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Burning a BLM flag is a hate crime?

Provience said:
you can burn YOUR OWN flag, but you cannot burn somebody elses.

because it was Church property that was stolen and burned, it is a hate crime.


Could have been any flag
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Unless said stolen church flag was a U.S. flag


ETA: it may be considered destruction of property or theft, but it sure wouldn't be a hate crime.
 
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Provience said:
if it is YOUR flag, it isn't a hate crime.

go buy a BLM flag and burn it, nobody gives a fuck
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So theft makes it hate? :confused: ...Wait, let me write this down before I forget. I can't depend on logic to sort this shit out.:homer:
 
There have been a lot of US flags taken and burned lately. Calling it a hate crime when someone does it to a blm flag is political prosecution by a da that wants to prove how woke he is. Probably a Soros supported da. We need to push back against this bullshit.
 
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The Proud Boys, a radical, dangerous, racist, transphobic group were called to arms by President Trump to “Stand Back and Stand By” during the first Presidential political debate of 2020 on 9/29/2020. This was a call for National Terrorism. Within an hour this group had the slogan printed and were thrilled to be given direction by their leader. This vile group must be declared a Terrorist Organization before more deaths occur. Below is a history of the organization:
The Proud Boys was formed in 2016 by VICE Media co-founder, Gavin McInnes. In an op-ed in the far-right outlet Taki’s Magazine—notorious for its regular contributors, which included white supremacist Jared Taylor—McInnes announced the foundation of the group, describing its members as “Western chauvinists who refuse to apologise [sic] for creating the modern world,” and who “long for the days when ‘girls were girls and men were men.’” According to McInnes, the Proud Boys, whose name is taken from a song in the musical Aladdin, are a response and opposition to “politically correct culture.” McInnes’ orders were “We need more violence from the Trump supporters. Choke a bitch. Choke a tranny. Get your fingers around the windpipe. Get a gun."
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A friend was at this protest. He was clearly wearing trump gear but when he asked for directions, the black DC cops sent him directly into the blm/antifa counter protesters twice. I think DC has picked a side here.
 
Splib said:
Lost in all this fear hate war mongering are two things. Boy Floyd who got snuffed to start the most recent round has handcuffed and lying face down in custody when the Law killed him. Sat there and felt his pulse stop. And, the fact that useless piece of human shit was there, with fentanyl in his system, passing counterfeit money. And he was stupid enough to stay in front of the Liquor store 20 minutes after the store employees confronted him. He sat there in his car.

So which is worse ?

Neither of these are the excuse to incite what happened in this country since. So, where is the movement to hold accountable the shit stirrers ?
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lets assume all the things are true about Floyd. Is it worth a death sentence? Not by our current laws.
He was (because he was cuffed) in the care of the government. They have a responsibility to preserve life.
He was not 'innocent' but all of expect that if we are taken into custody, that the police will keep us safe. It is required by law.
The biggest forest fires were usually caused by the smallest of flames. To have the Floyd case ignite so many people, they were dry tinder ripe for ignition.

Look at how a football player kneeling (on the advice of a decorated war veteran) during the national anthem stirred people to boycott games, and be enraged over something that was symbolic. The reaction to that leads to the protests over Floyd. Your dog taps the door to go out, you ignore him, he shits on the rug.

I separate the protesters from the violent folks. The cost of protest is minimal and generally done by folks who believe they are disenfranchised. The violent folks are opportunists. They don't have a side and if they weren't on one side they'd be on the other.

Floyd was, at minimum, an addict turned criminal. Not a good citizen. The policeman in this instance showed judgement that is well beneath any standard.

The result, LOTS of unhappy people.
 
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