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Mikel

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So it used to be that your ability to borrow money was based on you record of paying money back on time (plus some voodoo). Many institutions are now using ESG scores, which they describe as

Environmental, Social, and Corporate Governance (ESG) data refers to metrics related to intangible assets within the enterprise, a form of corporate social credit score. Research shows that intangible assets comprise an increasing percentage of future enterprise value.[1][2] While there are many ways to think of intangible asset metrics, these three central factors together, ESG, comprise a label that has been adopted throughout the United States financial industry. They are used for a myriad of specific purposes with the ultimate objective of measuring elements related to sustainability and societal impact of a company or business.[3]
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I'm sure that having one's access to credit depend on how closely one adheres to progressive policies is not going to end badly.
 
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Mikel said:
Most people look at FDR as the most transformative president (in destroying the limited government model of the Founders), but it was LBJ who made a big chunk of American society permanent dependents of the state.
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While thats true we took a hard left that changed the way Americans felt about our country on a scale never seen before and it wasn't good.
 
rockmup said:
While thats true we took a hard left that changed the way Americans felt about our country on a scale never seen before and it wasn't good.
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I think that was child's play compared to what FDR did in the 30s. He dramatically expanded the size and power of the federal government, crippled the nation's federalist model and trained Americans to look at government for the solution to their problems (which more often than not, were created by government).

The things FDR did would make Bernie blush like a little girl.
 
Mikel said:
I think that was child's play compared to what FDR did in the 30s. He dramatically expanded the size and power of the federal government, crippled the nation's federalist model and trained Americans to look at government for the solution to their problems (which more often than not, were created by government).

The things FDR did would make Bernie blush like a little girl.
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Dunno man, was it him or was he just a puppet as modern leaders are pretty transparent in being?

whole lotta authoritarian socialism going around in the '20s and '30s the world over...
 
Mikel said:
I think that was child's play compared to what FDR did in the 30s. He dramatically expanded the size and power of the federal government, crippled the nation's federalist model and trained Americans to look at government for the solution to their problems (which more often than not, were created by government).

The things FDR did would make Bernie blush like a little girl.
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It's kinda like they saw what failed with Wilson and that whole League of Nations bullshit, and tweaked it a bit.
 
[486] said:
Dunno man, was it him or was he just a puppet as modern leaders are pretty transparent in being?

whole lotta authoritarian socialism going around in the '20s and '30s the world over...
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I heard Eleanor was running the show. She was also a Fabian Socialist too.

All rumors of course... did you know he couldn't walk?
 
petro812 said:
yeah, the press went way the fuck out of the way to hide the fact he could barely walk.

edit to add: because "security and shit"
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:confused: That's like 4th grade knowledge?

More like it had nothing to do with how he ran things so why should it matter. They focused on news :gasp:
 
China is big into this kind of crap don't they? Part of their largest social media network to I think I heard awhile back.
 
Weasel said:
More like it had nothing to do with how he ran things so why should it matter. They focused on news :gasp:
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but did they?
lots of times there was only one source of information and very little communication, so if they were doctoring the truth nobody could call them on it
 
You can pretty much read what they reported and wrote back then. Certainly has a different shade then today's crap. And seems to line up pretty correctly with what they knew.
 
Weasel said:
You can pretty much read what they reported and wrote back then. Certainly has a different shade then today's crap. And seems to line up pretty correctly with what they knew.
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no, I mean who's to say they weren't altering the present in the '30s
because they didn't have anything like the internet where news can sometimes bypass 'the man'
 
[486] said:
yup iirc had an armored train, just like josef
to help hide the fact or something?
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His train car is still parked on an unused way-deep-underground siding in Grand Central Terminal in NYC. There was a street-level elevator in a nearby hotel that went down to the platform of this siding. This way FDR's car could be driven right into the elevator and onto the platform without ever getting out. The elevator and platform and his private RR car are all still there. I used to remember the track number - you can Google it.
 
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