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Automatic draft registration bill passes house

The threat of not getting a government job or student loans etc.



Yota Up said:
Anyone explain what this part means?

"the special challenges later in life that can come from not having registered"

What challenges?
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Yota Up said:
Anyone explain what this part means?

"the special challenges later in life that can come from not having registered"

What challenges?
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Try getting a security clearance.
I registered in 1980, voted for Reagan, then I enlisted.
 
Thank you for the answers, gentlemen. I had not thought of those.
However, if you have no interest in military job or government job or student loan, are there any "challenges" then?
If your kid wants to be a dentist in life, would not signing up for this have any negative outcome for them?

Seems like future wars will buy another beachside mansion for the politicians while your kids die for it.
 
I went to the local post office to register for the Selective Service System during the Carter administration, the pissy clerk wouldn't let me due to no driver's license. Oh well... I walked out.
Jimmy later gave out a second chance to sign up due to that too many "able bodies" were complaining about how it was too far to drive, didn't feel like it, etc (Joan Baez joke was that she was 50 yrs old & plus she was a woman). Remember that "being not cooperative" was punishable up to 5 yrs in the clink... I go back to the P.O. with new DL & the fuggin pissy clerk tells me that I don't need it- :homer:
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
Really.

From the Vietnam War (and some before that) on all this country has used its troops for is personal gain or to protect its investments under the notion of "keeping our freedoms" and get minions to do it for them. I have several uncles and cousins that went to Vietnam. I was born in 75 and heard all the war stories they talked about when I was growing and figured out a a young age that the government wasn't your friend. You think I signed up for that shit when I was a senior to fight a fight for the government that really shouldn't be trusted? :lmao: And I have met and know lots of other people that felt the same way I did about that bullshit and didn't sign up.

When a fight that the general public thinks is REALLY worth fighting for happens and threatens this country I will guarantee you there will be piles of volunteers waiting to go kick some ass for the USA. Until that happens I think they can go fuck themselves with that automatic draft signup shit.
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Pretty much my thoughts, though the 9/11 attacks created a certain feeling of “national defense” rather than political wars. Since the Obama years no way in hell I’m going to war for a commander in chief that fundamentally hates me.

If we are going to be “team America, world police” they should just send in a SEAL team to start the regime change rather than the fanfare of a pretend war. At this point though, it wouldn’t really surprise me if Biden’s handlers and China had a Zoom call where they agreed to go to war to help the overpopulation issue move a bit faster. Plus they are money makers. Option 2 would be they foresee a possible civil war and want all of the young men on the union side.

Funny thing is, I came close to joining the National Guard in college, as I am more than willing to guard/serve our nation when needed. Stuff like the southern border, Hurricane Katrina, Covid/Floyd riots, Hawaii fires, etc. I quickly found out they regularly send reserve troops for overseas deployments in combat zones, while active duty troops are chilling stateside, which didn’t sit well with me.

About the original question, I’d always thought it was mandatory to register to vote, but I guess I was wrong. At 36 now I should be “aging out” and our boys are only 4 and 6.
 
I woke up on my 18th and my father, who used to watch TV to find out if he was going nam, said let’s go.

Drove me down to sign up. It was just something the men in our family did.
 
I got dragged along to a for-profit college fake trade school when I was 29, they had me “soft apply” for this and that. Made a big deal that I never signed up for the selective service.

Now that I see it’s a requirement for federal aid. It all makes sense why they were so upset.
 
Oh no! If you don’t sign up you won’t get to go die in Ukraine fighting for the tranny Jews in the DEI war of 2025 after president Joe “used to be best friends with the Klan” Biden steals 2024! Can you blame the youth for not wanting to sign up? Are the wars we currently are engaged in moral?


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SLOWPOKE693 said:
The 85% that volunteered to sign up for Selective Services in 2022, in my opinion is a good representation of the % of stupid/brainwashed people we have in this country. Not fucking good... :shaking:
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Up until 1974 it was a mandate for all males 18 to 34 in the US to register with a good number going off to far away places...like Viet Nam, Korea, Europe/Pacific, Europe, Philippines and into the S of the US. All compliments of the Conscription act brought to you by none other than Abe Lincoln.

What's more places like Switzerland require mandatory service for 2 yrs...yet they aren't "preparing" for an immediate war. Are they brain dead as well?
 
Never signed up for SS, was 18yrs + 4 days when I started boot camp. Figured if they wanted me to fill out more paperwork they could send it to boot camp. Never heard a peep... :laughing:
 
DVanVorous said:
Up until 1974 it was a mandate for all males 18 to 34 in the US to register with a good number going off to far away places...like Viet Nam, Korea, Europe/Pacific, Europe, Philippines and into the S of the US. All compliments of the Conscription act brought to you by none other than Abe Lincoln.

