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BLM closes 317 miles of OHV trails in Moab on Saturday.

06h3 said:
I spent hours on a computer looking up trail by trail explaining why we need each trail. That was a suggestion of Ben Burr for the Idaho land under attack but I wont comply.
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That's the trick. We have to justify why. And it's BS. No we don't. It a trail and we want it open.

The whole maintenance is another false scheme. I don't give 2 shits if they don't maintain any of it.
 
Seems like BLM is taking lessons from the USFS. Don't do maintenance, let it fall apart, people stop using it, decommission it (which costs 100x more than maintenance would), then turn it into wilderness. Comment away though. There's usually some actual well thought out expert info which they give the ol "FU we're doing it anyway" response to. Some local clubs have kept some stuff open by volunteering to do the maintenance.
 



Cliff notes, Bureau of land Management in Moab didn’t follow laws, facts and procedures during the process and closed trails because they don’t care. This will probably, and should, end up in court. It’s just unfortunate that we, as the off-road community, have to spend excessive amounts of money and time in a court due to people not following the process, laws and rules and hoping we do not fight back.

I really enjoyed the comments on social value conflict vs inter personal conflict. In most cases these are not inter personal conflicts where off-roaders are running into groups of other people recreating and can not coexist, this is a social value conflict where other outdoor enthusiasts believe their form of outdoor recreation is superior to ours and ours should be removed.

This is not a Moab problem. This is happening everywhere out west. Idaho, Montana, Utah, Arizona, California, etc. The land grab is happening regardless of facts. Oceano dunes in CA is an example of this. The entire reason for closing the sand dunes was “particles in the air are elevated due to off-road vehicles.” That was the basis of their argument. During covid their was no off-road use in the dunes and air particles were HIGHER than ever before, the facts ruined their argument but the dunes were still going to close based on a decision AFTER the facts were presented. It took a lawsuit to reverse the decision that was based on faulty “facts.”

I suggest you support the groups fighting these fights. Your money will go to lawsuits. It’s sad we live in a day and age where lying and cheating in hopes people won’t fight back is a tactic. It makes me want to not comply and use the closed land regardless of the decisions made because these groups are taking cheap shots.

I also love how one of SUWA’s old attorneys was on the board at grand county who was involved in making these decisions. SUWA is like the Sierra club ****s but for Utah. I’ll give these pricks one compliment, they play the long game well through being sneaky ****s.
 
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RELEASE: BlueRibbon Coalition Supports the Historic Roadways Protection Act

SALT LAKE CITY - Today Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) introduced the Historic Roadways Protection Act in the United States Senate in response to the Bureau of Land Management's (BLM) recent decision to close 317 miles of popular historic roads in Moab. Senator Lee's bill prohibits using federal money t
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Discussion Meeting Hosted for Possible Road Closures in the Swell - ETV News

By Kassidee Oakeson On Tuesday, April 16 at 6 p.m., at the Carbon County Commission Chambers, Castle County OHV Association welcomed Laura Ault, Deputy Director of Utah Public Lands Policy Coordinating Office (PLPCO) for a night of questions and answers regarding the Bureau of Land Management...
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On Tuesday, April 16 at 6 p.m., at the Carbon County Commission Chambers, Castle County OHV Association welcomed Laura Ault, Deputy Director of Utah Public Lands Policy Coordinating Office (PLPCO) for a night of questions and answers regarding the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) road closures in the San Rafael Swell. Also in attendance to help answer questions was Jaydon Mead from the BLM’s Price Field Office.

The BLM will be releasing the Travel Management Plan (TMP) for the San Rafael Swell towards the end of May/start of June. At that time, the public will be allowed to submit comments to the BLM. There will only be about a 30-45 day comment period. If a comment is submitted before or after the comment period, then that comment will not be officially considered.

