Can you still get the real stuff?
I've seen the stuff around but don't use it anymore-
Can you still get the real stuff?
agree, as well as to add there is a bunch of stuff in a major kit that expires and/or needs to be looked at with some regularity.You gotta plan the use case for a kit. If you try and make it do everything it will get too large or complicated. Also consider trauma kits vs first aid kits.
If its going to be in an area where an ambolance isn't but a phone call away all you really need for trauma is a tourniquet, some Israeli or similar bandages and maybe a mask (tho current CPR doctrine says just compressions are enough/better than nothing). You arent going to be stapling skin, putting in an airway, etc before better qualified help arrives. But you are going to need a ton of bandaids, gauze pads, extra wound cleaning, painkillers, tummy meds, etc (in both child and adult versions if you have kids), cold packs, etc. Thats the stuff you will use most of the time, is for the small shit.
If you are going into the backcountry where the nearest help is a sat call and helicopter ride then you need the ability to stabilize the wound enough to work on transport or finding help. Sam splints saved groups I was in more than a couple times, lots of ace bandages. Then the painkiller qty and other stuff becomes less important, just a few basic sizes of bandaids, etc.
For backcountry I would highly recommend a sat device like a inreach or spot over some fancy medical gear. Getting help on the way is priority #1
I didn't think you ever needed moreCan you still get the real stuff?
I may add one of those to the camper kit. I always keep several of the old school butterfly closures in any first aid kit I assemble. I got real good at applying those on myself when I was younger 😉these are sorta new but seem way better then staples. ZZIPS | 2-Pack
This is a bigger bag, full MOLEE coverage so it can be weaved into your gear or ziptied to a rig. Water resistant cordura nylon and built well. bag description:
Three internal pockets - two medium pockets w/velcro closures and one large mesh pocket with a velcro flap
The two main external sides features eight columns by four rows of Molle
Approximately 500 cubic inches
Shoulder Strap is included
Single drain on the bottom of the bag
Comfortable carry handle closes with velcro
Two high quality zippers
External Measurements
Height - 9"
Length - 14"
Depth - 4.75"
Size using a 24ox monster can
Ok now for the kit.
Contains:
1 heavy duty emergency reflective blanket, NOT the cheap mylar crap.
SAM splint
large watergel burn bandage
2 SOF tourniquets
1 skin stapler
1 NAR N95 mask with 2 pair gloves (sealed)
1 pair black talon gloves loose
2 NAR 6" trauma bandages
2 quikclot gauze (expires in OCT, see end statement)
2 cravats
2 3" ace wraps
1 3" Coban wrap
2 rolls asst tape
1 compressed gauze
5 4x4 gauze pads
around 100+ assorted GOOD bandaids (knuckle/finger/normal/big)
tefla pads
triple antibiotic
betadine pads
FULL SIZE pocket mask
nasal airway
chest seal
14ga cath for general stabbing or needle decompression if you have that training.
1 pair GOOD trauma shears
1ea surgical scissors, tweezers, hemostats
2 folding razors (handy!)
LED flashlight
sharpie
chapstick
bug spray
sunblock
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Ok, disclaimers. Sorry the QuikClot expires so soon, but in reality if the vacuum is sealed it should be good for 2+ years over that date. Its dried kayolin, so there is nothing to go "bad". All the newer stuff I found would have added 40 bucks to the cost of the bag. If there is something in the bag you don't know how to use, LEARN!!! I have some great videos under my same screen name on youtube to help educate and amuse you. for example:
If you still don't trust yourself, remove the item. these bags have enough room to customize. and when you get the bag OPEN IT APART! learn what each shit is and how to use it!
See my place above...order what size/contents fit your intended use.There a decent kit a fellow can buy?
I have one somewhere, maybe used a few bandaids out of it in 20 years.
I carry a nurse practitioner everywhere I go. I assume she can fix anything.A stapler is pretty advanced first aid, as are suture kits. They do have their place, I put 18 stitches in the top of my thigh once in the Desolation Wilderness.
Superglue is fine for most things
I carry an ER doc and a kit thats more or less 90% the same as Doc14s above (she looked over his list and liked it enough she didnt change much). So far so goodI carry a nurse practitioner everywhere I go. I assume she can fix anything.
I've bought a few of these and gifted them.
They have a little bit of everything but not a lot of anything. I add a hand full of regular 3/4" Band-Aids to make them more usable.
Can't really buy Narcan anywhere can you? I'd like a epi pen as w ell but they expire and are supposed to be stored in cold.Edit: for car kits you might want to add narcan. Not to save a junkie, but to save yourself/innocents if you accidentally run across fentanyl or such while helping shitheads
You can buy it on Amazon. They give it away around here but the state coddles junkies.Can't really buy Narcan anywhere can you? I'd like a epi pen as w ell but they expire and are supposed to be stored in cold.
I got a MyFAK Mini Pro recently for the vehicle. I like the hard plastic case vs the fabric stuff. I had some prior and they got water damaged.
Can't really buy Narcan anywhere can you? I'd like a epi pen as w ell but they expire and are supposed to be stored in cold.
Unless you are committed to cycling meds out of first aid kits, might consider not carrying light meds like that. They lose effectiveness or go bad with time. I am assuming you mean in the first aid kit additions. If you swap em out based on expiration dates, good on you. Most people forget.Anyone got a good list of meds to have? Realized on a trip earlier this month that it would be good to have a small pouch for my work travel and camping bags. I've got a couple of the Doc14 FAKs for bandages and such already
My list so far:
Tylenol
Goodys powder (I always have these, nothing else can kill a travel headache as quick)
Benadryl
Sudafed
Antacids (tums or is there something better?)
Something for cough
Hydracortizone
Anti-diarrheal
What am I missing. Im also not opposed to order a few "better" things from overseas sources if they are really handy to have.
With 4 of us who travel - they will get used. I'm not looking as much for emergency medicine but stuff that will save a trip from being shitty. First aid is more than just trauma/emergency items.Unless you are committed to cycling meds out of first aid kits, might consider not carrying light meds like that. They lose effectiveness or go bad with time. I am assuming you mean in the first aid kit additions. If you swap em out based on expiration dates, good on you. Most people forget.
If you are talking longer store preps that are kept in good storage conditions.... consider something like Jase Case. If your doctor is a little open minded, you might be able to talk him/her into providing scripts of antivirals and such to keep on hand. You can get stuff from overseas too.
You can live through a headache, but living through an infection when no hospital is safe to visit is a bigger gamble. Not just TEOTWAWKI, think the recent hurricanes that shut all local service down for a while as just an example.