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Ethically sourced consumer goods?

It's funny watching dipshits running around saying fuck China while waving their dollar store Chinese made American flags.:laughing:

Edit: while usually driving muliti colored Toyotas. :flipoff2:
 
dntsdad said:
I buy cage free eggs. They cost almost double and I eat 6 eggs a day.....every morning

I saw a thing on the news one night about chickens being in these tiny cages where they can't even turn around to pump out eggs till they die.

Stuck with me, Never bought eggs that aren't labeled Caged Free ever again
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My great grandparents owned an egg farm. As a kid we used to roam around through row upon row upon row of chickens in tiny cages pumping out eggs. I didn’t care then and I don’t care now.
 
I dont care about the "fair trade" or that feel good garbage. Some studies have shown that fair trade decreases money going to the end employees. I also don't care about "minority owned", "profits donated to x". None of that speaks to the quality of the product.

I do avoid products made in china or other countries where they dont care about basic pollution reduction and knowingly cheat trade laws and practices. Helps that they also usually cut corners and have a worse product. "Veteran owned" or "FF/LEO owned" can help as those groups generally care more about a good product.
 
CenCon said:
"Ethically Sourced" is flavor of the day buzzword. Made to make a consumer feel warm and fuzzy.

Somebody needs to put Country of Origin on all the meat we consume. I guarantee that will make most feel cold and queasy.
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my local meat market will tell you what field the cow came from.
 
I can give a real world example, I sold 2 different fenders, one Made in USA out of the OWN tooling ($300) and one made it taiwan ($150).
Everyone begged for a made in USA fender, so we got one.
We sold the Taiwan fender 500:1.
 
My ethics are different and they aren't the primary decision maker.

Most of the times (utilitarian purchase)-looking for value.

1. Will this last me as long as I want to use it? Or alternatively does this last longer than typical shit on the market.
2. What's the cost of the item vs cheap shit on the market? Then I'm looking at ratios 3 times as long for twice as much, all over it. Twice as nice to use for twice as much? Yep. More money and just as shitty, that is a bucket of nope.
3. Assuming there is more than one option remaining, we get into my morality, fuck what gen society defines as moral.

Does this company openly get involved at all with politics as in donate generically to one party or the other? lost some value for me.
Does this company try to restrict my access to public lands? lost value to me
Does this company restrict any of my constitutional rights or support groups who do? Lost value for me

Gaining is tougher,
Preferred hiring of vets especially veteran owned? gain some value
Locally owned? Gained some value


I can't think of a way to give fewer or less valuable shits about how happy Juan is picking my coffee beans or what happens to his family when they aren't picking my beans or how many goats they have to milk. What I want is some coffee in my cup that doesn't taste like someone dipped their sweaty socks in it because they think bitter = strong.
 
welndmn said:
I can give a real world example, I sold 2 different fenders, one Made in USA out of the OWN tooling ($300) and one made it taiwan ($150).
Everyone begged for a made in USA fender, so we got one.
We sold the Taiwan fender 500:1.
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Yep...everyone talks a good game until they have to crack that wallet open.
 
kf4zht said:
I also don't care about "minority owned", "profits donated to x". None of that speaks to the quality of the product.
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It also just raises the price of the product with a donation you didn't agree to. If a company donates money to something, it doesn't come out of the employee's salary or company profits, it is paid through higher prices. When you seek out an "ethical" company that does lots of "good" with donations, you are just spending extra to support someone else's causes. I would rather they just produced a good product for the lowest price and let me make the donations to the organizations I choose.

The one exception is a company that encourages staff to do community service or volunteer work on their own time. That I would support. I do it myself.
 
Buy USA? That may work for something you intend to use long term. What about that tool you plan to use 1 or 2 times, but saves you from having to hire a guy? There aren't Harbor Freight stores for cheap US made tools.

Besides, what I have found on my researching is that even most of the "made in USA" stuff is just assembled here from parts that originate overseas. So, is that really made in the USA? What percentage of "Made here" acceptable to you? 10% USA is ok? Do you really want to do this kind of research for every purchase? Just stick with the USA sticker and live oblivious and feel superior? Whatever works for you.
 
I have found recently it's no-t that hard and there IS a choice to purchase ei0ther China or non China. You have to make it. My new panties and boots are fro-m Viet Namo.
 
I don't buy from trail gear and don't go to wal mart. Chain restaurants are out and I usually try to stick to mom and pop hardware stores.
 
I try not to buy from companies who outsource and didn't drop the price. If I'm buying Chinese shit I want it at Chinese shit prices. On that note outsourcing for simple goods bothers me less than it used to because people with money tend to think more like Americans and so outsourcing widgets anyone can make to third world countries allows those people to spend their time making money and not making war or plotting terrorism.

I also avoid any company that wants to force me to use their app. I will consider downloading your app if it's life changing, otherwise fuck you and your trackers just so I can look at your stores inventory.
 
No, btw no...

Fuck fair trade BS.

Its a part of sustainable development which is a branch of agenda 21/30.
 
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