During this meeting, the BLM handed out a quick guide of to how to make substantive comments. This quick guide says; “a vital piece of the BLM’s NEPA planning process is the public comments received. These comments help shape how different projects are finalized. A common misconception is that any comment about the plan is a substantive one, like voting for which alternative is best.” The guide then shared tips on what a substantive comment is. A substantive comment: includes new information, identifies a way to meet a need, points out specific flaws in analysis, gives an alternative with supporting facts or evidence, and identifies parts of the plan or analysis that are unclear.

A substantive comment also uses clear, specific rationale, supporting documents like photos or other factual evidence and information, demonstrate impact or likely potential for impact, are unique and not a form letter, specific location information, e.g. GPS coordinates or route number. Mead encouraged those in attendance to review the TMP when it was released and the specific reasons for the route closures and make comments based on that information if possible.

A tool available for public use to prepare comments can be found on PLPCO’s website under Travel Management Planning. Listed on that webpage is all the finalized, in-progress and coming soon TMP’s. There is a link under the San Rafael Swell, under Travel Management Areas to learn more or explore the preliminary alternatives map and prepare a comment letter. From there, the public can see preliminary maps of the road closures and use the comment generator tool. The comment generator tool includes user-friendly instructions.

It is important to note that completing a comment on the comment generator tool will not submit a comment to the BLM, it is just a tool to help the public create substantive non-form comments. The user will need to take the comment generated and either mail, email the comments to the BLM, or submit the comment on the BLM’s website during the comment period.

TMP’s already finalized include the Labyrinth Rims/Gemini Bridges, Canyon Rims/Indian Creek and the San Rafael Desert. Upcoming TMP’s include Henry Mountains/Fremont Gorge, Trail Canyon, Paunsaugunt, Dinosaur North, Book Cliffs, Nine Mile Canyon and Dolores River. The in-progress TPM for the San Rafael Swell currently has four alternatives. The most aggressive alternative, Alternative B, has as much as 949 inventoried miles closed, 1577 roads closed in total.

For more information about what a BLM Travel Management Plan (TMP) is, use the comment generator tool, etc. visit PLPCO’s website: publiclands.utah.gov

The website to submit public comments and view the TMP as it is released is the BLM’s project planning page: eplanning.blm.gov.
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Squamch said:
Cordless m18 band saw, and a section of the gate needs to dissappear.

That's what happens around here, or the gate gets fully torn out of the ground:laughing:
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Cordless grinder. Abrasives are way faster on hardened shackles. :flipoff2:


We got BLM to build a few new trails. They gated a bunch of old stuff so we all went out and just started building new ones. After a few years they gave up trying to shut them down and just finished them. :laughing:

I keep a grinder in the truck. They have "forgotten" to unlock gates on open dates (we have closures between snowmobile and ohv). If it's supposed to be open I do the polite thing and get the gate open so the idiots don't make a new trail around the gate. After a few times it seems they figured out how to unlock them the day before they're officially open instead of a month after. :lmao:
 
I just joined the BRC. I had no idea there would be more losses to come. Glad I’m finally getting out to Utah very soon.
 
FleshEater said:
I just joined the BRC. I had no idea there would be more losses to come. Glad I’m finally getting out to Utah very soon.
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not a personal dig but that's also the norm. Won't happen here, not how it's done here, my backyard is safe, doesn't effect me they can do whatever. Then one day all your stuff is closed and wondering what happened. The closing trend is national and is going to end up in all areas at some point. It's a cancer.
 
Weasel said:
not a personal dig but that's also the norm. Won't happen here, not how it's done here, my backyard is safe, doesn't effect me they can do whatever. Then one day all your stuff is closed and wondering what happened. The closing trend is national and is going to end up in all areas at some point. It's a cancer.
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I’ll be honest, since I have lived in Pennsylvania my whole life public lands were not on my radar until 2019. Then I kept seeing “Blue Ribbon,” and first thought was Pabst, so I didn’t dig into it more. :laughing:

Personal dig or not, it’s deserved. I should’ve been a member when I first joined Pirate. Shame on me.

Back then I never thought I’d have the ability or the opportunity to travel and wheel. But one never knows what life is going to serve up. But as the old adage goes, I guess better late than never.
 
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