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Asphalt shingles or metal roof?

I inquired and was told about $1k more for standing seam.

If these numbers seem quite low, it is a very simple roof, one peak, a separate peaked roof on the garage, ridge vent, 1 chimney, approximately 1800 square foot total. It is also a very low pitch, probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 3/12 or 4/12.
 
DRTDEVL said:
I inquired and was told about $1k more for standing seam.

If these numbers seem quite low, it is a very simple roof, one peak, a separate peaked roof on the garage, ridge vent, 1 chimney, approximately 1800 square foot total. It is also a very low pitch, probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 3/12 or 4/12.
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If they are doing ss for a grand more, do it.
That said I don't see how they can? Unless it's commercial snap together. Which would take a lot of time on install out.
That said, better then shingles, way better then through fastened roofing.
 
Grnjp92 said:
If they are doing ss for a grand more, do it.
That said I don't see how they can? Unless it's commercial snap together. Which would take a lot of time on install out.
That said, better then shingles, way better then through fastened roofing.
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Maybe it's the "good neighbor" discount? The contractor is the guy who bought the house across the street and is currently doing a massive addition to fit his entire family with their 10 foster children inside. He's got a pretty good reputation here in the county for good work, and is not really hurting for work, either. There will be about a 4-6 week lead time right now to start the project from the time I agree to it, even with the complete slowdown in construction locally.

His crews will definitely know where to find us, and whatever work is done, he will have to stare at for the next however many years he lives there.
 
Standing seam or hidden fastener metal shingle (looks like cedar shake.)

I have both. Not cheap, but worth it I think. I love the pitter patter of rain on a metal roof. Just lulls you right to sleep at night.
 
DRTDEVL said:
Maybe it's the "good neighbor" discount? The contractor is the guy who bought the house across the street and is currently doing a massive addition to fit his entire family with their 10 foster children inside. He's got a pretty good reputation here in the county for good work, and is not really hurting for work, either. There will be about a 4-6 week lead time right now to start the project from the time I agree to it, even with the complete slowdown in construction locally.

His crews will definitely know where to find us, and whatever work is done, he will have to stare at for the next however many years he lives there.
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Ask to see a job in progress. That will let you know what he's installing.
On my roof that I showed you a picture of, each of the ribs were closed by hand. Now you can send a robot to do that job and it cuts time and effort off. But it's still time. Snap style, you just smack the rib down till it locks. Move on to the next.
 
Grnjp92 said:
Ask to see a job in progress. That will let you know what he's installing.
On my roof that I showed you a picture of, each of the ribs were closed by hand. Now you can send a robot to do that job and it cuts time and effort off. But it's still time. Snap style, you just smack the rib down till it locks. Move on to the next.
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I don't think he has a current metal roof job in progress, we are not that big of a city. He probably does maybe one of those every year? Most people just elect for asphalt shingles, and shop around for the cheapest price.
 
DRTDEVL said:
I don't think he has a current metal roof job in progress, we are not that big of a city. He probably does maybe one of those every year? Most people just elect for asphalt shingles, and shop around for the cheapest price.
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Ask for roofs he has done in the past. Any roofer confident in his work should have no problem giving you addresses as well as calling homeowners and asking if it's cool if you stop by. Assuming you can't see it from the street.
Also if you are only going to be in this house for 7 10 years, save your money, install shingles. Most potential buyers dont care about the roof. Color and age. That generally is what they see.
 
Metal roof. You must get snow and it is real satisfying watching the snow fall off of the roof I used to shovel. I just did mine and we got 4' of snow. It was so much nicer watching the snow slide off. Just my two cents.
 
DRTDEVL said:
I inquired and was told about $1k more for standing seam.

If these numbers seem quite low, it is a very simple roof, one peak, a separate peaked roof on the garage, ridge vent, 1 chimney, approximately 1800 square foot total. It is also a very low pitch, probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 3/12 or 4/12.
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That low of a pitch, I'd do steel.

Especially at the price you're getting.
 
I'm seeing people recommend furring strips

How big of a deal is it if I skip it?

I'm assuming we're taking 1x3s laid all the way across the roof at 4' or so spacing?

How would one walk on it after that?
 
rockmup said:
Yes.
Lay furring strips and install. You have the benefit of an air gap that also insulates
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Disagree.

Unless your house is pretty new, you probably need to see what's under the current roof.

Maybe in hot places a 1" uninsulated airgap matters, but for cold it makes no difference.

