FDA Approved

Thefishguy77 said:
ETA: From a friend in the medical industry

Current clot shot is NOT FDA APPROVED. The approval is for one that it not on the market yet. Read the following from a friends sister who works for big Pharma:


An important distinction here.

If this reading is right, only vaccine released from today can be considered approved & it must have it’s approved name on the vial.
Appallingly, apparently it’s possible to mandate it. And the manufacturer has product liability.

All distributed stock is still covered by EUA, cannot be mandated & we carry the can.

It may be a long time before bulk licensed product is out there. Tell them to sling their hook meanwhile.

Mike

For the US: Read the FDA approval letter please. This is how they scam you, by making it nearly impenetrable. Below, I identify the two most relevant passages. The rest of the letter is repetitive blather to keep your head spinning. https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

page 2 last line, footnote: here FDA quietly admits that the licened Pfizer vaccine and the authorized Pfizer vaccine are identical w.r.t. safety and efficacy, but they are "legally distinct." That's code for one has manufacturer liability, while the other doesn't. It is also code for "we don't want to impose a mandate on the EUA product 'cause it is illegal, but we can probably get away with a mandate on the licensed product."

page 12 AA. This tells you that yes, we licensed the vaccine, but...there is a lot of the old vaccine out there, actually "a significant amount" and this amount will be considered an EUA vaccine and will continue to be used. Maybe for a very long time.

Now, why would they do that? Why specify that identical versions of the product will be legally different? Because they need the license to impose the mandates. But they need the EUA to evade liability.

Along with the license comes liability for the manufacturer. (But all EUA products were given a liability shield.)

Unfortunately, our federal overlords would prefer us to be without recourse if we are injured, rather than have Pfizer risk defending its product in court.

So, my inference is that the feds want the public to THINK the vaccine they are receiving is licensed, which will make people submit because they believe it can now be mandated, but instead the public is almost certain to receive the EUA vials instead, to save Pfizer's behind.

You will be able to tell the difference when you see the vaccine vial. The letter explains that the COMIRNATY-labelled vials will be the licensed ones, and the others (under EUA) will say something like Pfizer BioNTech Covid-19 Vaccine without the brand name COMIRNATY.

Yes, a stingy CICP injury program exists, which I have previously written about, but it has not paid out for a single Covid vaccine injury, last time I checked.

How did I figure this out? Because I have read other FDA approval letters, and this one had significant weasel wording. And I have seen other FDA tricks. So it just took me awhile to identify what was being hidden. I could be wrong. But then we would need another explanation for the language in the approval letter. I'm happy to entertain other interpretations. --Meryl Nass, MD

P.S. Pfizer made $33 billion so far this year on its mRNA vaccine.
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Wow, this is HUGE! So how many people are going to take it now and think they have some protection or recourse against future damages?

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Thefishguy77 said:
ETA: From a friend in the medical industry

Current clot shot is NOT FDA APPROVED. The approval is for one that it not on the market yet. Read the following from a friends sister who works for big Pharma:


An important distinction here.

If this reading is right, only vaccine released from today can be considered approved & it must have it’s approved name on the vial.
Appallingly, apparently it’s possible to mandate it. And the manufacturer has product liability.

All distributed stock is still covered by EUA, cannot be mandated & we carry the can.

It may be a long time before bulk licensed product is out there. Tell them to sling their hook meanwhile.

Mike

For the US: Read the FDA approval letter please. This is how they scam you, by making it nearly impenetrable. Below, I identify the two most relevant passages. The rest of the letter is repetitive blather to keep your head spinning. https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

page 2 last line, footnote: here FDA quietly admits that the licened Pfizer vaccine and the authorized Pfizer vaccine are identical w.r.t. safety and efficacy, but they are "legally distinct." That's code for one has manufacturer liability, while the other doesn't. It is also code for "we don't want to impose a mandate on the EUA product 'cause it is illegal, but we can probably get away with a mandate on the licensed product."

page 12 AA. This tells you that yes, we licensed the vaccine, but...there is a lot of the old vaccine out there, actually "a significant amount" and this amount will be considered an EUA vaccine and will continue to be used. Maybe for a very long time.

Now, why would they do that? Why specify that identical versions of the product will be legally different? Because they need the license to impose the mandates. But they need the EUA to evade liability.

Along with the license comes liability for the manufacturer. (But all EUA products were given a liability shield.)

Unfortunately, our federal overlords would prefer us to be without recourse if we are injured, rather than have Pfizer risk defending its product in court.

So, my inference is that the feds want the public to THINK the vaccine they are receiving is licensed, which will make people submit because they believe it can now be mandated, but instead the public is almost certain to receive the EUA vials instead, to save Pfizer's behind.

You will be able to tell the difference when you see the vaccine vial. The letter explains that the COMIRNATY-labelled vials will be the licensed ones, and the others (under EUA) will say something like Pfizer BioNTech Covid-19 Vaccine without the brand name COMIRNATY.

Yes, a stingy CICP injury program exists, which I have previously written about, but it has not paid out for a single Covid vaccine injury, last time I checked.

