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Why are my waggy/J10 springs different

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Everything I've read, and remember from 15 years ago, they should be the same. Wanted to run these springs all around on my YJ, but need help sorting out what I have.

J10 are all around thicker, less arch, and have different eyes than the waggy. Short of throwing them on and seeingwhat happens... how do yall think they will act on a 'stock' YJ. What should go on front/rear.

leaf-spring-dimensions.jpg


1985 Wagoneer:
A. 22.5"​
B. 24.5"​
C. 8.125"​
D. 1.5"​
E. 42.75"​
1980 J10
A. 22.5"​
B. 24.5"​
C. 5.9375"​
D. 1.8125"​
E. 45​
Waggy on top
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J10 are all around thicker, less arch...

Is it just the pic, or are the leafs on the J10 slightly thicker?
Reading...


I'm assuming all used packs? The newest waggy is 30 year old and the newest J10 is 35 or 40? I could see some flattening over time or someone adding a leaf or custom leaf packs in that time...

Used leaf springs are exactly "toss it on and find out"
 
Started reading and saw a picture and numbers and got sidetracked.

I’d run the J10 up front and Wag out back.
 
15yr ago back when people were expected to actually put in the work to pull apart a leaf pack and then put it back together a few times mix and matching until they got the results they wanted those springs would have been considered interchangeable.
 
15yr ago back when people were expected to actually put in the work to pull apart a leaf pack and then put it back together a few times mix and matching until they got the results they wanted those springs would have been considered interchangeable.
And the first trip after you get it right one of em breaks.

Maybee start with some brand new 44044's?
 
Wagoneers

"1962-73 Wagoneers use 22 x 22 x 2 1/2 inch front springs with 9/16 ID bushings on both ends, and 26 x26 x 2 1/2 inch rear springs with 7/8 ID bushings on the post and 9/16 ID bushings on the shackle.

1974-75 Wagoneers use 22 1/2 x 24 1/2 x 2 1/2 inch front springs with 9/16 ID bushings on both ends (the same as 1976 up), but 26 x 26 x 2 1/2 inch springs on the rear (the same as 1962-73). The kicker on the rear springs is that they have a 1 inch post mount instead of a 7/8 inch like the 62-73's - same spring - different bushing. The shackle bushing is the same 9/16 inch ID.

1976 and up Wagoneers use the 22 1/2 x 24 1/2 x 2 1/2 inch front spring with 9/16 inch bushings on both ends, and a 26 x 31 x 2 1/2 inch rear springs with 9/16 inch ID bushings on both ends. "

Trucks

"1962-69 trucks use 22 x 22 x 2 inch front springs with 7/8 inch post mounts and 9/16 inch shackle bushings, and 26 x 26 x 2 1/2 inch rear springs with a 7/8 post mount and 9/16 shackle bushings.

1970-73 trucks with a 119" wheel base use the same front spring and the 26 x 26 x 2 1/2 inch spring with a 1 inch post mount and a 9/16 inch shackle bushing.

1970-73 trucks with a 131" wheel base use the same front spring but a 26 x 31 x 2 1/2 inch rear spring with a 1 inch post mount and a 9/16 inch shackle bushing.

1974-75 trucks with a 119" W.B. use a 22 1/2 x 24 1/2 x 2 1/2 inch front spring with 9/16" bushings on both ends, but a 26 x 26 x 2 1/2 inch rear spring with 1 inch post mount and a 9/16 inch shackle bushing.

1974-75 trucks with a 131" W.B. use 22 1/2 x 24 1/2 x 2 1/2 inch front springs with 9/16 inch bushings on both ends and 26 x 31 x 2 1/2 inch rear springs with a 1 inch post mount and a 9/16 inch shackle bushing.

All 1976 and up trucks use 22 1/2 x 24 1/2 x 2 1/2 inch front springs with 9/16 inch bushings on both ends and 26 x 31 x 2 1/2 inch rear springs with 9/16 inch bushings on both ends.
 
The J10 and up trucks had 4 or 5 different configurations of 4 to 7 leaf packs, all at different rates.

Been researching this for my Scout. I want a 6 or 7 leaf pack. But I don't think they're really being made much can't find the Dorman ones anywhere.
 
And the first trip after you get it right one of em breaks.

Maybee start with some brand new 44044's?
I ran 44044s front and rear SUA on my YJ. It worked great!
 
They haven't made those in years.
No shit? Too bad.

I have a set off may rig stashed after I converted one end to coils. I have another set on it that will be coming off in the next month or 2. I had no idea they were a collectors item. I figured I was saving them to build a YJ for one of my kids.
 
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