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4,175 Posts #271 • Feb 24, 2013

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Edit:N.M. just saw the post on the ltlhotshot board..​

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2,748 Posts #272 • Feb 24, 2013ltlhotshot.myfreeforum.org :: IndexGod Bless AmericaSaveShare
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4,867 Posts #273 • Feb 24, 2013Thanks mike.. Brainfart on my end.. Ive been reading there for a while when i started taking cars here and there and whatnot with my old ramptruck..Those guys seem to be straight up and they dont sell the bs that other slingshot boards do.. Its enough to keep me away from doing it full time with my new truck.. Im at the age and point where i cant make mistakes in my income choices

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2,748 Posts #274 • Feb 24, 2013hotshot'n is a SHTF backup plan here too.God Bless AmericaSaveShare
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5,112 Posts Discussion Starter • #275 • Feb 25, 2013Ditto on the shtf backup.

Didn't know you were a lurker over there. The Internet is a small world!

I'm daydreaming about that new truck. I hope the devil I don't know doesn't screw me, which I know it could, but I'm really excited for some non-rotted tin and quiet power, and near doubling the MPGs.Last Minute Motorsports
Bro-Lite racing #5, Legends #571, UTV codog #901
koh19 crew: 4632
koh18 codog: 901, 4816 - crew: 928, 209, 4610
Mint17 pit crew: 4454, 946, 8199
koh16 codog: 2700 - crew: 572, 928, 4610
koh15 crew: 572

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2,748 Posts #276 • Feb 25, 2013 (Edited)

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Ditto on the shtf backup.

Didn't know you were a lurker over there. The Internet is a small world!

I'm daydreaming about that new truck. I hope the devil I don't know doesn't screw me, which I know it could, but I'm really excited for some non-rotted tin and quiet power, and near doubling the MPGs.​

ive read up on some questions there a few times but never registered or seen any thread of yours. whats the new rig?

it is a small world. i have a feeling ive seen you before at an RCrocks race. im thinking my friend eric may have been next to you in the pits one cold windy day a 2 yrs ago racing pinky,the 4 cylinder pink toyota from mass at the time. still havent found my 19mm gear wrench! :lol:God Bless AmericaSaveShare
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5,112 Posts Discussion Starter • #277 • Feb 25, 2013 (Edited)Eric moved down to VA, didn't he?
If you were at a race in the last two years, chances are very good. I codrive 571, and we only missed a couple races. That might deserve past tense, 572 is under construction and is a single seater.


new ride is a '07 quad cab cab & chassis with a 9.5' CM flatbed on it. 6.7/6sp/4x2, white. NC truck, no rust. many many new parts 30k ago, has 350k on it. Was a hot shot truck. Looks like new. I don't want to wait the 2.5 weeks that I scheduled myself for.Last Minute Motorsports
Bro-Lite racing #5, Legends #571, UTV codog #901
koh19 crew: 4632
koh18 codog: 901, 4816 - crew: 928, 209, 4610
Mint17 pit crew: 4454, 946, 8199
koh16 codog: 2700 - crew: 572, 928, 4610
koh15 crew: 572

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2,748 Posts #278 • Feb 25, 2013thats him.


post some pics of the new rig when ya can.God Bless AmericaSaveShare
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5,112 Posts Discussion Starter • #279 • Mar 29, 2013Pirate for sale threads for the part-out:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/axles...rw-wheels.html
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/engin...me-extras.html
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...me-extras.html

CompD part-out thread where everything gets to be in one place:
Parting truck - 97 P7100 24v 13sp, plus some extras - Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST TogetherLast Minute Motorsports
Bro-Lite racing #5, Legends #571, UTV codog #901
koh19 crew: 4632
koh18 codog: 901, 4816 - crew: 928, 209, 4610
Mint17 pit crew: 4454, 946, 8199
koh16 codog: 2700 - crew: 572, 928, 4610
koh15 crew: 572

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5,112 Posts Discussion Starter • #280 • Mar 29, 2013

mike_belben said:
post some pics of the new rig when ya can.​

 

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1,869 Posts #281 • Mar 29, 2013Pimpin. Any results from the autopsy yet?

Whats the deal with the 3rd gen on tow bar?

