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Airshocks....ORI?

mobil1syn said:
so like this?

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yup
 
Then get the airshocks if that makes you happier.
 
crazybluerider said:
That's a problem I have on my buggy, especially in the rear. 100/125 in the front and 80/100 in the rear. 14" shock with 7" of ride.

I found a company that builds stainless sleeves that slide over the shock body under the slider and is suppose to help keep them from getting tore up. I haven't ordered a set yet though. The other thing we've sorta thought about is building an adapter ring to run 3" springs in the lower positions.
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there are adapters out there to run the larger diameter spring
 
crazybluerider said:
That's a problem I have on my buggy, especially in the rear. 100/125 in the front and 80/100 in the rear. 14" shock with 7" of ride.

I found a company that builds stainless sleeves that slide over the shock body under the slider and is suppose to help keep them from getting tore up. I haven't ordered a set yet though. The other thing we've sorta thought about is building an adapter ring to run 3" springs in the lower positions.
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Radflo used to make custom length coil sliders to help protect the shock body from bowing/soft springs. I have a set.....but I don't know that they do them anymore.
 
Bebop said:
Then get the airshocks if that makes you happier.
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not happier man...i am green to this level of build. Hence the kit. But trying to gain all the info I can. Hence making a thread about the options so others might be able to learn the good, bad, and ugly what works and why.
 
Fox 2.5 airshock

Fox 2.0 Coilover

After buying springs for the coilover they would be about the same price.

I've been leaning towards 2.5 coilovers to help get away from the spring buckling issue and I live closer to the desert, so I gotta at least make an attempt at going fast.
 
I should add, and it should be obvious, but it is easier to package an air shock than a coilover. It is easier for an airshock to clear frame tubes and tires when fully flexed out.
 
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I went with the 2.5" Kings. Last time i scaled it I was at 3230. I like the King valving compared to the 2.5 Fox on my other rig (4300lbs).
They dont bottom running between trails and they have smooth damping. It actually rides really well even without the sidewalls broken in.

ORI are nice when they are working right but i couldnt justify the cost.

FYI for your build, plan accordingly on your brake set up so you can run a reverse swing master/pedal. My math worked out where I needed the forward swing (7:1). packaging a Reverse swing will be much cleaner.
 

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YJ4Rox said:
Sorry I dont. Just a typical tube car build so i didnt start a thread. .
Hulse 2 seat trail
Chevy 60 front/ full float fab 9 rear 6.17/6.20-spools
2.4L ecotec with K04 turbo
Full manual TH350
Atlas 5.0
43 sticky SX
113" WB, 19" belly, 68" roof.
King 2.5x14
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It gets a lot of love on the Gram. Such a sweet rig..
 
I know they’re probably too big but this is a heck of a deal. Amazon has them for 314.00 or something too.
www.pirate4x4.com

Fox Air Shocks

Sold!!!
www.pirate4x4.com www.pirate4x4.com
 
I’m surprised that barrel springs aka bee-hive springs aren’t more popular on coil overs. I had the bowing spring problem rubbing my shocks until I got them and while they are large in diameter, they never touch the shock bodies!

Edit: I would run air shocks again, but yeah…ORI’s are supposed to be bad ass but I’ve yet to see them hang with tuned coil overs at half the price?
 
DesertCJ said:
I’m surprised that barrel springs aka bee-hive springs aren’t more popular on coil overs. I had the bowing spring problem rubbing my shocks until I got them and while they are large in diameter, they never touch the shock bodies!

Edit: I would run air shocks again, but yeah…ORI’s are supposed to be bad ass but I’ve yet to see them hang with tuned coil overs at half the price?
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Only real advantage to them is packaging and easier tuning...but that's the same with air shocks (since ORI's are just churched up air shocks anyway); they're just exorbitantly priced air shocks.
 
DesertCJ said:
I’m surprised that barrel springs aka bee-hive springs aren’t more popular on coil overs. I had the bowing spring problem rubbing my shocks until I got them and while they are large in diameter, they never touch the shock bodies!
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I never knew that was a thing. Looks like swift makes them in the sizes I need. I guess I'll be buying a set. my fronts have been less of an issue at 125 but the rear 100# lowers are terrible.
 
like these for instance


DesertCJ said:
I’m surprised that barrel springs aka bee-hive springs aren’t more popular on coil overs. I had the bowing spring problem rubbing my shocks until I got them and while they are large in diameter, they never touch the shock bodies!

Edit: I would run air shocks again, but yeah…ORI’s are supposed to be bad ass but I’ve yet to see them hang with tuned coil overs at half the price?
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Sean said:
Only real advantage to them is packaging and easier tuning...but that's the same with air shocks (since ORI's are just churched up air shocks anyway); they're just exorbitantly priced air shocks.
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the only advantage an ORI has is that its really good at masking poor suspension geometry since they are two air chambers that fight each other to stop movement.
 
mobil1syn said:
the only advantage an ORI has is that its really good at masking poor suspension geometry since they are two air chambers that fight each other to stop movement.
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I stand corrected.:beer:
 
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