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W.T.F. Kalifornia? The working class should just all go on strike until they kill off the state or changes are made

Yota Up said:
Of course I agree it's stupid. 1 smog check per year has worked forever so no need to change that.
Put it on a ballot and I'd vote on it. Other than that, what can I do?

On that note of caring about everything everywhere, everyone in every other state than CA should give a damn about our gun laws here, too, right?

But for this thread, in this case, I'm just talking about that particular attention whore on youtube that should have known what he was getting into before spending a house down payment on a truck and then whining about what comes with it.
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90k is a down payment on a house in cali?
 
Yota Up said:
1 smog check per year has worked forever so no need to change that.
Put it on a ballot and I'd vote on it. Other than that, what can I do?

On that note of caring about everything everywhere, everyone in every other state than CA should give a damn about our gun laws here, too, right?

But for this thread, in this case, I'm just talking about that particular attention whore on youtube that should have known what he was getting into before spending a house down payment on a truck and then whining about what comes with it.
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even 1 per year is too much (every other year for cars)
the failure rate for Smog Check is about level from 1 to 20 years old
every 5 years would be appropriate for personal, 2 years for commercial.

yes, others should care about what happens here. gun laws and others.
cancers spread and need to be stopped.

agreed he is long winded and an attention whore.
but he does have a valid gripe.
 
WLDWUN said:
that attitude is part of the problem.

it doesn't affect me, so why should I care?

having to smog a truck (or any vehicle) 4 times a year is just flat out wrong.
this is nothing more than another way for government to take money from those that have it.
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Its just yotaup being an attention seeking faggot. Watch this will get him stirred up.
 
Yota Up said:
Of course I agree it's stupid. 1 smog check per year has worked forever so no need to change that.
Put it on a ballot and I'd vote on it. Other than that, what can I do?

On that note of caring about everything everywhere, everyone in every other state than CA should give a damn about our gun laws here, too, right?

But for this thread, in this case, I'm just talking about that particular attention whore on youtube that should have known what he was getting into before spending a house down payment on a truck and then whining about what comes with it.
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He bought the truck in 2022. The law wasn't passed until after that. I guess his crystal ball wasn't working when he bought the truck. This is a direct attack on the working class and Independent truckers. Two smog checks a year is excessive for a commercial vehicle, four is outrageous. A large company can just buy some software to stay in compliance. A single truck owner is fucked by this.

If you don't care, then I guess you won't mind when prices go up even more to cover the overhead.
 
BDK said:
He bought the truck in 2022. The law wasn't passed until after that. I guess his crystal ball wasn't working when he bought the truck. This is a direct attack on the working class and Independent truckers. Two smog checks a year is excessive for a commercial vehicle, four is outrageous. A large company can just buy some software to stay in compliance. A single truck owner is fucked by this.

If you don't care, then I guess you won't mind when prices go up even more to cover the overhead.
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And once again, same question. Until we can vote on it, what do I do about it? What do you do about it?
Didn't know he bought in 2022, didn't watch vid.
 
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krttrkllr said:
Someone who buys a $90,000,00 truck for their business is considered rich?
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Didn't watch the vid, so no idea it was for business.
How much is a smog these days? Tax write off eligible for business?

Trying to figure on a scale what kind of impact this really has on his business.
 
Yota Up said:
Of course I agree it's stupid. 1 smog check per year has worked forever so no need to change that.
Put it on a ballot and I'd vote on it. Other than that, what can I do?

On that note of caring about everything everywhere, everyone in every other state than CA should give a damn about our gun laws here, too, right?

But for this thread, in this case, I'm just talking about that particular attention whore on youtube that should have known what he was getting into before spending a house down payment on a truck and then whining about what comes with it.
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I don’t give a shit about him but I do care about the additional cost of freight coming out of the west cost due to freight trucking semis needing to be couple years old and smogged 4 times a year. Everyone else out here ends up paying for that retarded shit as those cost are passed along.

If you wanna take this thread personal, than perhaps you feel responsible for it happening or some guilt. I didn’t post it because little ole you.
 
Yota Up said:
Didn't watch the vid, so no idea it was for business.
How much is a smog these days? Tax write off eligible for business?

Trying to figure on a scale what kind of impact this really has on his business.
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Maybe you should watch his video and ask him :idea:
 
One thing I noticed is this apears to give a way for mdt trucks older then 2013 to still operate in california... right now they are not allowed... well I think it's 2011 or 12 is the cutoff. Although a pita this may offer some relief for a lot of buisness owners.
 
