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Tyson Foods, Inc. is suspending several supervisors of the company's pork plant in Waterloo that are named in a recently amended wrongful death lawsuit, the company announced in a statement Thursday afternoon.

Plant Manager Tom Hart, Safety Lead Bret Tapken, as well as Cody Brustkern and John Casey, who hold "upper-level management positions" at the Tyson Waterloo Plant have all been suspended without pay.

The lawsuit alleges Hart organized a cash buy-in, winner-take-all, betting pool for supervisors and managers to wager how many plant employees would test positive for COVID-19.

Casey is alleged to have explicitly directed supervisors to ignore symptoms of COVID-19 while referring to the virus as the "glorified flu" and told workers not to worry about it because "it's not a big deal" and "everyone is going to get it." The lawsuit also alleges on one occasion, Casey intercepted a sick supervisor who was on his way to be tested and ordered him to get back to work, saying "we all have symptoms - you have a job to do."

In its statement, the company says it has retained the law firm Covington & Burling LLP to conduct an independent investigation into the allegations. Tyson says that investigation will be led by former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder.
 
Great, just another way they will go after every business that tries to stay open against lockdown orders.
 
Slander said:
Well these dipshits did go about it in one of the worst way you possibly could, allegedly.
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True but it takes personal accountability out of the equation. You feel sick, tell the boss you're sick and go home. More of the issue is Tyson is one of those places that takes illegal labor and treats them like slaves.
 
The lawsuit also alleges on one occasion, Casey intercepted a sick supervisor who was on his way to be tested and ordered him to get back to work, saying "we all have symptoms - you have a job to do."
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this is the only thing wrong with what the article has. redirecting a sick supervisor, wuhan flu or malaria, is not good.

wrongful death is a bit of a stretch
 
How much money was in the pool and who won? :grinpimp:
you would think with the pool rules they would encourage testing
 
Juztyn00 said:
More of the issue is Tyson is one of those places that takes illegal labor and treats them like slaves.
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If they are really doing that, maybe you should start a processing plant, run the 'right' way, and put them out of business. You know, improve the world.

But I suspect you don't really know what goes into running an operation like that.
 
clodhopper said:
If they are really doing that, maybe you should start a processing plant, run the 'right' way, and put them out of business. You know, improve the world.

But I suspect you don't really know what goes into running an operation like that.
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Or do my part and not buy cheap Tyson products. America is hooked on the cheapest. Tyson is the cheapest because they skirt the system to find cheaper inputs such as undocumented labor.
 
Juztyn00 said:
Or do my part and not buy cheap Tyson products. America is hooked on the cheapest. Tyson is the cheapest because they skirt the system to find cheaper inputs such as undocumented labor.
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Well you have raised the illegal hires twice now. Evidence? I am pretty sure that a company as large as Tyson is regularly audited for hiring practice. With the current government fines imposed for hiring an undocumented worker, I would be really hard pressed to believe that Tyson maintains an active program to hire illegals.

Now if your idea is that Tyson is at fault when an undocumented worker applies with faulty documentation, then you are applying fault on the wrong party. If the normal HR checks on identification don't detect the applicant is an illegal it is not Tyson's fault, but rather the fault of the illegal immigrant continuing to do illegal things.
 
clodhopper said:
If they are really doing that, maybe you should start a processing plant, run the 'right' way, and put them out of business. You know, improve the world.

But I suspect you don't really know what goes into running an operation like that.
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they really do that.
and not just hiring imigrants, actually smuggling them and forging their documents.

Tyson Foods Inc., the nation's largest meat producer and processor, was indicted yesterday with six employees on charges that it conspired to smuggle illegal immigrants across the Mexican border to work in its processing plants.

The 36-count indictment, which was unsealed at Federal District Court in Chattanooga, Tenn., accuses Tyson of arranging to transport illegal immigrants across the border and of helping them to get counterfeit work papers for jobs at more than a dozen Tyson poultry plants.

The government said it was the largest case brought against a major American company involving the smuggling of immigrants.

