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Saw they are estimating the kit will be 1/2 the price of a new pickup. Would that be an XL or Platinum? Love the concept, but, look for it in one of those classic power wagon restos :)
 
G8trwood said:
Saw they are estimating the kit will be 1/2 the price of a new pickup. Would that be an XL or Platinum? Love the concept, but, look for it in one of those classic power wagon restos :)
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Ha I could see a good pairing between Legacy (Power Wagons), 406 Garage (Internationals), or Roadster Shop.
 
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I commented in the pickup video. I thought he might address my questions. I asked how they planned to integrate this with the existing wiring harness? Crickets
 
In one of their recent videos they talked about how they managed to kill the electronics that ran the batteries during testing, and were still able to drive it on the generator alone. Kind of cool how it has a sort of limp mode if the batteries fail.

In a few years once they have the whole pickup retrofit figured out they need to start building entirely new pickups to. I think he mentioned how difficult it was to build production light duty trucks in an older video because of all the safety standards, but a brand new diesel-electric one ton with the styling and simplicity of an older pickup would be badass.

One thing I don't like about the retrofit is how he want to put everything in the bed. I don't know how much room that generator will take up in the trans tunnel, but since there is no longer a driveshaft/transfer case it seems like you can put batteries under the bed and make the control box a narrow box at the front of the bed so you can still have a toolbox, or are not losing bed space? I would want the control box to be easy to get to, but the batteries don't seem like they need a whole lot of maintenence and when they do you can just pop the bed off to get to them?
 
I was under the impression that the retrofit kits were meant for classic pickups, not modern ones.
 
LScout800 said:
One thing I don't like about the retrofit is how he want to put everything in the bed. I don't know how much room that generator will take up in the trans tunnel, but since there is no longer a driveshaft/transfer case it seems like you can put batteries under the bed and make the control box a narrow box at the front of the bed so you can still have a toolbox, or are not losing bed space? I would want the control box to be easy to get to, but the batteries don't seem like they need a whole lot of maintenence and when they do you can just pop the bed off to get to them?
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Sounded like dropping them all in a tool box was the easy button to make it work on every truck. But if you wanted shit stuffed under the truck that was very doable.
 
In one video Deboss has a 90s dodge pickup, someone else is using a dump truck and the third is an old IHC grain truck they pulled out of some farmers field
As an aside a friend of mine's grandpa grew up in Ireland during WW2 he said all the delivery trucks around town ran off the smoke from buning coal. He said all those trucks disappeared as soon as the war was over
 
Steve300xcw said:
Sounded like dropping them all in a tool box was the easy button to make it work on every truck. But if you wanted shit stuffed under the truck that was very doable.
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This is correct all around. Retrofit package is to make it the easy button with any customizing (relocating certain components) to be done by the Edison approved installer.
 
redneckK20s said:
I was under the impression that the retrofit kits were meant for classic pickups, not modern ones.
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Their pickup retrofit kits should fit in anything that’s 4x4 with a solid front axle. I’d imagine older is slightly easier to play nicely together rather than anything more modern (CAN-BUS etc).
 
ridered3 said:
This is correct all around. Retrofit package is to make it the easy button with any customizing (relocating certain components) to be done by the Edison approved installer.
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It makes sense to do it that way. Expecially as they are still figuring shit out.
 
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Deboss is prototyping it. They are using the 2.8 Cummins for the generator due to emissions.

ridered3 said:
Their pickup retrofit kits should fit in anything that’s 4x4 with a solid front axle.
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I don't think 4x4 or solid front axle is a requirement. ...Or even "truck."
 
Pharr said:
I don't think 4x4 or solid front axle is a requirement. ...Or even "truck."
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True on not being a requirement. Should have stated that is the market they are wanting to attract/appeal to.

Could slam an Edison setup into the 4600 VW…
 
Watch Wes Work posted a pretty good video talking about the series hybrid setup they're using. It's gone now, someone must have bitched about it to him... I watched it sunday when he posted it, but now it's gone lol :grinpimp:
 
landen300 said:
Watch Wes Work posted a pretty good video talking about the series hybrid setup they're using. It's gone now, someone must have bitched about it to him... I watched it sunday when he posted it, but now it's gone lol :grinpimp:
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Reading through various comments on a recent Edison Motors video, Edison pointed out WWW was comparing apples (over the road truck range/info/setups) to oranges (vocational truck range/info/setups). Edison plans to have film a video with WWW to discuss further.
 
It'll be interesting if he can finish with his attitude. He's mad at the Canadian government for being liberal trash, yet he wants more liberal legislation to help him. :lmao:


As soon as I saw he was building solar "generators" it was very apparent he's drank the Kool aid.
 
Yep litteraly trying to hash it out with MNP financing for being the facilitator and writer of government funding and them then taking a 20% cut of the funding.

Canada is fucked and we just throw money away in the wind. Usually some stupid tranny catches it and starts another Leftist trash club that the government then funnels a bunch more of my money into.
 
Great concept except I'm not sure if anyone has figured out that the powers at be do not want diesel powered anything. I mean take a look at current emission regs and what is coming. The engines can barely work now. Breaking the powertrain up into a hybrid solves problems but unless the EPA is going to give you a pass it doesn't solve any issues with reliability or serviceability.

This is one step closer to uncoupling diesel from OTR transportation. So it's a hybrid. Then the genset magically becomes CNG/LP/Hydrogen/whatever. Then that genset just goes away.

This is a move to eliminate the diesel engine in higher class trucks without it happening in one big step. Yeah if the hybrid truck is running on a Tier 3 or lower genset sure. Maybe you can skirt that with the EPA because it isn't directly powering the wheels. Then the regs catch up and your genset is Tier 4 or whatever the new tier becomes. So now you have all the BS along with a hybrid system to fix.

Sorry it's cool tech and niche but let's get back to reality. Also good luck registering your Cummins Ram without your new ECM flash. That should tell you how things are going to be run moving forward.
 
I thought they were reasonably ok until they started using the guv to propel them forward. I agreed with Watch Wes Work’s analysis, and it may pencil out for their log truck in Alberta scenario, but not much else. Watching DeBoss do their 2nd gen dodge is cool also, but I can’t see how it will ever be a viable product in the real world I live in.
 
cervelorod said:
I thought they were reasonably ok until they started using the guv to propel them forward. I agreed with Watch Wes Work’s analysis, and it may pencil out for their log truck in Alberta scenario, but not much else. Watching DeBoss do their 2nd gen dodge is cool also, but I can’t see how it will ever be a viable product in the real world I live in.
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They were only fighting for a slice of the pie every other EV manufacturer got. Hell Elons whole dynasty was gov't funded. (and know they hate him)
 
Winchested said:
They were only fighting for a slice of the pie every other EV manufacturer got. Hell Elons whole dynasty was gov't funded. (and know they hate him)
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I guess I don't hate Elon, but I would never buy a Tesla for that same reason also. Elon has made his money developing things that can/are subsidized by uncle sugar. Edison started out saying that wasn't what they wanted to do, then they are lobbying for the same type of subsidies. I wish the guv would finally fail and we could quit spending money we don't have on things that only benefit a few.
 
So still sounds like this is cool if you build a vintage fill in the blank or use an engine/genset that is pre-emissions.

Please explain to me how anyone that uses a vehicle for work is going to implement this in a non-cost prohibited manner and actually get service for it nationwide?

Correct answer is you can't. You will run the emission shit whether you like it or not and eat the repair costs because your local dealer will only work on your newer truck that way.

All of this shit is just masturbation and a giant fucking pipe dream.
 
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