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Windows XP Source Code Reportedly Leaked, Posted to 4chan

So the Server 2003 mention is the real concern here.
 
bdkw1 said:
Since I'm a Luddite and have no fucking idea what your talking about I'll just have to stick with this.

Say it with me, don't let your GF know the password to your CNC computer.

Even though I told her explicitly to never connect it to the internet under any circumstances she felt the need to. Then Microsloth does what it does best, take something that works good and fuck it up.
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This is another reason why I am happy I went with Linux......
 
bgaidan said:
Since you seem to know a bit...

I've tried to set up a VM XP install a few times and got frustrated and gave up.

I have an old Roland vinyl plotter that ONLY has XP drivers and only works on parallel (I can get it work on a USB to parallel adapter). As far as I've found, there's zero chance of it working on any later version of windows. I currently use an old XP laptop with the network card disabled and just transfer files via flash drive. The laptop is slow and buggy, I don't have a good place to put it so I just end up sitting on the floor when I'm setting up a print, and it's just an all around PITA. The plotter is a workhorse and I don't use it enough to justify buying something newer, but it's sure nice to have.

How TF can I set up a virtual install on my Win7 (I know) desktop that will let me run the XP drivers?
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For Win7 I would recommend either using VirtualBox (https://www.virtualbox.org/) or seeing if you can find a cheap or old license of VMWare Workstation. Win7 had some form of hypervisor built in, but it wasn't the best.

If you are running Windows 10 I would just use the built-in Hyper-V app that comes with Windows. If you are using Hpyer-V you can use Microsoft's Disk2VHD utility and clone the XP image into a VHD file, import it into Hyper-V and off you go. (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/disk2vhd).

If you don't want to fuck with your existing computer, check out some thrift stores and find another desktop. Install Windows 10 on it, and run your XP VM with it. I've found some great machines for about $25 that were capable of upgrading to Windows 10 for free and I've used them as media PCs for the TVs.
 
Poke said:
So the Server 2003 mention is the real concern here.
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Both are of concern. There may be carry over code between Server 2003 and 2012, 1026, 2019 and also XP, Win7, and Win 10. Vulnerabilities found in workstation OS's are probably of more concern because users are the primary attack vector, via email, web browsing, etc. Once a foothold is gained on a workstation, then the attacker would pivot to other workstations and/or servers from there.
 
I just inherited an ancient laptop that had XP on it. It was an UPGRADE... from Win98! :eek:

I might give it to the kids to play with... or install Win7 on it first.
 
Blacksheep10 said:
I got a bit into trying to figure out what a VM was on wiki, I glazed over and quit reading. My cnc is still on an xp machine in a shop that doesn't have internet available. I back up my cad and cut files on thumb drives, but no other backups.
Can you give me a caveman description of what a VM is, how it would operate an old machine that runs on old stuff, and how I transfer my current programs over (don't have my CAD disk anymore, can get another program I'm sure)
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a virtual machine is exactly what the name implies.

A virtual computer that lets you run another operating system inside your primary one.
So your entire hard drive in your XP machine just becomes a file. You can move that file to any new computer, open it, and it will boot your windows xp machine.

It's the go to solution for needing to run obsolete machines and software on new hardware, because if your current machine dies you will not get XP to run on more modern hardware, the drivers simply don't exist.

So here's what I usually do.

I create a virtual machine with a disk size large enough to accept the donor machine's data. As you can pick hardware emulation options I pick whatever disk controller mimics what's already in there. on XP machines it's usually PIIX, it always works.
Pull donor drive, attach to new host machine with USB drive adapter, boot virtual machine into a disk cloning software, clone attached donor drive into my new virtual disk image.
Disconnect donor drive, boot new virtual machine, put donor drive away safely.

boom, all your old software on new hardware and you didn't have to setup all your shit again.
Keep the new disk image forever.

Looking in my virtual machine list I have 5 different computers in my laptop.
A win 98, 2 win xps and 2 win 7s.
Win 98 for classic gaming, the rest exist to support obsolete software, mostly for factory car software.

shit's free.
https://www.virtualbox.org/

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also, wit hthe magic of teamviewer I could set this up for anyone over the internet in about an hour.
 
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87manche said:
a virtual machine is exactly what the name implies.

A virtual computer that lets you run another operating system inside your primary one.
So your entire hard drive in your XP machine just becomes a file. You can move that file to any new computer, open it, and it will boot your windows xp machine.