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518 Posts #282 • Mar 29, 2013Looks like an Eagle to me also.I'm seeing some yard work in somebody's future.SaveShare
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1,150 Posts #283 • Mar 30, 2013I can't help but want to see the roadranger behind the 6.7. Such a nice, new truck to cut up though. Is it auto or 6 speed? Guessing the latter.SaveShare
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5,112 Posts Discussion Starter • #284 • Mar 30, 20136sp, with a little noise in 5th and a little gear tooth on the magnet.

New trucks are too quiet for the RTOO and it has 3.42 gears so I don't need tall OD. I'll look for an RTLO next time - helical cut gears.

2500 QC short bed has no heart. It's getting a 12v. It was born a CR5.9 and some gasoline in the tank took the rings out. It's my buddy's, for his wife. He's got a twin to my 97 (that he's doing tranny work on but no Eaton yet).

No head pull yet.

I DD an 87 Eagle, and I've got an 84 parts car 258/4speed and the white 84 that I think you see is a 258/auto and needs a motor. I want to do either a 5.3/4l60/231 or a 4.0/5sp/231 and put it on 33 ATs or 31 muds of some sort.Last Minute Motorsports
Bro-Lite racing #5, Legends #571, UTV codog #901
koh19 crew: 4632
koh18 codog: 901, 4816 - crew: 928, 209, 4610
Mint17 pit crew: 4454, 946, 8199
koh16 codog: 2700 - crew: 572, 928, 4610
koh15 crew: 572

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116 Posts #285 • Mar 30, 2013does that cam have a lift pump lobe? what kind of fuel mpg were you getting on the truck before blow up?...
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5,112 Posts Discussion Starter • #286 • Mar 31, 2013It does.

Many are "in line" for the cam pending inspection.

I was getting 15 highway 12 city empty, 10-11 at 22k 9-10 at 26k. 4.10s cost empty MPGsLast Minute Motorsports
Bro-Lite racing #5, Legends #571, UTV codog #901
koh19 crew: 4632
koh18 codog: 901, 4816 - crew: 928, 209, 4610
Mint17 pit crew: 4454, 946, 8199
koh16 codog: 2700 - crew: 572, 928, 4610
koh15 crew: 572

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5,112 Posts Discussion Starter • #287 • Oct 7, 2013Waiting to pick up a crate to ship this setup off to Tacoma, WA to be installed in another 2nd gen Cummins Ram.Last Minute Motorsports
Bro-Lite racing #5, Legends #571, UTV codog #901
koh19 crew: 4632
koh18 codog: 901, 4816 - crew: 928, 209, 4610
Mint17 pit crew: 4454, 946, 8199
koh16 codog: 2700 - crew: 572, 928, 4610
koh15 crew: 572

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11,780 Posts #288 • Oct 7, 2013

Mr. Mindless said:
New trucks are too quiet for the RTOO and it has 3.42 gears so I don't need tall OD. I'll look for an RTLO next time - helical cut gears.​

For the longest time I wondered why they didn't do away with o/d and just gear the light duty trucks higher with a lower gear spread. Finally figured it out, low reduction gears are heavy and beat the shit out of synchros.

With the 3.42s I'd bet it cruises nice in direct.
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5,112 Posts Discussion Starter • #289 • Oct 8, 2013I often wondered the same.

5th in my g56 has a chipped tooth judging from noise under load and the tooth fragment I found when I changed the oil. It definitely would tow Really well in direct but it gets noisy when towing under about 1700 so it doesn't get used much. The power band of the 6.7 is flat and fat so it doesn't make too much difference.Last Minute Motorsports
Bro-Lite racing #5, Legends #571, UTV codog #901
koh19 crew: 4632
koh18 codog: 901, 4816 - crew: 928, 209, 4610
Mint17 pit crew: 4454, 946, 8199
koh16 codog: 2700 - crew: 572, 928, 4610
koh15 crew: 572

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866 Posts #290 • Feb 4, 2014Just pulled the trigger on the single O/D RTO9513, actually a few of them.

This thread has def ben some great help/inspiration. Wish me luck!

And do you know where to find a link to the stock RTO ratios? Google is no help.Nailed a retread to my feet..and prayed for better weather..SaveShare
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445 Posts #291 • Feb 4, 2014I just went to the Eaton literature center; Literature Center

And then typed "Rto-9513" into the search box. The third item on the page is an excel spreadsheet titled "Ratio Chart - Legacy Products". Downloaded it and verified that the RTO-9513 was there!
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866 Posts #292 • Feb 4, 2014 (Edited)Eaton website, huh? Who woulda thought to look there? I'd been googling Eaton RTO9513 ratio, etc...over and over again..like a monkey fuckin a football. Thanks!Nailed a retread to my feet..and prayed for better weather..SaveShare
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5,112 Posts Discussion Starter • #293 • Feb 5, 2014yup, it's amazing the literature that's on the actual mfg website for this HD stuff!

