MuntCuffin
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Zactly. Calling it "killing the unborn baby" just stirs up too many inconvenient emotions and hurts too many precious feelers.Have the baby or terminate the zygote
Zactly. Calling it "killing the unborn baby" just stirs up too many inconvenient emotions and hurts too many precious feelers.Have the baby or terminate the zygote
So the options are get an abortion or have a kid. So an abortion would be killing the kid. Not sure why people thinks its only the womens body in play.
So you mean theres another option ? I can't wait to hear this.
You said this, first sentence is pretty clear. Confused as to why you felt the need to say the bolded part. Thought you were implying there was another option.So the options are get an abortion or have a kid. So an abortion would be killing the kid. Not sure why people thinks its only the womens body in play.
No, it's not.Making broad rules on the premise of fringe cases is kinda the argument for allowing abortion, is it not?
Yes. The group of humans made up of the mother has a 100% vote on whatever she chooses about another group of humans made up of her fetus[es].Should one group of humans be able to vote that another group of humans are "less than human?"
Meh im not the most clearest on my points. Was trying to point out that when carried to term its called having a baby but having an abortion is never referred to as killing the baby. I guess in my mind that seems weird because to me its the same thing (baby) whether its inside the womb or out. Regardless tho its not just the mothers body involved.You said this, first sentence is pretty clear. Confused as to why you felt the need to say the bolded part. Thought you were implying there was another option.
Maybe I need a beer.
Hitler felt the same. That is the position of all hate filled genocidalists, no matter what qualifiers they feebly attempt to use.Yes.
Robbing a liquor store is an intentional act of predation - kill that motherfucker.Lots of "one-time mistakes" end up with life long ramifications.
I can't say what my reaction would be to a 10 year prison sentence of a "one time mistake" of robbing a store would be. I don't think k it makes me an elitist to believe you shouldn't rob stores.
Having sex is an intentional act of procreation. - Have that baby.Robbing a liquor store is an intentional act of predation - kill that motherfucker.
Read the rest of what you didn't quote and respond to that.Having sex is an intentional act of procreation. - Have that baby.
You're completely full of shit and/or you don't understand what you're blathering about. And you're full of emotion. You mad bro?Hitler felt the same. That is the position of all hate filled genocidalists, no matter what qualifiers they feebly attempt to use.
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?Simple as.
You willing to die to defend that belief?
So why do proponent of unfettered abortion bring up rape, incest, and life of the mother as their argument of last resort? Of the totality of abortions these are very much "fringe cases", unless you think that we suck at medicine and rape and incest incidents total a significant percentage of the half million to million legal abortions every year (depending if you use CDC data or Guttmacher institute, to name 2). Rape-related pregnancy was last figured at 5% of rapes (as on 1996). Estimated rape in this country (which includes non-penetration) is 4-500k/year. So this would account for 25k abortions each year.No, it's not.
remember that women accept blame for their own actions far less often than other humanimalsOne recent study claimed that 80% of women who'd gotten one felt pressure from someone to get one, and the majority came from the father.
uh, the state has never had any duty to protect anyoneWhat are you going to do when the state declares you not to be valid humanity worthy of protection?
Right in the declaration. Governments created by men have a duty to ensure the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Then the little bit about overthrowing any government that infringes upon it (fails to protect those things).uh, the state has never had any duty to protect anyone
it was just an illusion that people assumed was there
We're there, my friend.The degradation of humanity in the eyes of the masses affects me directly. What are you going to do when the state declares you not to be valid humanity worthy of protection? What am I going to do in that case? Will I defend your right to life? You mine?
The airplane, automobile, television, and space travel were all around when devaluation of humanity based on nothing but the decree of the government turned into genocide on a large scale.
Can’t happen here? Some would say it’s been happening since ‘73…
lolRight in the declaration. Governments created by men have a duty to ensure the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Then the little bit about overthrowing any government that infringes upon it (fails to protect those things).
So, uh,
I can’t argue that at all, but I also am not willing to give up either.We're there, my friend.
It's been happening since 1931 in the black community vis-a-vis the Democrat Party's Negro Project/Planned Parenthood.
And it's happening to this day via Pinko-lib Obama's 'undesirable list' when making a 2A purchase.
And two pinko-lib states; MN and NY, legalized killing healthy/full term/minutes-old babies.
Notice the common denominator here?🤔
Be cynical all you like, it’s a free* country.lol
clearly you didn't get the memo, what they really meant back then was that government has a duty to protect some few bankers' monopoly on printing currency, and something about the big guy getting paid
Oh and bringing Democracy™ to any nation that decides to try to go a different direction than is Planned™
Bro, a hundred years (the banker wars thing I mentioned) isn't 5 minutesBe cynical all you like, it’s a free* country.
I choose to believe that they meant what they said, and even if they didn’t that’s how most assumed it and operated under the assumption of in this country until very recently and it’s only been in the last 5 minutes that great swaths have lost that interpretation.
*for a limited time.
100 years is 5 minutes in the perspective of human history, unless the ‘tism made you take it literally.Bro, a hundred years (the banker wars thing I mentioned) isn't 5 minutes
actually, a hundred years ain't accurate
right from the start there's been all manner of coercion and shit
always with the 'progress' and 'society' and collectivism
I'm starting to understand why everyone who looks into this kind of shit turns into an unintelligible lunatic like PAE...
Everything was rigged from the start, the only chance at outrunning some fuckwad's idea of "progress" is a new frontier, and there ain't none of them left but space.
figured you were talking about 1776 to now100 years is 5 minutes in the perspective of human history, unless the ‘tism made you take it literally.
is it your dream if it is what you were programmed since birth to believe, or is it the programmer's dream that you're living in?And yes, even if it was a fiction from the start as you believe, an appealing enough fiction can will itself into fact by enough believers.
when did I choose to use the dollar of today instead of the dollar of 1912?Everyone is a slave to some thing. In this country, you generally get to choose what you’re asleep too. With a few exceptions Of course . The only way I’ll truly is the great here. After whatever that is, you can choose to be a slave to what’s right or someone will choose for you to be a slave to… Something else
When you chose to use fiat currency, Duh. If you have chose to convert your feet into gold when you started working for the man you now at least be able to pay with,oh, $2006 dollars? You have had to of been around in 1912 to get that deal anyway, unless you’re the mysterious Internet time traveler that pops up every so often. are you? If I were you, I’d go back, a few more years left before women’s suffrage.when did I choose to use the dollar of today instead of the dollar of 1912?
So you'd fight for the rights of people that don't exist vs people that do exist. That makes no sense.The degradation of humanity in the eyes of the masses affects me directly. What are you going to do when the state declares you not to be valid humanity worthy of protection? What am I going to do in that case? Will I defend your right to life? You mine?
The airplane, automobile, television, and space travel were all around when devaluation of humanity based on nothing but the decree of the government turned into genocide on a large scale.
Can’t happen here? Some would say it’s been happening since ‘73…