hear that from some fat fuck with flat top haircut I'm gonna kick him in the shin. Pack that shit with hemostatic gauze or kerlix.

Final soap box topic: Incidental contact with fentanyl will not result in a meaningful absorption of the drug. This has been proven many times over, all those videos of cops fainting are just cops fainting. Police reports of accidental fentanyl overdose in the field: Correcting a culture-bound syndrome that harms us all - PMC I carry narcan all the same, but fentanyl isn't the boogeyman, trust me I've

Same with everything in life, learn how to use your gear and plan your loadout for the mission. I had an uh oh a while back on a swiftwater rescue mission, one of our guys was able to chuck a rope to the victim, but there was a mass problem. Rescuer was a 140lb ultra marathon runner, victim was a 220lb dude hauling ass down river in spring run off. Rescuer wasn't wearing gloves and couldn't hold the rope and it took off the skin on both of his hands. I carry big boy booboo stuff in my SAR pack, and little cuts and scrapes bandaids, but I didn't have anything for a rope induced degloving. I did remind him "dude, you can just let go of the rope".

I keep a few different aid kits around. At home I have a bit of everything, broad spectrum antibiotics, pain meds, muscle relaxers, lidocaine and suture kits.

My SAR kit lives in my truck, theres a few rolls of kerlex, a shitload of tape, ace wraps, epi pen, IV start kits, standard meds for our county protocol (narc boxes are controlled at the station), kelly clamps, stethoscope, bp cuff, pulse oximeter. Generally, I don't worry about airway/breathing stuff for SAR missions, anyone that needs a significant invasive intervention isn't going to survive long enough for us to hike to them. There are of course exceptions, but my kit is a baseline and allows me to add on to tailor response. Mostly because I'm lazy and I don't like to carry shit. It came about because carrying a heavy ass aid bag on patrol in the Army sucked and turns medics into easily identifiable targets. We tried to steer doctrine into this tiered approach to casualty care.

When I'm hiking or climbing myself I carry some tape and kerlex gauze, epi pen, and something to improvise a torniquet. As someone who has stabbed himself with his own ice axe, it's a decent set up. I also keep 3 tabs of oxycodone for those times that I roll an ankle or tear a knee and just need to get down the mountain. This all can pack into something the size of a red bull can, weighs less than a pound and is very nice to have when you need it.

All of your kits should have a decent headlamp as well.

I'll do my best to remember to put together an actual list at some point when I have the time.
Sounds great but you’re including lots of things the average Joe doesn’t have access to.

I believe between you, I and a couple others we can come up with 3-4 scenario based kits that would be top notch, but we have to remember what Joe Blow has access to.

I specifically avoided IV fluids and related supplies for that reason.


Here’s a link to the traction split I have.
It’s a bit pricey but absolutely can be a life saver, and traction on a femur fracture as you probably know can elevate most of the pain.



 
Sounds great but you’re including lots of things the average Joe doesn’t have access to.
For sure, I tried to glaze over that stuff.

I'm down to figure out a new kit, I'm just a little swamped at work this week.
 
I bought a few of these for vehicles, range bag, etc.

If you don't need a coolguy pouch: TCCC IFAK Refill Module

Same kit w/ pouch (it goes on sale for 75ish regularly): TCCC IFAK
This is almost exactly what I was looking for! Grabbed a small booboo kit and when it comes in check what's here and see if I need to add or take out (training issues).
Before I go, I highly recommend that everyone takes a CPR and Stop the bleed class.
Already have?
Is it time for a refresher?
I wanna stop the bleed, and it's definitely time to re up the CPR class
 
This is almost exactly what I was looking for! Grabbed a small booboo kit and when it comes in check what's here and see if I need to add or take out (training issues).

I wanna stop the bleed, and it's definitely time to re up the CPR class
Stop the bleed is easy and quick but very good information.
I’m an instructor of multiple courses, and it’s not uncommon that we combine STB w/a CPR CLASS
 
Can't really buy Narcan anywhere can you? I'd like a epi pen as w ell but they expire and are supposed to be stored in cold.

I got a MyFAK Mini Pro recently for the vehicle. I like the hard plastic case vs the fabric stuff. I had some prior and they got water damaged.
Not sure about where you live, in Texas you can now buy it over the counter w/o script.
You have to ask for it but it’s available.

Not a bad idea to have some but not because of helping Dope heads. It’s actually pretty hard to OD by coming into casual contact with any opioid.
 
Online STB course just as good as in person?
I’m not familiar with the online version, sorry!

Fact of the matter is, it really depends on the quality of “live” instructors.

Personally I have multiple adjuncts (dummies, fake arms etc)and I require students to practice the few skills involved, I don’t consider them a “pass” until they demonstrate they feel confident.
You can’t get that “online” but not every instructor is as through and has the “care” that I put into my classes.


ETA:
Any online course would be better than nothing.
 
I’m not familiar with the online version, sorry!

Fact of the matter is, it really depends on the quality of “live” instructors.

Personally I have multiple adjuncts (dummies, fake arms etc)and I require students to practice the few skills involved, I don’t consider them a “pass” until they demonstrate they feel confident.
You can’t get that “online” but not every instructor is as through and has the “care” that I put into my classes.


ETA:
Any online course would be better than nothing.
That was my thought too, a "practical" can't be done online.

Thank you for that, the hospital down the street has classes, and being off next week I'm going to see about grabbing a spot. I imagine online classes would be good refreshers afterwards
 
I bought a few of these for vehicles, range bag, etc.

If you don't need a coolguy pouch: TCCC IFAK Refill Module

Same kit w/ pouch (it goes on sale for 75ish regularly): TCCC IFAK
Just got this in the mail today, with a small booboo kit, and it's pretty damn nice. I don't know how to use the chest seals (understand but no practical use).

Now to get the knowledge and add to the kit, as I plan to add to both.
 
For those who want a splint...

Roll it. Fold it. Cut it. They don't take up much space.


Available on Amazon.

 
For those who want a splint...

Roll it. Fold it. Cut it. They don't take up much space.


Available on Amazon.

I keep meaning to add a few of those to my kit (different sizes). Sam splints are awesome.
 
I keep meaning to add a few of those to my kit (different sizes). Sam splints are awesome.
I should probably buy more. I only have them in my camper. Nothing in the truck or jeep, and that's where my first aid kits are. There pretty cheap and I'll probably order some around Christmas time to have in random places. Maybe even a roll of tape, but I think I bought a 12 pack of that stuff.


You can buy this at feed stores. It's ankle wrap tape for horses. My kid cut his head so deep he needed 3 staples. I wrapped his head up and drove him to the ER where I received a compliment on my bandaging. I bought this after because kids like colors and stuff.

(12-Pack) 2” x 5 Yards | Self Adhesive Bandage Wrap, Kuvvfe Athletic Elastic Cohesive Bandage for Sports Injury,Strain,Knee & Wrist,Ankle Sprains & Swelling First Aid


https://a.co/d/gZhn7X2
 
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