Dammit Trump, why are saying stupid shit/smdh/

[Sandy Johnson]

so you're saying there wasnt cheating in the election in 2020 and thats why its not a top 10 priority for you?

just want to be extra clear here....

If he is, then he's a great example of my second point that I posted above.

It doesn't seem very tactical of Trump to bring up the 2020 election as rigged prior to getting elected. He would be in a much more powerful position as the actual president to go after any cheaters as president vs a candidate. It also seems smart to provide less warning. Unless he's expecting to lose, in which case he's making sure people are keeping the concept of unfair elections in the consciousness.

 

[Weasel]

And I think you just proved the point.

As in nothing imploded, no ones dead, life has gone one. Screaming election fraud isn't the solution it's a circle jerk that will lead to nothing and no where but a bunch of money wasted and time. Do something productive. Nothing on my list will ever change by presuming election fraud.

when were elections ever 'honest'?
I could see an argument for pre-1860s but even that's a stretch

yep, it used to be that who ever provided the best food and beer would win the elections.

 

[gunracer1]

when were elections ever 'honest'?
I could see an argument for pre-1860s but even that's a stretch

i watched a landslide disappear right before my eyes, 5 counties changed the whole nation.

 

[rockota]

As in nothing imploded, no ones dead, life has gone one. Screaming election fraud isn't the solution it's a circle jerk that will lead to nothing and no where but a bunch of money wasted and time. Do something productive. Nothing on my list will ever change by presuming election fraud.

uh.... a lot of people died from mandatory vax. A lot of people have died because of unchecked illegal immigration of gang members... A lot of people have died because unchecked fentanyl. People are in jail for speech. Prices through the roof....

"nothing imploded."

 

[gunracer1]

i watched a landslide disappear right before my eyes, 5 counties changed the whole nation.

uh.... a lot of people died from mandatory vax. A lot of people have died because of unchecked illegal immigration of gang members... A lot of people have died because unchecked fentanyl People are in jail for speech. Prices through the roof....

"nothing imploded."

and all the things in his top ten got worse, because they cheated.

 

[Texas97]

uh.... a lot of people died from mandatory vax. A lot of people have died because of unchecked illegal immigration of gang members... A lot of people have died because unchecked fentanyl. People are in jail for speech. Prices through the roof....

"nothing imploded."

you touched on it, but 12 million more illegal immigrants hurts everyone.

 

[Weasel]

so you're saying there wasnt cheating in the election in 2020 and thats why its not a top 10 priority for you?

just want to be extra clear here....

I don't know but I'd say it's not relevant enough to do anything at this point. I'd say probably not in any significant manner.

 

[Weasel]

sigh.. listen numb nuts. the people that say there was "cheating" are the same ones that are going to vote Trump this time.

There is a big pool in the middle that either say there was no cheat or don't care. Those are the people that Trump needs to vote for him.

Claiming, talking about, or brining it back up is not likely to sway that middle group to vote from Trump. it seems it might turn them off and to the other idiot running.

It doesn't matter what you think, your vote is already set.

 

[DannyK]

If the Dems cheated in 2020, then why didn't they cheat in 2016 and 'steal' the election for Killary?

 

[Roc Doc]

If the Dems cheated in 2020, then why didn't they cheat in 2016 and 'steal' the election for Killary?

Like when GWB stole it from Al Gorehole?

 

[Texas97]

If the Dems cheated in 2020, then why didn't they cheat in 2016 and 'steal' the election for Killary?

they did. they just underestimated how much they needed to beat Trump. they corrected that in 2020. Joe Biden got 15 million more votes than Killary did.

 

[Texas97]

I don't know but I'd say it's not relevant enough to do anything at this point. I'd say probably not in any significant manner.

if you dont do anything about it now, they will surely do it again here in 2024.

 

[Thumping]

As in nothing imploded, no ones dead, life has gone one. Screaming election fraud isn't the solution it's a circle jerk that will lead to nothing and no where but a bunch of money wasted and time. Do something productive. Nothing on my list will ever change by presuming election fraud.

Are you serious Clark?

 

[Weasel]

uh.... a lot of people died from mandatory vax. A lot of people have died because of unchecked illegal immigration of gang members... A lot of people have died because unchecked fentanyl. People are in jail for speech. Prices through the roof....

"nothing imploded."

Yeah I don't think so. What's alot 100? Pretty subjective.

That was to do with who folks voted for - that doesn't have anything to do with cheating. Congress allowed most of this stuff to take place, I suppose that was cheating as well. Courts have allowed some of that to stand, I suppose that was cheating.