It's the go to solution for needing to run obsolete machines and software on new hardware, because if your current machine dies you will not get XP to run on more modern hardware, the drivers simply don't exist.

So here's what I usually do.

I create a virtual machine with a disk size large enough to accept the donor machine's data. As you can pick hardware emulation options I pick whatever disk controller mimics what's already in there. on XP machines it's usually PIIX, it always works.
Pull donor drive, attach to new host machine with USB drive adapter, boot virtual machine into a disk cloning software, clone attached donor drive into my new virtual disk image.
Disconnect donor drive, boot new virtual machine, put donor drive away safely.

boom, all your old software on new hardware and you didn't have to setup all your shit again.
Keep the new disk image forever.

Looking in my virtual machine list I have 5 different computers in my laptop.
A win 98, 2 win xps and 2 win 7s.
Win 98 for classic gaming, the rest exist to support obsolete software, mostly for factory car software.

shit's free.
https://www.virtualbox.org/

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also, wit hthe magic of teamviewer I could set this up for anyone over the internet in about an hour.
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If I remember correctly you mess with programming for the older BMWs right? I had an XP machine running INPA but it suffered terminal failure last year. I havent redone it yet just because I have other shit to deal with. What is the best route to go for module programming and diagnostic shit? Is INPA still the best route? I thought I saw another program out there but ai dont remember what it was. Ive got an LKM and an ABS module to program the VIN into.
 
87manche said:
a virtual machine is exactly what the name implies.

A virtual computer that lets you run another operating system inside your primary one.
So your entire hard drive in your XP machine just becomes a file. You can move that file to any new computer, open it, and it will boot your windows xp machine.
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Thanks. I have a great computer guy in town, I might have to drop my tower off with him and get another one and have him clone my old drive/put it in the gun safe. He set my fawked up business computer up with 10 and a new hard drive last year, I'm sure he can do the same with this stuff.
That explanation made it WAY easier than wiki was making it sound.
 
300sniper said:
I’m trying to figure out how to build a new PC to run off it. I’ve got a CNC machine that uses it and my hard drive finally shit the bed. It never gets connected to the internet.
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What control is the CNC using that needs XP?
 
Stuck said:
If I remember correctly you mess with programming for the older BMWs right? I had an XP machine running INPA but it suffered terminal failure last year. I havent redone it yet just because I have other shit to deal with. What is the best route to go for module programming and diagnostic shit? Is INPA still the best route? I thought I saw another program out there but ai dont remember what it was. Ive got an LKM and an ABS module to program the VIN into.
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the easy button is the bimmergeeks protool software.

inpa/ista and the standard tools on a pc is still the best.
nothing beats factory, or the interface of a PC to manipulate files.

get a bimmergeeks cable, and spend $5 on a 30 day mega subscription.
here's all the software.
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1681573

alternatively pay for a mega subscription and I'll upload my virtual machine file to it.
or find another place for me to upload a 100ish GB file to.
then you just put virtualbox on something and open my machine.
 
300sniper said:
Old/custom version of Mach 3
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You can run Mach3 on windows 10 with an external motion controller. I picked up a decent size router for next to nothing earlier this year. The PO didn't give me the old desktop with it, but he let me get on and copy the config and license files. I bought a UNC100 motion controller for ~$120 - took about 10 minutes to install the driver and change the port in mach and it works perfectly.


Basically, the problem is that win7/10 no longer support parallel and you can't just use a simple USB to parallel converter - you need an actual motion controller. Now it goes Win10 -> usb -> UNC100 -> parallel cable -> gecko G540 stepper drive.


Assuming your drives are compatible, it's a pretty cheap upgrade to get off XP.
 
FordFascist said:
30% of touch screen systems were using a ported version of XP as of 2019 (think ATMs and Boarding Pass kiosks).

Many companies are running Server 2000 and server 2003 instances for applications that are no longer supported (like Peoplesoft). Most of those are on VMs air-gapped from the network and are using some version of VDI to access those servers.
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This.

Many EMC storage systems use XP embedded :homer:
 
Blacksheep10 said:
I got a bit into trying to figure out what a VM was on wiki, I glazed over and quit reading. My cnc is still on an xp machine in a shop that doesn't have internet available. I back up my cad and cut files on thumb drives, but no other backups.
Can you give me a caveman description of what a VM is, how it would operate an old machine that runs on old stuff, and how I transfer my current programs over (don't have my CAD disk anymore, can get another program I'm sure)
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Ya know when you open the calculator on your phone, but you're not actually holding a calculator? Kinda the same thing.
 
