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While I’m not an antivaxxer I do find it laughable that so many here have such a defiant stance on it. “Hurr Durr my body my choice I don’t have to explain myself to you”

The reason people say dumb **** like that is because they don’t make decisions based on reason or logic, but by gut feelings. They CAN’T articulate their reasons but want to justify them with emotional appeal and feelings. “I’m stupid, I’m pissed off and I’m right” is their mentality all while being blissfully unaware of how stupid they sound/look. Go ahead and show your true intelligence by spewing your bull****, it’s obvious that you don’t have two brains cells knocking around in your head in order to form a coherent thought. :flipoff2:

I don’t want the vaccine because I don’t think it’s effective enough and the long term effects are not yet known. I’m not on some moral crusade to “take back ‘Merica” or whatever you stupid ****s are trying to do. How do you think smallpox was eradicated? ****ing vaccines ******s. And once this one is more tested and effective I have no problem taking it. **** you’re supposed to get a tetanus shot every 10 years, not every vaccine is for life. While I agree that corona is no worse than the flu for a lot of people, I’m not one of those dip****s that thinks it’s all a hoax. Now released from a lab in China? Very very possible.

But to extrapolate that into saying “vaccines are bull****” shows the true intellect of a lot of you dumb ****s :flipoff2:
:lmao:who is saying "vaccines are bull****" here?
You misunderstand both yourself and what's going on here.
Your analogy of 2 brain cells is also ironic as ****:laughing:
 
While I’m not an antivaxxer I do find it laughable that so many here have such a defiant stance on it. “Hurr Durr my body my choice I don’t have to explain myself to you”

The reason people say dumb **** like that is because they don’t make decisions based on reason or logic, but by gut feelings. They CAN’T articulate their reasons but want to justify them with emotional appeal and feelings. “I’m stupid, I’m pissed off and I’m right” is their mentality all while being blissfully unaware of how stupid they sound/look. Go ahead and show your true intelligence by spewing your bull****, it’s obvious that you don’t have two brains cells knocking around in your head in order to form a coherent thought. :flipoff2:

I don’t want the vaccine because I don’t think it’s effective enough and the long term effects are not yet known. I’m not on some moral crusade to “take back ‘Merica” or whatever you stupid ****s are trying to do. How do you think smallpox was eradicated? ****ing vaccines ******s. And once this one is more tested and effective I have no problem taking it. **** you’re supposed to get a tetanus shot every 10 years, not every vaccine is for life. While I agree that corona is no worse than the flu for a lot of people, I’m not one of those dip****s that thinks it’s all a hoax. Now released from a lab in China? Very very possible.

But to extrapolate that into saying “vaccines are bull****” shows the true intellect of a lot of you dumb ****s :flipoff2:
I skimmed your post. It was the same as always. A lot of self admiration and grandiosity. We get it, you think highly of yourself and you spend most of your time attempting to prove how awesome you are.
Its pathetic because you are not nearly as intelligent as you think you are and its quite obvious.
No reasoning to you or with this government is needed.
It really is my body, my choice. My choice needs no approval from you. I will defend my body from intrusions with lethal force. I'm tired of attempting to have a rational discussion about such an irrational product (the vaccine). There is no more debate. I'm not getting the damn thing. So **** off or pop off. Your choice.
 
I skimmed your post. It was the same as always. A lot of self admiration and grandiosity. We get it, you think highly of yourself and you spend most of your time attempting to prove how awesome you are.
Its pathetic because you are not nearly as intelligent as you think you are and its quite obvious.
No reasoning to you or with this government is needed.
It really is my body, my choice. My choice needs no approval from you. I will defend my body from intrusions with lethal force. I'm tired of attempting to have a rational discussion about such an irrational product (the vaccine). There is no more debate. I'm not getting the damn thing. So **** off or pop off. Your choice.


You don’t have to justify anything to anyone, including yourself. But if you yourself can’t give a logical reason beyond “**** you I’m not getting it” it shows you don’t really think much or examine things.