What's more places like Switzerland require mandatory service for 2 yrs...yet they aren't "preparing" for an immediate war. Are they brain dead as well?
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Ol' Abe wasn't using his troops for personal gains like our current government does and I'm going to go out on a limb and say Switzerland doesn't either....... Apples to Oranges and all that.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
Ol' Abe wasn't using his troops for personal gains like our current government does and I'm going to go out on a limb and say Switzerland doesn't either....... Apples to Oranges and all that.
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LoL...a bit of family lore says that one of the esteemed gents on the family bush was found to have been dipping in the till as a head honcho in the quartermaster corps while serving in MN finest during the Civil war. I imagine I could track down a few non familial examples without too much effort right up to current events. Graft and abuse is a commonplace deal since the Declaration of Independence was given to King George. Why else would there be an amendment about quartering troops in residences in the BoR?
 
BigBurt said:
The Swiss also don’t have 750+ bases in 80+ foreign countries
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What about Russia who also has a mandatory service requirement if you want apples to apples? I can think of a number of EU countries, Middle East and SE Asia that do as well.
Australia has mandatory service except in peacetime...that sound similar?
 
DVanVorous said:
Up until 1974 it was a mandate for all males 18 to 34 in the US to register with a good number going off to far away places...like Viet Nam, Korea, Europe/Pacific, Europe, Philippines and into the S of the US. All compliments of the Conscription act brought to you by none other than Abe Lincoln.

What's more places like Switzerland require mandatory service for 2 yrs...yet they aren't "preparing" for an immediate war. Are they brain dead as well?
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When is the last time Switzerland was involved in a foreign war? (Spoiler alert: the answer is "never".) They truly do have a DEFENSIVE armed forces. I'd sign up for that no problem. I'm not going to go fight whoever some DC suit wearing bureaucrats want to use to enrich their MIC buddies with giant contracts. Fuck that.
 
The definition of “A well regulated militia…” has changed since the beginning of the republic, but our citizens still need to be trained and available to defend our nation. I mean trained in warfare, not diversity, equity and inclusion.
Yes, I’m a heretic. Burn me.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
Comparing Russia to the USA is apples to apples? :lmao:

Seriously?

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In this particular instance, yes. The fact the .gov operates differently is immaterial to the argument you pose...You were grumping about coverage of multiple bases all over and requiring a mandatory draft/service and guess who does the same EXACT thing.

Next time you try to debate stick to the topic using facts instead of trying to straw man fallacy it or Ad Hominem confrontations...
 
east_beast said:
When is the last time Switzerland was involved in a foreign war? (Spoiler alert: the answer is "never".) They truly do have a DEFENSIVE armed forces. I'd sign up for that no problem. I'm not going to go fight whoever some DC suit wearing bureaucrats want to use to enrich their MIC buddies with giant contracts. Fuck that.
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You want other countries that rely on mandated service? Let's start with Israel, meander to the EU and visit most of Europe then meander to SE Asia shall we? Even Japan has a standing military despite the surrender constraints in 1945.

Now, name one generation that hasn't been involved in armed conflict either internal or external since the US began as of 1775. As to fat cats making $$$ peddling war toys, same deal that has never changed except maybe to be more in the news. In my case...like I said I spent about 35 out of 40 years of my career working on DoD carve out or SBIR contracts. That puter you type on is cheap compliments of devices initially developed for folks like DARPA, DoD and DoE. Most electronic parts are like that as well all compliments of weight reduction and the trend towards fly by wire in aircraft by integrating multiple parts into IC designs. The internet was 1st proposed by folks at DARPA as a means to tie contractors together to speed up production and enhance communications between them. Fact of the matter is that the DoD and other 3 letter organisations spend $ and employ via their contracts. Its all about the capitalism and large corporate ties that the politics gets fuzzy...look up who is sponsoring Project 2025 in the name of small .gov sometime.
 
DVanVorous said:
You want other countries that rely on mandated service? Let's start with Israel, meander to the EU and visit most of Europe then meander to SE Asia shall we? Even Japan has a standing military despite the surrender constraints in 1945.

Now, name one generation that hasn't been involved in armed conflict either internal or external since the US began as of 1775. As to fat cats making $$$ peddling war toys, same deal that has never changed except maybe to be more in the news. In my case...like I said I spent about 35 out of 40 years of my career working on DoD carve out or SBIR contracts. That puter you type on is cheap compliments of devices initially developed for folks like DARPA, DoD and DoE. Most electronic parts are like that as well all compliments of weight reduction and the trend towards fly by wire in aircraft by integrating multiple parts into IC designs. The internet was 1st proposed by folks at DARPA as a means to tie contractors together to speed up production and enhance communications between them. Fact of the matter is that the DoD and other 3 letter organisations spend $ and employ via their contracts. Its all about the capitalism and large corporate ties that the politics gets fuzzy...look up who is sponsoring Project 2025 in the name of small .gov sometime.
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What's your point? Did you actually serve in a branch of the military? I don't really care, just curious. Seems like for the last few decades the mostly volunteer military has worked just fine. Lets face it , Vietnam and "fighting" communism the old fashioned way was dumb. And what happened since then was not much smarter. I consider myself to be in a Generation that didn't have a real armed conflict. Grenada hardly counts. The year I turned 18 was the year they restarted registering for the draft. I did it, I didn't think a draft would ever start up again and I still don't now more than ever. If there had been an actual war when I was 18 I would have tried to join in. Wasn't meant to be I guess. All my friends that served in the late 70s to early 80s did not recommend it at all either.

Muhammad Ali was a pioneer of sorts too.:stirthepot:
 
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