The G56 in my new truck continues to make some unhappy noises in 5th, I really should start looking at those ratios and weights and ratings and sizes again.

I talked to the guy that I sold my swap to, he was to the point of trimming the motor mount to fit the starter about 10 days ago so hopefully she's back on the road here soon.Last Minute Motorsports
Bro-Lite racing #5, Legends #571, UTV codog #901
koh19 crew: 4632
koh18 codog: 901, 4816 - crew: 928, 209, 4610
Mint17 pit crew: 4454, 946, 8199
koh16 codog: 2700 - crew: 572, 928, 4610
koh15 crew: 572

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72rockcruiser said:
Eaton website, huh? Who woulda thought to look there? I'd been googling Eaton RTO9513 ratio, etc...over and over again..like a monkey fuckin a football. Thanks!​

Is top gear .74 or .86 on those? If it's the former, it's probably the perfect trans as far as ratios go. I think the .62 in the RTOO in this topic is a bit excessive and overly noisy from the vids I've seen.


The ratio chart is on Eaton's website but it appears everything is in Excell spreadsheets these days and I don't have a program to open those with on this laptop.SaveShare
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Is top gear .74 or .86 on those? If it's the former, it's probably the perfect trans as far as ratios go. I think the .62 in the RTOO in this topic is a bit excessive and overly noisy from the vids I've seen.


The ratio chart is on Eaton's website but it appears everything is in Excell spreadsheets these days and I don't have a program to open those with on this laptop.
.87 it says.

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2,748 Posts #296 • Feb 5, 201447re has a .69 OD and with 3.55 gears i still often wish it was longer for flat cruising. i think .62 is spot on for a truck on stock height tires if you can stand the countershaft noise. the 12:1 ish low gear makes up for the tall axle ratio.God Bless AmericaSaveShare
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5,112 Posts Discussion Starter • #297 • Feb 6, 2014I've got 3.42s in the new truck, the G56 top gear is really taller than it needs but it's still fully useful. On the whole I'd rather make up for it in the axle than in the trans but it's easier said than done when you have deep gears to start. I didn't want to do a trans AND gears so with the 4.10s in the old truck the double over was just what the doctor ordered.Last Minute Motorsports
Bro-Lite racing #5, Legends #571, UTV codog #901
koh19 crew: 4632
koh18 codog: 901, 4816 - crew: 928, 209, 4610
Mint17 pit crew: 4454, 946, 8199
koh16 codog: 2700 - crew: 572, 928, 4610
koh15 crew: 572

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I got an old 5-speed Spicer for my '90 Dodge but haven't been able to find a cheap flywheel housing (or flywheel for that matter). I have a #3 housing which is more than enough room for the kind of clutch I'd need, but the Spicer clutch housing is #2 and I don't think I'll be able to find a #3 for it. I haven't even tried calling a big truck junkyard since I just can't imagine that having the parts pulled would be anywhere near my price range (I got the trans itself for $50).
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2,748 Posts #299 • Jul 29, 2016 (Edited)

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Theyre pretty similar in ratios, the 5052 is just bigger. If you need to double clutch a 5052 the syncros are smoked and they really arent cheap to overhaul because of the syncros. Same deal with any of the 7 speed spicers. A roadranger sliding clutch otoh is about $40. Bearing and seal kits are like $600.God Bless AmericaSaveShare
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9,728 Posts #300 • Jun 25, 2018So, I think I am sticking a Super10 behind a 5.9L going into a C60 I am building... any part numbers you remember?
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Youre the only person on earth who knows all the details of your life, and thus, you are the most qualified captain of your own ship. Dont worry about justifying your course for pirate's sake. There's always someone here to tell you that you did it wrong.

 

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One done. 15 pages and 1.5 of effort and moved over some broken images. Seems like a waste of time having done that, but I think it was by far my most popular build on Pirate so it seems like I should at least get the content here ...

 

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Thanks for moving that over here. A good chunk of the pics no longer work, and I would like to upgrade mine

 

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It'll take a fair bit more work to put pictures back in - if there's any thread I'll make the effort on, it's this thread though. Not a lot of down time with a new house and new shop to devote to that!