Yota Up said:
Didn't watch the vid, so no idea it was for business.
How much is a smog these days? Tax write off eligible for business?

Trying to figure on a scale what kind of impact this really has on his business.
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Doesn't matter how much smog is. It's bs with any vehicle from 96 and up. If you don't have an SES/Check engine light, who cares. If the vehicle isn't smoking who cares. I have to smog my vehicles but see a car, at least once a week, driving around that would take care of the mosquitos.

Tax write off. Maybe. Some things are write offs completely. Others aren't or "the cost of doing business" and some things (like vehicles) aren't a write off for the year, but certain amount is allowed to be deducted every year.

But people don't think about the cost outside of the smog. There are costs I can think of half awake before my coffee are:
1. Labor of the person taking the vehicle there.
2. Cost of not using the vehicle for the time that its at the smog place. (Example: so if I'm a small business owner using my only 4500 pickup to trailer equipment to a job that's 250 miles away, I have to either smog it prior or move the job back to comply with the smog. Doing so might take me out of the running for such a job. Either way, twice a year is stupid much less four times a year)
3. Logistics of shuffling vehicles and people to take care of the smog, especially for bigger businesses, who at best may hire two people to do just this or worst, say screw this, shut down and maybe move operations out of state.
4. Cost of operation of said vehicle.

All which gets past down to the customer and for what. So the people in Sac(k)ramentfo can say "we're protecting the planet".

I feel bad for the people there just trying to make a living and having to jump through stupid. Sadly, whatever CARB decides, other idiots in other states seem to want to follow. Don't even get me started on CARB. Look up the people who make these decisions. They are not scientist, they're environmentalists (well, they're mental).

I'm not even from or living in Kalifornia but when is enough enough?
 
Landslide said:
I don’t give a shit about him but I do care about the additional cost of freight coming out of the west cost due to freight trucking semis needing to be couple years old and smogged 4 times a year. Everyone else out here ends up paying for that retarded shit as those cost are passed along.

If you wanna take this thread personal, than perhaps you feel responsible for it happening or some guilt. I didn’t post it because little ole you.
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Dad has a 99 Freightliner Classic. Hauls over the lower 47 states. Has almost 3 million miles on the truck. Keeps it tip top. Even the mechanics at the shop love his truck. It's been rebuilt twice and keeps up on the maintenance. Doesn't smoke (after rebuild) and prior to still less then the trucks that regen going down the highway by a lot.

What's my point? He's had a waiver to run California for years. Two years ago they wanted him to jump through all sorts of hoops and tests at his expense which were astronomical. He doesn't run in California much to begin with and said thanks but no thanks. So drivers will meet him and other like him just across the line in AZ and NV and swap trailers and they go their separate ways just before Kalifornia wants to impose new things.

My question, when the regeneration came on diesels and the DOT of California kept having them break down/got piss poor fuel mileage, why was the state trucks ALLOWED to eliminate their EGR/Particle Fitler/Regens but the rest of us aren't?

The quicker the San Andreas takes the state out, the better. :flipoff2:
 
Yota Up said:
Does this effect you? I have 3 trucks, and don't have to smog any of them ever.

I can't work up a tear for a rich guy that can afford a $90k truck yet complain on youtube about paying for 4 smogs per year.
Typical attention whore stuff, I didn't even click his stupid video. 26 minutes? Good grief. :shaking:
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Were you born this stupid or did you work at it?
 
Yota Up said:
Didn't watch the vid, so no idea it was for business.
How much is a smog these days? Tax write off eligible for business?

Trying to figure on a scale what kind of impact this really has on his business.
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So the .gov stealing more money for bullshit regulations is just a cost of doing business.

You make a great commie/marxist/socialist/fascist sheep.
 
ndtguy said:
Dad has a 99 Freightliner Classic. Hauls over the lower 47 states. Has almost 3 million miles on the truck. Keeps it tip top. Even the mechanics at the shop love his truck. It's been rebuilt twice and keeps up on the maintenance. Doesn't smoke (after rebuild) and prior to still less then the trucks that regen going down the highway by a lot.

What's my point? He's had a waiver to run California for years. Two years ago they wanted him to jump through all sorts of hoops and tests at his expense which were astronomical. He doesn't run in California much to begin with and said thanks but no thanks. So drivers will meet him and other like him just across the line in AZ and NV and swap trailers and they go their separate ways just before Kalifornia wants to impose new things.