And my big concern (again, maybe a cold-weather problem) is walking on it. How does unsupported 24ga hold up to feet? 3' of snow? Seems like an invitation for flex and leaks. I guess people do it all the time, though...
 
subybaja said:
Disagree.

Unless your house is pretty new, you probably need to see what's under the current roof.

Maybe in hot places a 1" uninsulated airgap matters, but for cold it makes no difference.

And my big concern (again, maybe a cold-weather problem) is walking on it. How does unsupported 24ga hold up to feet? 3' of snow? Seems like an invitation for flex and leaks. I guess people do it all the time, though...
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They fir them vertically, one at the seam and one in the center with 1X4's.
Vertically because it causes an updraft that pulls the heat out. Or so it was explained to me by the roofers.
 
subybaja said:
Disagree.

Unless your house is pretty new, you probably need to see what's under the current roof.

Maybe in hot places a 1" uninsulated airgap matters, but for cold it makes no difference.

And my big concern (again, maybe a cold-weather problem) is walking on it. How does unsupported 24ga hold up to feet? 3' of snow? Seems like an invitation for flex and leaks. I guess people do it all the time, though...
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A pole barn or a steel building is a lot of unsupported 26-29 ga. Your making a frame with the steel and while it will distort a bit walking on 4 ft centers is not a big deal. If you read the install directions they tell you what your purlin spacing needs to be for a given roof load.

As far as the air gap, I've never bothered, always strip and install fresh. It will help with ice dams in cold weather because you have mostly decoupled the roof from the steel though.
 
rockmup said:
They fir them vertically, one at the seam and one in the center with 1X4's.
Vertically because it causes an updraft that pulls the heat out. Or so it was explained to me by the roofers.
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Never seen that.

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here is an example of metal roof lasting in harsh conditions ( abandoned for 25 yrs so far)

 
Grnjp92 said:
Ask for roofs he has done in the past. Any roofer confident in his work should have no problem giving you addresses as well as calling homeowners and asking if it's cool if you stop by. Assuming you can't see it from the street.
Also if you are only going to be in this house for 7 10 years, save your money, install shingles. Most potential buyers dont care about the roof. Color and age. That generally is what they see.
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^^^That. When we did ours, we asked about roofs he's done and got a stack of customers houses to go look at.

If this isn't going to be 15-20 years of residency, absolutely skip the metal. It is not cheap and is an investment for someone who's going to be there a while and doesn't want to worry about the roof again. There is some resale value, but only if the new buyer knows what they see.

X20 for ripping the old off. Even if only single layer, peace of mind is priceless to know what's underneath. You need to see the ply.
 
westracing01 said:
^^^That. When we did ours, we asked about roofs he's done and got a stack of customers houses to go look at.

If this isn't going to be 15-20 years of residency, absolutely skip the metal. It is not cheap and is an investment for someone who's going to be there a while and doesn't want to worry about the roof again. There is some resale value, but only if the new buyer knows what they see.

X20 for ripping the old off. Even if only single layer, peace of mind is priceless to know what's underneath. You need to see the ply.
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We will live here at least until our son graduates from high school... he's 6.:laughing:
 
If it is true standing seam then 1k more is a no brainer. We went with standing seam on our reno and it was 2 to 2.5 times asphalt. We have had big winds that tore the shit out of the asphalt roof on the guest house and the standing seam had no damage.
 
This is the stuff they are pushing locally, a kind of metal shingle. My HOA would never approve anything that stood out from the neighbors asphalt shingles.Yeah, I know fuck HOA's They can't be escaped around here.
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I'm not sold on the furing strips either for the climate here. Full rip off of shingles and do a new underlayment seems to be the way I'd go.

Mine roof needs it now as well, 5 or 6 years ago it was done. Thinking about the metal shingles as well. I did exposed fastener on my cabin and while the side we did turned out okay, the other side was a disaster due to the numb nuts I hired to do it. I still have anxiety over someone installing metal now.
 
rockmup said:
Thats not standing seam.
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that makes a lot more sense, never seen that going up
sounds like a good deal, extra layer of convection currents and such

all the pole barn tin I've tossed over shingles has been done as pictured, with the 2x4s screwed down flat, trying to get rafters but usually failing and only getting punky decking OSB
 
Metal. Standing seam.

Anything else is dumb in tornado alley.

Shoot, you might even get a deduction in insurance costs up there
 
For 1k like everyone else said go standing seam it was double here when mine got replaced for hail 2 years ago
 
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