Anyone use office 365? My company email (godaddy domain) uses office 365 and it seems to be down.. hacked?
 
Fullsize80cherokee said:
Anyone use office 365? My company email (godaddy domain) uses office 365 and it seems to be down.. hacked?
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Yep, got the email a couple hours ago from IT

Users may not be able access multiple Microsoft 365 services (Team, Outlook, One-drive, etc…)

This is a Microsoft Global Outage.

Microsoft is working to get this back up and running ASAP.
 
87manche said:
a virtual machine is exactly what the name implies.

A virtual computer that lets you run another operating system inside your primary one.
So your entire hard drive in your XP machine just becomes a file. You can move that file to any new computer, open it, and it will boot your windows xp machine.

It's the go to solution for needing to run obsolete machines and software on new hardware, because if your current machine dies you will not get XP to run on more modern hardware, the drivers simply don't exist.

So here's what I usually do.

I create a virtual machine with a disk size large enough to accept the donor machine's data. As you can pick hardware emulation options I pick whatever disk controller mimics what's already in there. on XP machines it's usually PIIX, it always works.
Pull donor drive, attach to new host machine with USB drive adapter, boot virtual machine into a disk cloning software, clone attached donor drive into my new virtual disk image.
Disconnect donor drive, boot new virtual machine, put donor drive away safely.

boom, all your old software on new hardware and you didn't have to setup all your shit again.
Keep the new disk image forever.

Looking in my virtual machine list I have 5 different computers in my laptop.
A win 98, 2 win xps and 2 win 7s.
Win 98 for classic gaming, the rest exist to support obsolete software, mostly for factory car software.

shit's free.
https://www.virtualbox.org/

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also, wit hthe magic of teamviewer I could set this up for anyone over the internet in about an hour.
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Dredging up old shit here. At the end of your post you are saying no problem in a short amount of time over team viewer, but this old dinosaur has not been hooked to the Internet in 15 years. The local guy once about 250 to make my virtual machine, he’s only done it one other time for an XP computer. If that is not way out of line let me know
 
Blacksheep10 said:
Dredging up old shit here. At the end of your post you are saying no problem in a short amount of time over team viewer, but this old dinosaur has not been hooked to the Internet in 15 years. The local guy once about 250 to make my virtual machine, he’s only done it one other time for an XP computer. If that is not way out of line let me know
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I would not connect an unpatched/out of date device to the internet that has any important data on it personally. If the option exists to do it all offline for the sum of money you mention, I'd go that route. That is a paranoid IT guys outlook with a security background. If you pay him for that service, you have some assurance on follow through and no fuckups or data loss, nothing is on you. If you have someone do it remotely (not doubting anyone's prowess here), you're still on the hook for setting up all the hardware to pull it off- if something goes wrong you are SOL. I'm sure others will disagree, so ymmv.
 
I have a computer in the house with XP ,keep financial stuff one it, off the net.

I have a bunch of test systems at work still running XP , scramble to find another POS XP system when one craps itself , low priority until they crash then it get attention.
 
Blacksheep10 said:
Dredging up old shit here. At the end of your post you are saying no problem in a short amount of time over team viewer, but this old dinosaur has not been hooked to the Internet in 15 years. The local guy once about 250 to make my virtual machine, he’s only done it one other time for an XP computer. If that is not way out of line let me know
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It's literally no more difficult than a windows install. On a modern machine loading straight from an XP iso file I can install XP in less than 30 minutes.

now, if he sold you vmware or something that's different. the basic vmware is like $150.
if it's virtualbox, you paid him $250 an hour.

assuming he didn't setup anything else in there for you.
 
Linux and Android are both open source. I don't see the big deal.
 
Eric said:
Linux and Android are both open source. I don't see the big deal.
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because xp was never intended to be open source, so wasn't peer reviewed for hidden vulnerabilities before the source code was made public?
 
87manche said:
because xp was never intended to be open source, so wasn't peer reviewed for hidden vulnerabilities before the source code was made public?
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Maybe. It was never clear that Microsoft engineers actually understood how XP worked.
 
Eric said:
Maybe. It was never clear that Microsoft engineers actually understood how XP worked.
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if you ever spent a bunch of time with NT and win2k, you'd see they knew exactly how it worked.
win2k was NT 5, XP was NT5.1
they just added multimedia shit to win2k.
 
I think there are still lots of POS systems that use xp... I wouldn't be concerned about xp providing hints for cracking 10 though.
 
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