Every position I hold I can explain both to myself and to anyone that asks. IMO if you’re not constantly questioning yourself and the opinions you hold , and cannot justify them to yourself in your own head (you’re right in that what anyone else says doesn’t matter) you’re a ******.
 
Remember when the FDA approved Quaaludes, which are now considered a Schedule 1 drug like heroin?

The FDA also approved DES, a "synthetic form of estrogen, was marketed to the expecting mother who preferred to have a healthy baby. It claimed to prevent spontaneous abortion, miscarriage, and premature labor. Studies soon showed that mothers who took DES during the first five months of pregnancy were more likely to suffer from complications with their reproductive systems. The FDA finally banned it in 1971."

The FDA approved Vioxx, "an anti-inflammatory medication intended to treat arthritis, was the subject of one of the largest recalls in history. After it was approved in 1999, it was prescribed to over 20 million people and was one of the most widely prescribed drugs of 2003. The following year, it was recalled. One of the FDA’s own scientists, Dr. David Graham, estimated that Vioxx had been associated with more than 27,000 heart attacks or deaths linked to cardiac problems."

There are many more examples that you can research yourself. The bottom line is that this is predicatably being used as an excuse for the government and employers to force experimential vaccinations on people.
:stirthepot:
Bextro, Fen-Phen, Chantix, Terfenadine, Posicor, Rezulin, PPA, Baycol, Cylert, Duract, Ergamisol, Accutane, Meridia, Seldane, Rezulin, Raptiva, Lipobay, Tylenol (due to potassium cyanide), Darvon, Omniflox, Palladone. The list goes on. Many of these were on the market for 50+ years.

Hell, the current recalls page on the FDA site has nearly 400 entries.
 
Eviltwat and JimmyNumbaws! in the same thread, and pitching the same ideology? The AW and the Narcissist... cool.

trampas Do we have a classics forum yet? :laughing:

Someone (Me) has to break up the ****** circle jerk that goes on here with some reason. You know, reason? The thing that makes your tiny little brains hurt because they haven’t been used in years. Pretty obvious that some of you meander through life basing decisions on feelings. You know, like liberals and the woke SJW’s :flipoff2:

Never once did I say that the vaccine should be mandated or that it was effective. I don’t believe it is at this point.

The only thing that ****ting on me does is show how averse some of you ****ers are to having your beliefs questioned. One person comes in here and doesn’t toe the line and they get massive amounts of ****. “**** you don’t make me think!!!”

You guys fail to see that you are no different than Reddit or any other forum where like minded individuals gather, it always turns into a circle jerk. Always.
 
Someone (Me) has to break up the ****** circle jerk that goes on here with some reason. You know, reason? The thing that makes your tiny little brains hurt because they haven’t been used in years. Pretty obvious that some of you meander through life basing decisions on feelings. You know, like liberals and the woke SJW’s :flipoff2:

Never once did I say that the vaccine should be mandated or that it was effective. I don’t believe it is at this point.

The only thing that ****ting on me does is show how averse some of you ****ers are to having your beliefs questioned. One person comes in here and doesn’t toe the line and they get massive amounts of ****. “**** you don’t make me think!!!”

You guys fail to see that you are no different than Reddit or any other forum where like minded individuals gather, it always turns into a circle jerk. Always.
I think you misunderstood me.... the ideology I was referring to is "idiocy".

:laughing:

You also need to be patted on the back and recognized for your superb intellect. And if people don't get it, well it obviously MUST be explained to them... and there is obviously nobody more capable of giving them this knowledge than you. The one, the only JimmyNumbaws!

Never have I seen two more confidence lacking, completely oblivious, self absorbed useful idiots. :flipoff2:

As for you specifically, you do realize people see through that thin veneer of inflated ego to mask the fact you are literally crumbing inside without acknowledgment of your superiority, right?

In your quest to highlight all the foolishness of the "dumbasses", you seemed to have glossed over your own. Takes a pretty weak man to not exercise humility and self examine.

But hey, da fawk do I know?
 
I think you misunderstood me.... the ideology I was referring to is "idiocy".

