Amazon Deals

[arse_sidewards]

This is sketchy IMO.

Is the hope that some customers forget because it's so cheap and those that don't forget to file a dispute after the latter date and it becomes too far in the past to dispute?

If that's the case I can see how they could submit fake orders using their own money (i.e. they pay themselves for nothing) to increase the ratio of "successful" deliveries in order to keep the scam going.

How do they fake the tracking if China Post isn't on board?

And what makes the customer service dolt think that it'll show up by some later date?

 

[bgaidan]

This is sketchy IMO.

Is the hope that some customers forget because it's so cheap and those that don't forget to file a dispute after the latter date and it becomes too far in the past to dispute?

If that's the case I can see how they could submit fake orders using their own money (i.e. they pay themselves for nothing) to increase the ratio of "successful" deliveries in order to keep the scam going.

How do they fake the tracking if China Post isn't on board?

And what makes the customer service dolt think that it'll show up by some later date?

I'm in the same boat. I really don't understand the scam.


There was one on the old site a few years ago for Miller welders that were way too cheap on ebay. Seller "shipped" them and provided tracking, but the tracking went to a completely different state and was probably just and envelope or something. But a tracking number that was shown delivered was enough to trick ebay/paypal's automated system and you'd have to get a real person on the phone and get them to see what was going on.


Here, I really don't get it unless they've found a way to spoof the tracking somehow, but you can put that number right in to China Post's site and it's valid.

I guess they're just hoping to string it along enough that Amazon releases some of the money and they can run before it blows up.

 

[kf4zht]

I'm in the same boat. I really don't understand the scam.


There was one on the old site a few years ago for Miller welders that were way too cheap on ebay. Seller "shipped" them and provided tracking, but the tracking went to a completely different state and was probably just and envelope or something. But a tracking number that was shown delivered was enough to trick ebay/paypal's automated system and you'd have to get a real person on the phone and get them to see what was going on.


Here, I really don't get it unless they've found a way to spoof the tracking somehow, but you can put that number right in to China Post's site and it's valid.

I guess they're just hoping to string it along enough that Amazon releases some of the money and they can run before it blows up.

So they hope for either the people who order and forget till its too late, or the people who are too stupid to request a refund.

Think of all the times you've seen someone complaining on FB, reddit, whatever about how its not fair that they are out some money and never bothered to talk to anyone - put a ticket in, do some paperwork, call a number. Intead they just want to complain. This is a good price point for those people. No one is going to be broke over a sub $10 roof rack and it appears to be too much work they will just mentally write it off.

 

[ExWrench]

The thing I don't get is how they get the tracking to "work" since clearly nothing was shipped to me and China Post isn't in the business of providing fraudulent tracking for some small time scammer and what's the angle on the scam since the seller account will wind up getting dinged by amazon to the tune of the refund amount.

Maybe they're using it as cover to ship assloads of fentanyl (or bootleg Apple products, or prohibited tiger penis powder, or ???) to a cut-out stateside? There must be some gain for them, I just don't know what it is.

 

[ProjectTwin]

Alright, here's a legit deal

I'm going to build a new computer for the first time in 23 years. Want to water cool it like I did my last one.

This case was $299.99 forever. It's 189 now.

Amazon.com

And this motherboard, normally 319, is 239.

Amazon.com

 

[bgaidan]

So they hope for either the people who order and forget till its too late, or the people who are too stupid to request a refund.

Think of all the times you've seen someone complaining on FB, reddit, whatever about how its not fair that they are out some money and never bothered to talk to anyone - put a ticket in, do some paperwork, call a number. Intead they just want to complain. This is a good price point for those people. No one is going to be broke over a sub $10 roof rack and it appears to be too much work they will just mentally write it off.

Yeah, but you only get so many strikes as a seller before Amazon nukes your account. Seems like a lot of effort for what I'd think is a couple hundred bucks at the end of the day.

 

[Rooney77]

Mine shows delivered and was not. Clicking for me refund now.

Amazon and usps have no tracking data but the china tracker says delivered. Even said it was taken to usps.

Oh well, nothing but a few minutes of time lost.

