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10% done with rona? How many of the people do you know who have had it?

I'm part of a crew of 25 folk who just finished a 14 day quarantine in Balikpapan, Indonesia. Had to do the quarantine to enter the country. PCR swab test before quarantine, everyone was negative. We each had our own room. Food was brought to us and left outside the door. All the people bringing food were wrapped in full suits, masks, face shields, safety glasses.

We got a PCR swab test at the end of the 14 days.............................two guys popped positive.

I have a funny feeling there are a lot of false positive tests out there.
 
About half the people at my work (20ish) Me, my GF, her nephew. So far nobody has died.
 
Ryno said:
I'm just missing the part where that article is at all credible. Anyone can dig up a blurb that confirms their bias. One could interpret the very same article you linked completely differently. They could use it as proof that while Covid-19 has killed 200k, lock downs, distancing, working from home and masks have saved 200k from deaths of other causes. (Not saying that's the case, just an example of different trains of thought).

I keep seeing "falsified cause of death" as proof of a "hoax". People can't seem to grasp that Covid can kill indirectly. Things like a fatal fall from a ladder because they were too sick to be up it in the first place. A fatal stroke because of unknown clotting due to Covid etc.

I'm really neutral on the whole thing. I pay such little attention to the news (and these threads) that I'm often out of the loop on the latest restrictions.
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john hop link since your blind. https://web.archive.org/web/2020112...1/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

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Consider the following figures- US Total deaths by year per CDC:

2013: 2,596,993
2014: 2,626,418
2015: 2,712,630
2016: 2,744,248
2017: 2,813,503
2018: 2,839,205
2019: 2,855,000
2020: as of 11/14 total deaths= 2,512,880

At present the US is experiencing a 1.12% increase in overall mortality rates for 2020- not good- pandemicky numbers to be sure.

However, last year, 2019, there was also a 1.12% increase. Did we miss a pandemic in 2019?

But wait it’s even "scarier"- 2018 saw a 1.22% increase in mortality rates, 2017 saw a 1.24% increase, 2016 1.27% increase, 2015 1.27% increase, 2014 1.29% increase- all exceeding 2020’s increase in mortality rate- so does this mean we have had pandemics for the last 7 years?
 
tracyb said:
john hop link since your blind. https://web.archive.org/web/2020112...1/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

(sorry couldn't find crayon font for this that is a copy paste)

Consider the following figures- US Total deaths by year per CDC:

2013: 2,596,993
2014: 2,626,418
2015: 2,712,630
2016: 2,744,248
2017: 2,813,503
2018: 2,839,205
2019: 2,855,000
2020: as of 11/14 total deaths= 2,512,880

At present the US is experiencing a 1.12% increase in overall mortality rates for 2020- not good- pandemicky numbers to be sure.

However, last year, 2019, there was also a 1.12% increase. Did we miss a pandemic in 2019?

But wait it’s even "scarier"- 2018 saw a 1.22% increase in mortality rates, 2017 saw a 1.24% increase, 2016 1.27% increase, 2015 1.27% increase, 2014 1.29% increase- all exceeding 2020’s increase in mortality rate- so does this mean we have had pandemics for the last 7 years?
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the problem with going back too far in numbers is the population, not just raw population but also population age distribution as the baby boomers hit the age where natural death just happens. so then we've got to normalize those numbers by age and demographic and such.....which is what the JHU study did when it found no increase :rasta:

Doom!

DOOOOOOOOM!!!

that doesn't mean the virus isn't a hoax, not by a long shot. it DOES point out to the numbers being heavily overinflated.

couldn't possibly be related to the $3,000,000,000,000.00. difference between the second massive gap between the house and senate. that would be weird.

almost as weird as the US Influenza deaths going from a low level to Zero after the first stimulus (the one with the covid pay bump) was passed.
 
and if we really do hit 300k excess deaths this year, then we should total out handily above 3M deaths.

guess we'll see in 2 years, or hopefully 1.5 by now
 
Maybe I have regular contact with 20 people.....Three have had covid, all were younger than 40 and in good health ,all got very ill for a week with longer lasting effects like loss of smell. Covid has made very little impact around this rural county, much more so in the neareast city and suburbs...
 
Pretty sure I’ve got it. Had a “hangover” Saturday even though I didn’t drink much, turned into some sinus pressure and slight body aches Sat PM. My wife and kids had colds last weekend/week so I assumed it was that, then I lost my taste/smell yesterday. Woke up today feeling relatively fine, just have a slightly runny nose that I’ve had for the last 4-5 days and can’t taste my coffee.
 
I know a handful that have had it. Most said it was kind of like a bad flu. All survived.
 
My Uncle died from it. 76 yo and type one, but otherwise healthy. ICU for 12 days...
Kid I grew up with (47yo) died from it, not sure what his health situation was.
I had it, fukin bad flu but no hospital time.
My 6 yo had a mild fever, wife no symptoms at all.
Friends father died from it, 65 or so... ICU for 8 or 10 days...

Couple other people I know but not real well, acquaintances vs real friends.
 
Sceep said:
How many of the people do you know who have had it?

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have had 3 people in our plant test positive but i didn't know them.
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Same type thing here. I don't know anyone personally, but a couple of people that work at the same places our daughters work at.
 
Wife's coworker's son, an NCAA football player, tested positive last week. Since then the father has also tested positive.
The mom has the symptoms as well but tested negative. Tested again yesterday and should get results tomorrow.
If she had tested positive my wife would have had to stay home for 2 weeks.
All three of them had 2 of these three symptoms: fever, headache, cough. Each had a different combo of 2.
 
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