:laughing:

You also need to be patted on the back and recognized for your superb intellect. And if people don't get it, well it obviously MUST be explained to them... and there is obviously nobody more capable of giving them this knowledge than you. The one, the only JimmyNumbaws!

Never have I seen two more confidence lacking, completely oblivious, self absorbed useful idiots. :flipoff2:

As for you specifically, you do realize people see through that thin veneer of inflated ego to mask the fact you are literally crumbing inside without acknowledgment of your superiority, right?

In your quest to highlight all the foolishness of the "dumbasses", you seemed to have glossed over your own. Takes a pretty weak man to not exercise humility and self examine.

But hey, da fawk do I know?
You know Jimmy numbawwwws don't need introspection, his mom did that for him already:shaking:
 
You don’t have to justify anything to anyone, including yourself. But if you yourself can’t give a logical reason beyond “**** you I’m not getting it” it shows you don’t really think much or examine things.

Every position I hold I can explain both to myself and to anyone that asks. IMO if you’re not constantly questioning yourself and the opinions you hold , and cannot justify them to yourself in your own head (you’re right in that what anyone else says doesn’t matter) you’re a ******.
I can logically explain to myself, and I have posed those very questions here in countless threads. Roc doc even started numbering them for you mushminded folk that thought you were starting an original thread. This topic has been beat to death. Discussed for the past year at least. No minds are being changed towards the vaxx.
If anything, the constant shilling and force and control are pushing people away from it.
I'm constantly adjusting my views to the evidence at hand.
And my questions from the beginning of this damn thing have not been answered, despite searching for answers. There is no rationality to whats going on because its driven by fear emotions. Emotions are not rational, so expecting a rational debate about a topic that has emotionally cucked so many hasn't necessarily been an exercise in futility, but damn is it draining and gets ****ing old.
Your questions are not original.
Your debate topics are not original.
You are a dumpster bin of recycled materials, dumping your **** covered load across irate whenever the wind blows.
 
This might make companies uncomfortable:
* "If an employer requires its employees to be vaccinated, adverse reactions to the vaccines are considered “work-related” by OSHA."
 
Question for any expert on the subject:

Has it ever happened before in history, ever, where a drug was given Emergency Authorization AND Approval at the same time?
 
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's most likely a duck no matter how many times the Left, their Marxist Stream Media and Socialist Media "Big Tech" partners attempt to gas-light ("fact-check") and tell us that it's a monkey. Simple math, 2 + 2 does not equal 5 no matter how many times the politicians, (so-called) "reporters / journalists" and Hollywood/other celebrities tell us 2 + 2 = 5.

When it comes to the (not a) vaccine and (not a) pandemic, things are not adding up at all!

Why did the media overhype this virus from the very beginning? Showing us images of full hospitals, emergency room waiting lines out the door and around the corner, "emergency" tents set up to handle the overflow of people trying to "check in." Meanwhile a citizen reporter swings by the next day and the emergency room is completely empty, there's no lines and the "emergency" tents sitting completely empty and unattended. MSM getting "busted" (more than once) for showing a hospital in Italy as being a "local hospital."

Why were the infection counts overinflated from the very beginning? People who signed up to get tested, but gave up and went home before actually being tested told that their test came back positive (happened to more than one person that I know personally). Tests used on a sheep, a goat and a pawpaw (fruit) came back positive.

Why were the death counts overinflated from the very beginning? Only 6% of people that died "from Covid" had no other underlying health conditions (and I have yet to see what the age demographic for this 6% was, but I'm betting the vast majority were 75 or older). People who died from an accident were reported as "Covid deaths."

Why were decisions made to intentionally make it worse? Censoring information about Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin when both were shown to have positive and effective results. Executive orders prohibiting the prescription of the aforementioned. Pushing medical facilities to use ventilators instead of O2 even after it was shown that this can make it worse and that O2 was a better alternative. Pushing infected into nursing homes amongst the most vulnerable in our society.