 

[ExWrench]

Mine shows delivered and was not. Clicking for me refund now.

Amazon and usps have no tracking data but the china tracker says delivered. Even said it was taken to usps.

So 300+ pounds of Chineseum won't show up by the 23rd (for < 40 bucks)?

Oh well, nothing but a few minutes of time lost.

Same here - it's like playing the lottery with a full refund if I lose.

 

[subybaja]

it's like playing the lottery with a full refund if I lose.

Nailed it perfectly. A waste of time that gets someone else money, and you get nothing. I'd get more out of those minutes watching Tiktokers shake that ass.

 

[Rooney77]

Same here - it's like playing the lottery with a full refund if I lose.

Excellent description. Already got my refund for losing the China rack lottery.

 

[rockmup]

Mine got officially canceled by Amazon and doesn't even exist in my order history anymore.

Same

 

[DMG]

Man on the internet tested that and found virtually no difference

Lol

 

[welndmn]

My rack said it was handed to me directly...
Chatted with Amazon and they refunded me and opened a case on the seller for scamming.

 

[landscraper]

My rack said it was handed to me directly...
Chatted with Amazon and they refunded me and opened a case on the seller for scamming.

Same thing with mine yesterday.

 

[Penetrode Offroad]

You guys are

 

[RunningProblem]

Yeah, but you only get so many strikes as a seller before Amazon nukes your account. Seems like a lot of effort for what I'd think is a couple hundred bucks at the end of the day.

If you paid with a credit card the seller might have obtained your card information and can sell it elsewhere. Nuke the account. The goal was credit card information.

 

[bgaidan]

If you paid with a credit card the seller might have obtained your card information and can sell it elsewhere. Nuke the account. The goal was credit card information.

Seller never sees credit card info on Amazon. That's kind of the point of the whole setup.

Now they do get your shipping address and email address so maybe it's just a data collection scheme for later scamming.

 

[DMG]

If you paid with a credit card the seller might have obtained your card information and can sell it elsewhere. Nuke the account. The goal was credit card information.

That’s not how Amazon works

 

[arse_sidewards]

If you paid with a credit card the seller might have obtained your card information and can sell it elsewhere. Nuke the account. The goal was credit card information.

The whole point of an eCommerce platform is that they middle man the transaction so you don't have to trust the 3rd party with your info and the 3rd party doesn't have to be set up to process CC payments.

 

[RunningProblem]

Did no one see the word MIGHT? Fuck me for having an idea. Got it. Amazon doesn’t give out credit card information. I kind of assumed 3rd parties got it, but apparently their scame was ‘sell them fake shit, collect a few grand before getting banned then do it again.’

 

[aczlan]

Did no one see the word MIGHT? Fuck me for having an idea. Got it. Amazon doesn’t give out credit card information. I kind of assumed 3rd parties got it, but apparently their scame was ‘sell them fake shit, collect a few grand before getting banned then do it again.’

Except that (especially for new sellers) Amazon holds the money until it is delivered plus X days, so the ONLY way such a seller gets ANY money from Amazon is if people order it, then don't tell Amazon that it was not delivered.

Aaron Z

 

[plym49.2]

Weird. Mine arrived today. The delivery person handed it to me directly. I am already off to sell it on CL.



(JK)

 

[Sceep]

 

[plym49.2]

Think I figured it out. Imaginary roof racks for imaginary wheelers.

 

[Rooney77]

Think I figured it out. Imaginary roof racks for imaginary wheelers.

You're a sad lonely little man that won't let go of that one checkers game in 1978 when you beat your older brother.

 

[ExWrench]

You're a sad lonely little man that won't let go of that one checkers game in 1978 when you beat your older brother.

 

[RunningProblem]

The crows feet I linked before roof rack talk began was apparently lost in the mail so I’m looking forward to them telling me they don’t have the sale item anymore and instead have the full priced one I can pay for.

 

[arse_sidewards]

They sent me a refund for the roof rack.

 

[Ebs]

4500 inverter generator for $565: Amazon.com

I think these are nearly the same as the HF 3500 inverter ones. I see them under a few different brands.

 

[M92PV4U]

You guys jinxed me.

Uhhhh no it wasn't