How did I figure this out? Because I have read other FDA approval letters, and this one had significant weasel wording. And I have seen other FDA tricks. So it just took me awhile to identify what was being hidden. I could be wrong. But then we would need another explanation for the language in the approval letter. I'm happy to entertain other interpretations. --Meryl Nass, MD

P.S. Pfizer made $33 billion so far this year on its mRNA vaccine.
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This makes the most sense to me

we are the blind leading the blind
 
From a friend that sells the ****:

If it doesn’t say Comirnaty on the bottle is technically not approved. Comirnaty isn’t even on the market yet. Most companies and people were duped into it as the MSM and Pfizer are pieces of ****.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
From a friend that sells the ****:

If it doesn’t say Comirnaty on the bottle is technically not approved. Comirnaty isn’t even on the market yet. Most companies and people were duped into it as the MSM and Pfizer are pieces of ****.
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Odds in fauci being associated with the new brand?
 
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Comirnaty is not in the US yet. Maybe both companies have an agreement to develop it together?

* The licensed vaccine has the same formulation as the EUA-authorized vaccine and the products can be used interchangeably to provide the vaccination series without presenting any safety or effectiveness concerns. The products are legally distinct with certain differences that do not impact safety or effectiveness.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
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P.S. Pfizer made $33 billion so far this year on its mRNA vaccine.
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The estimated cumulative financial costs of the COVID-19 pandemic related to the lost output and health reduction are shown in the Table. The total cost is estimated at more than $16 trillion, or approximately 90% of the annual gross domestic product of the US. For a family of 4, the estimated loss would be nearly $200 000. Approximately half of this amount is the lost income from the COVID-19–induced recession; the remainder is the economic effects of shorter and less healthy life.
 
ev13wt said:
The estimated cumulative financial costs of the COVID-19 pandemic related to the lost output and health reduction are shown in the Table. The total cost is estimated at more than $16 trillion, or approximately 90% of the annual gross domestic product of the US. For a family of 4, the estimated loss would be nearly $200 000. Approximately half of this amount is the lost income from the COVID-19–induced recession; the remainder is the economic effects of shorter and less healthy life.
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So, you think the response to covid (shutdowns, etc) were just responsible for half, but old retired people dying is responsible for the other half
 
Kyle said:
Literally from the CDC vaers data. More people died from the vaccine than total participants in the study used to “approve” it.
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thats not what i have read, looks like the VAERS deaths is in the sub10k range, and the study included 44k people?
 
Kyle said:
Literally from the CDC vaers data. More people died from the vaccine than total participants in the study used to “approve” it.
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Again: VAERS death count has pretty much nothing to do with "died from the vaccine". Stop believing conspiracy bs.
 
ev13wt said:
Again: VAERS death count has pretty much nothing to do with "died from the vaccine". Stop believing conspiracy bs.
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so where do we find the "real" death count for the vaccine? or are you just going with 0?

mind you the FDA "approval" requires VAERS reporting...
 
FleshEater said:
What?

Can you rephrase this? I think I know what you’re saying but want to be sure.
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I am reading that breakthrough cases of covid causing death are .001 in vaccinated people.
(of course im having a hard time finding/linking the source now that im spouting off)

If you were to go back to december last year and divide total covid deaths into the total us population you would get a smaller number.
 
ev13wt said:
4. I'm gonna go with 4.

Even if it's 6K, that is still waaaay less deadly than the 98% survival rate - to date
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FIFY

fda only monitored these vaccine recipients for 2 months post vaccine.

for covid

absolutely no data on the effectiveness on ANY of the variants.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
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LOL. GMO canola oil is processed exactly like non-GMO canola oil, and not much different than coconut oil. The differences being because coconuts need a slightly different approach to get oil out of them compared to rapeseed (canola is a variety of rapeseed).

And yes, coconut oil does have more saturated fats than canola or pretty much every other seed oil out there. That makes it a bit unique in the plant based oil department and that's why the FDA put out a notice for people watching their saturated fat intake.


But don't let that interrupt your ignorance is strength rally.
 
TheFlyingDildocupine said:
LOL. GMO canola oil is processed exactly like non-GMO canola oil, and not much different than coconut oil. The differences being because coconuts need a slightly different approach to get oil out of them compared to rapeseed (canola is a variety of rapeseed).

And yes, coconut oil does have more saturated fats than canola or pretty much every other seed oil out there. That makes it a bit unique in the plant based oil department and that's why the FDA put out a notice for people watching their saturated fat intake.


But don't let that interrupt your ignorance is strength rally.
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Where have you been for the last few months and any chance you can go back?
 
bgaidan said:
Where have you been for the last few months and any chance you can go back?
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Developing new techniques to make sure your food oils are what they say they are and not spoiled. You're welcome.

I'd say I'm sorry for interrupting your circle jerk, but I'm not.
 
I’m now at 8 people I know with covid in the last few months. 7 were fully vaccinated. The other I’m not sure about. I would guess she wasn’t vaccinated but that’s just my educated guess.
 
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