Why was any physician, nurse or other medical professional censored, threatened and even fired for speaking out against what was going on? Videos posted to YouTube were nearly instantly removed. Links to articles and videos in FaceBook and Twitter posts were "fact-checked" and sometimes even accounts were suspended (I was suspended for having the audacity to post an article showing the ineffectiveness of masks).

Why was the rushed, experimental vaccine pushed on the majority of the population when the majority of the population has a 99.7% survival rate (even using the inflated numbers)? Why has the vaccine been granted FDA approval even though "clinical trials" are not yet even completed, much less the normal process for vaccine approval. Why were the companies making the vaccine granted immunity?

What are the long term effects going to be? Why is the vaccine being pushed on people who are of child-bearing and pre-child-bearing age? Why are known Eugenicists involved with the vaccine? Why is a known Eugenicist who is also wanted for Crimes against Humanity in other countries for "complications" arising from previous "vaccines" pushing the vaccine? What are the long term effects of the earlier vaccines that had the aforementioned "complications"? Why are some of the girls involved in those experiments unable to have children?

Way to many questions and no legitimate answers; just lots of gas-lighting, suppression and censorship. Nothing is adding up the way they say it is no matter how many times they tell us 2 + 2 = 5.
 
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's most likely a duck no matter how many times the Left, their Marxist Stream Media and Socialist Media "Big Tech" partners attempt to gas-light ("fact-check") and tell us that it's a monkey. Simple math, 2 + 2 does not equal 5 no matter how many times the politicians, (so-called) "reporters / journalists" and Hollywood/other celebrities tell us 2 + 2 = 5.

When it comes to the (not a) vaccine and (not a) pandemic, things are not adding up at all!

Why did the media overhype this virus from the very beginning? Showing us images of full hospitals, emergency room waiting lines out the door and around the corner, "emergency" tents set up to handle the overflow of people trying to "check in." Meanwhile a citizen reporter swings by the next day and the emergency room is completely empty, there's no lines and the "emergency" tents sitting completely empty and unattended. MSM getting "busted" (more than once) for showing a hospital in Italy as being a "local hospital."

Why were the infection counts overinflated from the very beginning? People who signed up to get tested, but gave up and went home before actually being tested told that their test came back positive (happened to more than one person that I know personally). Tests used on a sheep, a goat and a pawpaw (fruit) came back positive.

Why were the death counts overinflated from the very beginning? Only 6% of people that died "from Covid" had no other underlying health conditions (and I have yet to see what the age demographic for this 6% was, but I'm betting the vast majority were 75 or older). People who died from an accident were reported as "Covid deaths."

Why were decisions made to intentionally make it worse? Censoring information about Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin when both were shown to have positive and effective results. Executive orders prohibiting the prescription of the aforementioned. Pushing medical facilities to use ventilators instead of O2 even after it was shown that this can make it worse and that O2 was a better alternative. Pushing infected into nursing homes amongst the most vulnerable in our society.

Why was any physician, nurse or other medical professional censored, threatened and even fired for speaking out against what was going on? Videos posted to YouTube were nearly instantly removed. Links to articles and videos in FaceBook and Twitter posts were "fact-checked" and sometimes even accounts were suspended (I was suspended for having the audacity to post an article showing the ineffectiveness of masks).

Why was the rushed, experimental vaccine pushed on the majority of the population when the majority of the population has a 99.7% survival rate (even using the inflated numbers)? Why has the vaccine been granted FDA approval even though "clinical trials" are not yet even completed, much less the normal process for vaccine approval. Why were the companies making the vaccine granted immunity?

What are the long term effects going to be? Why is the vaccine being pushed on people who are of child-bearing and pre-child-bearing age? Why are known Eugenicists involved with the vaccine? Why is a known Eugenicist who is also wanted for Crimes against Humanity in other countries for "complications" arising from previous "vaccines" pushing the vaccine? What are the long term effects of the earlier vaccines that had the aforementioned "complications"? Why are some of the girls involved in those experiments unable to have children?