You can't fix a cheat, how would any of that fix any of the current mess? No one is going to jail or getting fined (not that that will fix any of the mess either)/


Have an investigation and oh my the election was a proven fraud. Then what? It's not going to reserve any policies or restore any right that were infringed on. Its a fat nothing.

 

[rockota]

sigh.. listen numb nuts. the people that say there was "cheating" are the same ones that are going to vote Trump this time.

There is a big pool in the middle that either say there was no cheat or don't care. Those are the people that Trump needs to vote for him.

Claiming, talking about, or brining it back up is not likely to sway that middle group to vote from Trump. it seems it might turn them off and to the other idiot running.

It doesn't matter what you think, your vote is already set.

If someone “needs” votes…. Then election integrity is the number 1 issue.

 

[Weasel]

if you dont do anything about it now, they will surely do it again here in 2024.

There is a big pool in the middle that either say there was no cheat or don't care. Those are the people that Trump needs to vote for him.

Claiming, talking about, or brining it back up is not likely to sway that middle group to vote from Trump. it seems it might turn them off and to the other idiot running.

It doesn't matter what you think, your vote is already set.

 

[Texas97]

If he is, then he's a great example of my second point that I posted above.

It doesn't seem very tactical of Trump to bring up the 2020 election as rigged prior to getting elected. He would be in a much more powerful position as the actual president to go after any cheaters as president vs a candidate. It also seems smart to provide less warning. Unless he's expecting to lose, in which case he's making sure people are keeping the concept of unfair elections in the consciousness.

so in general, we all hate when politicians dont tell us what they are going to do when they get elected. or tell us one thing, and do another?

well, almost to a fault, Trump is telling us and has been telling us exactly what he is going to do. same thing he did in the run-up to 2016. and then he followed through, for the most part.

we cant want transparency and then get upset when someone is transparent with us.


but its exactly why the Democrats arent and wont be transparent. they have to lie to get in and then do the opposite when elected. straight out of their playbook.

 

[rockota]

Yeah I don't think so. What's alot 100? Pretty subjective.

That was to do with who folks voted for - that doesn't have anything to do with cheating. Congress allowed most of this stuff to take place, I suppose that was cheating as well. Courts have allowed some of that to stand, I suppose that was cheating.

You can't fix a cheat, how would any of that fix any of the current mess? No one is going to jail or getting fined (not that that will fix any of the mess either)/


Have an investigation and oh my the election was a proven fraud. Then what? It's not going to reserve any policies or restore any right that were infringed on. Its a fat nothing.

I get the feeling you’d be happier in 1930’s Germany

 

[uhoh]

ah yes sorry brain fart, that is what I was referring to. Corrected above.

Why? The people in the middle that he needs help from don't care. I don't think anyone in that zone cares, it was 4 years ago, and they want what is moving forward.

It's not high or even top 10 on my items I care about.

IMO -- he's saying that stuff to try and sideline some of the heavy hitters he views as cheating. Similar to Zuckerberg a few weeks back.

 

[MChat]

If the Dems cheated in 2020, then why didn't they cheat in 2016 and 'steal' the election for Killary?

They did, that's why everyone was so shocked when Hitlary lost. Everyone was sure of her victory, the way the media and the "people in the know" handled the loss tells you they knew the fix was in for her and were genuinely shocked that it didn't work.

The Deep State's Puppet Masters have been meddling in U.S. elections since before They got the idea to start the Democrat party and They've been progressively getting bolder with Their cheating throughout the many decades. The 2020 election was Their boldest yet, with plenty of evidence for all to see, yet so many people believe the BS gaslighting of Their Propaganda Machine (a.k.a. Mainstream Media), and with the Justice system fully corrupted by Their political puppets in key places, almost none of that evidence ever saw the inside of a courtroom.

They weren't at all concerned that 10 million people walked away from the D party in 2020 to vote for Trump. That's TEN MILLION people that voted for Hillary that did NOT vote for Biden and voted for Trump instead. That is a 20 million vote swing (-10 for Biden +10 for Trump). And they're not concerned that millions more former D and independents that previously voted for Hillary and/or Biden are not voting for Harris (and voting for Trump instead). They're not concerned at all. They have 12 million illegal aliens, of which 25 million are going to vote for Harris.

Trump cannot possibly win this election, and it's not because of anything he says (most of which is taken out of context and distorted to fit the D narrative); it's not because the propaganda machine is going to do a bang up job in making Kamala look good (their job isn't to get people to vote for her, their job is to convince everyone that didn't vote for her that there were still enough people who did that her win looks plausible). Kamala is going to win simply because They are going to cheat as much as it takes to win, and they don't care if anyone knows anymore because they'll just keep pushing the narrative through their propaganda machine that the election was "safe and secure" and she legitimately won.