My question, when the regeneration came on diesels and the DOT of California kept having them break down/got piss poor fuel mileage, why was the state trucks ALLOWED to eliminate their EGR/Particle Fitler/Regens but the rest of us aren't?

The quicker the San Andreas takes the state out, the better. :flipoff2:
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Same reason the dude who deleted/tuned the POTUS limo got in trouble for doing it for the citizens…. Rules don’t apply to govt
 
ndtguy said:
Dad has a 99 Freightliner Classic. Hauls over the lower 47 states. Has almost 3 million miles on the truck. Keeps it tip top. Even the mechanics at the shop love his truck. It's been rebuilt twice and keeps up on the maintenance. Doesn't smoke (after rebuild) and prior to still less then the trucks that regen going down the highway by a lot.

What's my point? He's had a waiver to run California for years. Two years ago they wanted him to jump through all sorts of hoops and tests at his expense which were astronomical. He doesn't run in California much to begin with and said thanks but no thanks. So drivers will meet him and other like him just across the line in AZ and NV and swap trailers and they go their separate ways just before Kalifornia wants to impose new things.

My question, when the regeneration came on diesels and the DOT of California kept having them break down/got piss poor fuel mileage, why was the state trucks ALLOWED to eliminate their EGR/Particle Fitler/Regens but the rest of us aren't?

The quicker the San Andreas takes the state out, the better. :flipoff2:
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I know a guy that ran a small fleet of expeditor trucks. Your average 24 ft box trucks. Maybe 10 of them.
15 years ago he stopped delivering to CA and setup contracts with CA companies to shuffle the loads into their trucks at the border because he didn't want anything to do with DPF shit since he'd already had a few and they were always broken money pits.

man was a clairvoyant.
Decided to retire a few years ago when the costs of updating his entire fleet got real dumb. Lives on a sail boat now and doesn't give a fuck.
 
Idaho used to have a smog program......

They got rid of that shit 2 years ago as a giant middle finger to the Biden administration.

We can do anything we want, with any vehicle we want.


When I was in California.....I bought a 2001 Dodge 2500 24v diesel.
California wanted $450 a year for registration (but no smog test required)
I immediately went to WA, got a DL and registered it up there......$75 a year at the mom and pop registration service.
And they renewed it by mail for the 10 years I kept it registered there.


Fuck California and all the stupid shit they continue to create.


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California government is just stupid as anything that costs guys like this guy more is just going to be passed down to his customers.

Newscum wants an all electric state, wants California residents dependent on here and not to venture far off the reservation.
 
how long before there's a DMZ around CA? And then a whole new industry of shuffling product from vehicle to vehicle... but managed by a required minority owned companies only... subsidized by the tax payer....
 
2big bronco said:
One thing I noticed is this apears to give a way for mdt trucks older then 2013 to still operate in california... right now they are not allowed... well I think it's 2011 or 12 is the cutoff. Although a pita this may offer some relief for a lot of buisness owners.
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No, it still won't change those rules, all diesel MDTs older than 07 are currently banned, and all prior to 2010 will be banned in 2 more years.

Because of this, I bought a MDT with a 5.9 Cummins for stupid cheap in Menifee a couple yers ago and drove it back to the Midwest.

rockota said:
how long before there's a DMZ around CA? And then a whole new industry of shuffling product from vehicle to vehicle... but managed by a required minority owned companies only... subsidized by the tax payer....
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I have been saying for over 15 years that someone needs to buy a crap ton of land on the AZ side of the line along 40, 10, and 8 to build and operate cross-docks for 49-state trucks to transfer freight to CA trucks.
 
ndtguy said:
I feel bad for the people there just trying to make a living and having to jump through stupid. Sadly, whatever CARB decides, other idiots in other states seem to want to follow. Don't even get me started on CARB. Look up the people who make these decisions. They are not scientist, they're environmentalists (well, they're mental).

I'm not even from or living in Kalifornia but when is enough enough?
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I also feel bad for businesses, but there's plenty more to soak up my tears before I get around to this one.

Restaurants that suddenly have to pay $20 per hour to workers, and likely close down.
Those guys are hit hard and hurting real bad. This dude having to eat an extra what, $1,000 per year?, pales in comparison.
 
PAE said:
California government is just stupid as anything that costs guys like this guy more is just going to be passed down to his customers.
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What does he deliver? How many deliveries per year? How much per delivery?

Then ask yourself just how much more each delivery will cost because of this.
 
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