Way to many questions and no legitimate answers; just lots of gas-lighting, suppression and censorship. Nothing is adding up the way they say it is no matter how many times they tell us 2 + 2 = 5.
It's simple really.
It did one thing, turn everyone against each other, especially over semantics.
It's bad enough that it is making this board turn on each other. Look what I've been dealing with, the "muh constitutional rights" parrots keep saying they can't mandate the vax, yet there are plenty of places doing just that. My replies had nothing to do with the Constitution, only with the fact that there are governmental bodies making the vax mandatory for whatever sects of workers they can control...
division, that's all it ever was, and it's working in their favor perfectly.
 
It's simple really.
It did one thing, turn everyone against each other, especially over semantics.
It's bad enough that it is making this board turn on each other. Look what I've been dealing with, the "muh constitutional rights" parrots keep saying they can't mandate the vax, yet there are plenty of places doing just that. My replies had nothing to do with the Constitution, only with the fact that there are governmental bodies making the vax mandatory for whatever sects of workers they can control...
division, that's all it ever was, and it's working in their favor perfectly.
Yes. There is a big difference between what the Corrupt.gov is doing vs what is Constitutional. I fear that soon we will have to exercise the 2nd or lose the whole thing.

Racism is now being considered part of the "health care crisis," how long until the Left tries to bring firearms under that same umbrella.

I also agree wholeheartedly with the fact that "the powers that be" are actively trying to divide us and get us to fight amongst ourselves. I even mentioned it here: The "Jedi Mind Tricks" of the Mainstream Media


I will say this, if it does come down to a civil war due to the division that has been pushed then someone needs to make sure that those who did the dividing (from top to bottom) end up with their heads on a pike. That didn't happen in Civil War 1.0, instead those who were really behind the division ended getting richer, with the Fed Govt indebt to them.
 
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Total deaths worldwide have not seen the spike that they claim as "excess deaths".
It's difficult to get numbers, year by year, because your search shows the agenda propaganda of claiming Covid up and down, but if you dig hard enough you'll find it.

Even the moron "fact checkers" flopped their **** with a pathetic attempt to discredit the DATA:
"But the comparison is flawed for a few reasons. The 2020 statistics cited are not the final figures, and the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention has estimated that hundreds of thousands of excess American deaths are attributed to the virus this year. Lastly, it ignores that COVID-19 has killed over 290,000 Americans to-date, the highest virus death toll in the world."

290,000 dead = highest virus deathtoll, huh fact checkers? Why do you not check yourself while you pretend Spanish Flu never happened.
All credibility is lost with idiots like this.
 
Yes. There is a big difference between what the Corrupt.gov is doing vs what is Constitutional. I fear that soon we will have to exercise the 2nd or lose the whole thing.

Racism is now being considered part of the "health care crisis," how long until the Left tries to bring firearms under that same umbrella.

I also agree wholeheartedly with the fact that "the powers that be" are actively trying to divide us and get us to fight amongst ourselves. I even mentioned it here: The "Jedi Mind Tricks" of the Mainstream Media


I will say this, if it does come down to a civil war due to the division that has been pushed. Someone needs to make sure that those who did the dividing (from top to bottom) end up with their heads on a pike. That didn't happen in Civil War 1.0, instead those who were really behind the division ended getting richer, with the Fed Govt indebt to them.
As to guns under the healthcare crisis. So many have already forgot Obummer put the CDC in charge of studying gun violence...
 
Until you have family members dying. Or end up in the ICU.
Then those 2% are suddenly VERY REAL.

Jeez, stop with your Hitleresque "cull the herd of weak" ****. Stop gobbling up the right's propaganda.
My brother died from it early on.

My whole immediate family caught it last November and barely had the sniffles.

I miss my brother, but I'm not scared of it.
 
Total deaths worldwide have not seen the spike that they claim as "excess deaths".
It's difficult to get numbers, year by year, because your search shows the agenda propaganda of claiming Covid up and down, but if you dig hard enough you'll find it.