And someday questioning the outcome of the election by meme, online post, or actual verbally saying so will land you in prison. The 2nd amendment won't protect any of the others because nobody is willing (myself included, for now) to put it in practice.

 

[Weasel]

If someone “needs” votes…. Then election integrity is the number 1 issue.

If you don't need votes then there is an issue and there isn't an election. Every elected official needs the votes from voters in order to win. Trump keep saying crap to push people off in voting for him.

 

[rockota]

If you don't need votes then there is an issue and there isn't an election. Every elected official needs the votes from voters in order to win. Trump keep saying crap to push people off in voting for him.

You're struggling with the logic...

if a person needs (legit) votes to win an election... it's not possible to get those votes if the election isn't legit. It's also not possible to get votes from people who don't GAF if an election is legit.

 

[Thumping]

Yeah I don't think so. What's alot 100? Pretty subjective.

That was to do with who folks voted for - that doesn't have anything to do with cheating. Congress allowed most of this stuff to take place, I suppose that was cheating as well. Courts have allowed some of that to stand, I suppose that was cheating.

You can't fix a cheat, how would any of that fix any of the current mess? No one is going to jail or getting fined (not that that will fix any of the mess either)/


Have an investigation and oh my the election was a proven fraud. Then what? It's not going to reserve any policies or restore any right that were infringed on. Its a fat nothing.

I have to admit. Your commitment to such stupidly is impressive.

 

[Weasel]

IMO -- he's saying that stuff to try and sideline some of the heavy hitters he views as cheating. Similar to Zuckerberg a few weeks back.

hmm well interesting take or angle. Good point. Not sure it's a good move. Like Sandy said, why announce it.

 

[rockota]

Yeah I don't think so. What's alot 100? Pretty subjective.

That was to do with who folks voted for - that doesn't have anything to do with cheating. Congress allowed most of this stuff to take place, I suppose that was cheating as well. Courts have allowed some of that to stand, I suppose that was cheating.

You can't fix a cheat, how would any of that fix any of the current mess? No one is going to jail or getting fined (not that that will fix any of the mess either)/


Have an investigation and oh my the election was a proven fraud. Then what? It's not going to reserve any policies or restore any right that were infringed on. Its a fat nothing.

 

[Weasel]

You're struggling with the logic...

if a person needs (legit) votes to win an election... it's not possible to get those votes if the election isn't legit. It's also not possible to get votes from people who don't GAF if an election is legit.

Sure it is, start talking about stuff people do GAF about. Don't sell people on what they don't want to hear, sell them on what they want. The votes in the middle (or wherever maybe it's not the middle) are what Trump needs to pull into his side.

 

[Weasel]

The current policies and it's effect on my list are due to a democratic platform and policy base. It's also due to republican's in Congress that are not effective (who didn't cheat they are just dumb I guess).

The way to change that is to get a new policy in. Focus on the policy.

I do understand the direction your coming from and yes it's chicken egg but I don't see it being an effective route. Sorry if I can't eloquently or definitively document it.

just a stupid dude in the middle that will vote for trump (not sure I really like the choice )and off hand know alot of people that didn't vote Trump last time and are on the fence this time. Actual real people in my community.

 

[Sandy Johnson]

so in general, we all hate when politicians dont tell us what they are going to do when they get elected. or tell us one thing, and do another?

well, almost to a fault, Trump is telling us and has been telling us exactly what he is going to do. same thing he did in the run-up to 2016. and then he followed through, for the most part.

we cant want transparency and then get upset when someone is transparent with us.


but its exactly why the Democrats arent and wont be transparent. they have to lie to get in and then do the opposite when elected. straight out of their playbook.

Ok, yes. But at the same time, if there is a group with the capability to game a united states presidential election to the tune of several million votes and get away with it, it's probably not wise to telegraph to these people prior to the next presidential election that you are coming for them if you win the election. Know what I mean?

And IF they really are that powerful, then why is Trump even bothering with running?

 

[rockota]

Ok, yes. But at the same time, if there is a group with the capability to game a united states presidential election to the tune of several million votes and get away with it, it's probably not wise to telegraph to these people prior to the next presidential election that you are coming for them if you win the election. Know what I mean?

And IF they really are that powerful, then why is Trump even bothering with running?

Political Theater? The Tom Massie clip sums it up.

 

[Texas97]

And IF they really are that powerful, then why is Trump even bothering with running?

he caught them napping once, he might be able to do it again. i think his plan is to overwhelm their cheat with legitimate support for him. Or force them to be more overt so that it cant be ignored this time.

who am i kidding. Biden continually had blinkouts and even crapped his pants in the Vatican and the media ignored it all.