Even the moron "fact checkers" flopped their **** with a pathetic attempt to discredit the DATA:
"But the comparison is flawed for a few reasons. The 2020 statistics cited are not the final figures, and the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention has estimated that hundreds of thousands of excess American deaths are attributed to the virus this year. Lastly, it ignores that COVID-19 has killed over 290,000 Americans to-date, the highest virus death toll in the world."

290,000 dead = highest virus deathtoll, huh fact checkers? Why do you not check yourself while you pretend Spanish Flu never happened.
All credibility is lost with idiots like this.

Covid19™ has killed more Americans in America than in any other country.
 
freedom is only freedom when all people are protected from harm
  1. NO :homer:
  2. YOU'RE AS WRONG AS WRONG COULD POSSIBLY BE
  3. Protecting all people from harm is the opposite of freedom
  4. You cannot protect all people from harm- ever, at all, period
  5. Trying to "protect all people from harm" is freedom tyranny
  6. You're a delusional, projecting, scared little commie ****tard
Seriously, Klaus - did your parents have any children that lived? :confused:

Sorry, but all of life has risks from which you cannot be protected.
You should opt out before life kills you :flipoff2:
 
Eviltwat is trolling the hell out of yall:lmao:
Considering he made over 70% of the posts on page 7, a few were bound to get a response.
EDIT: ackshually 60% - I wanna' see if any mothfukles GAF enough to "fact check" :fo2:
What he lacks in valid points and truth, he makes up for in sheer desperation for attention. :laughing:
 
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ETA: From a friend in the medical industry

Current clot shot is NOT FDA APPROVED. The approval is for one that it not on the market yet. Read the following from a friends sister who works for big Pharma:


An important distinction here.

If this reading is right, only vaccine released from today can be considered approved & it must have it’s approved name on the vial.
Appallingly, apparently it’s possible to mandate it. And the manufacturer has product liability.

All distributed stock is still covered by EUA, cannot be mandated & we carry the can.

It may be a long time before bulk licensed product is out there. Tell them to sling their hook meanwhile.

Mike

For the US: Read the FDA approval letter please. This is how they scam you, by making it nearly impenetrable. Below, I identify the two most relevant passages. The rest of the letter is repetitive blather to keep your head spinning. https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

page 2 last line, footnote: here FDA quietly admits that the licened Pfizer vaccine and the authorized Pfizer vaccine are identical w.r.t. safety and efficacy, but they are "legally distinct." That's code for one has manufacturer liability, while the other doesn't. It is also code for "we don't want to impose a mandate on the EUA product 'cause it is illegal, but we can probably get away with a mandate on the licensed product."

page 12 AA. This tells you that yes, we licensed the vaccine, but...there is a lot of the old vaccine out there, actually "a significant amount" and this amount will be considered an EUA vaccine and will continue to be used. Maybe for a very long time.

Now, why would they do that? Why specify that identical versions of the product will be legally different? Because they need the license to impose the mandates. But they need the EUA to evade liability.

Along with the license comes liability for the manufacturer. (But all EUA products were given a liability shield.)

Unfortunately, our federal overlords would prefer us to be without recourse if we are injured, rather than have Pfizer risk defending its product in court.

So, my inference is that the feds want the public to THINK the vaccine they are receiving is licensed, which will make people submit because they believe it can now be mandated, but instead the public is almost certain to receive the EUA vials instead, to save Pfizer's behind.

You will be able to tell the difference when you see the vaccine vial. The letter explains that the COMIRNATY-labelled vials will be the licensed ones, and the others (under EUA) will say something like Pfizer BioNTech Covid-19 Vaccine without the brand name COMIRNATY.

Yes, a stingy CICP injury program exists, which I have previously written about, but it has not paid out for a single Covid vaccine injury, last time I checked.

How did I figure this out? Because I have read other FDA approval letters, and this one had significant weasel wording. And I have seen other FDA tricks. So it just took me awhile to identify what was being hidden. I could be wrong. But then we would need another explanation for the language in the approval letter. I'm happy to entertain other interpretations. --Meryl Nass, MD

P.S. Pfizer made $33 billion so far this year on its mRNA vaccine.
 
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