The indictment said that six Tyson employees, including two executives, participated in the actions and that the company engaged in the practices to cut costs, meet production goals and to maximize profits. The company could face sanctions and large fines if found guilty; the workers could face prison terms.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/20/us/tyson-foods-indicted-in-plan-to-smuggle-illegal-workers.html

that was in 2001.

and they're still doing it 20 years later.
 
and then there's the whole conspiring to keep the illegals wages down things.

Since 2009, leaders of the firms’ human resources and compensation departments have held annual secret meetings at a Destin, Fla., hotel to discuss pay and benefits for line and maintenance workers at about 200 plants, according to the complaint in federal court in Baltimore. Using consulting agencies as intermediaries, the suit says, they share detailed wage information. It says plant managers also cooperate, for example, by calling each other when one announces an expansion to find out what new positions will pay.
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https://www.latimes.com/business/st...ing more than 90,jobs, according to a lawsuit.
 
clodhopper said:
If they are really doing that, maybe you should start a processing plant, run the 'right' way, and put them out of business. You know, improve the world.

But I suspect you don't really know what goes into running an operation like that.
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I know what goes on, both Tyson and Pilgrims Pride... all the processing centers in this area are "no habla" as fuck and im not talking green card kind of "no habla". Once a decade one of them will get raided, be down a week or 2, and back open as soon as they get more trucked in.

My family grew for Pilgrims... all the catch out crews were new illegals.
 
Doesn't Tyson control the largest share of the Chicken market too?
Kind of hard to just "shop elsewhere" when they are the major player in the game.
 
clodhopper said:
Well you have raised the illegal hires twice now. Evidence? I am pretty sure that a company as large as Tyson is regularly audited for hiring practice. With the current government fines imposed for hiring an undocumented worker, I would be really hard pressed to believe that Tyson maintains an active program to hire illegals.

Now if your idea is that Tyson is at fault when an undocumented worker applies with faulty documentation, then you are applying fault on the wrong party. If the normal HR checks on identification don't detect the applicant is an illegal it is not Tyson's fault, but rather the fault of the illegal immigrant continuing to do illegal things.
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That is some funny shot you posted right there. From what YOU posted, it's obvious you don't know a damn thing about hiring ILLEGALS. Answer this without looking it up... E-verify , which companies use, does it tell the employer if the applicant has LEGAL resident status? Will a company tell an illegal to come back with a good number to use? Will a company hire an illegal using a legit ITIN or your SS number?
 
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IH-SSII said:
That is some funny shot you posted right there. From what YOU posted, it's obvious you don't know a damn thing about hiring ILLEGALS. Answer this without looking it up... E-verify , which companies use, does it tell the employer if the applicant has LEGAL resident status? Will a company tell an illegal to come back with a good number to use? Will a company hire an illegal using a legit ITIN or your SS number?
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I know a programmer who quit after being told to removed the check that an SSN was only used once in the employee DB. This was pre-everify but there are plenty of companies who DGAF and even will "coach" a potential employee into giving information that passes the checks.

At an everify company I had a guy ask me to change his email address. HR had hired him with the wrong name, he was legal but they transposed another candidates last name on his. Passed all the tests and no one noticed till his paychecks and email had the wrong name.
 
IH-SSII said:
That is some funny shot you posted right there. From what YOU posted, it's obvious you don't know a damn thing about hiring ILLEGALS. Answer this without looking it up... E-verify , which companies use, does it tell the employer if the applicant has LEGAL resident status? Will a company tell an illegal to come back with a good number to use? Will a company hire an illegal using a legit ITIN or your SS number?
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Maybe so. But it is still just butt-fucking the wrong end of things that the govt/voters wont make the hard decisions to resolve the immigration problem and instead put the responsibility of determining legal status on private companies who have to rely on crappy govt information to make that determination and then risk legal action if wrong. It should NOT be the responsibility of the private company to police the applicants. I guess the long pursued idea of painting all companies as evil has worked in this case. Yay govt, boo industry.
 
Interesting to read y'alls theories. My son works for Tyson, he is in management. Maybe his plant is different than others but if there are illegals there they don't know it.

The hoops they have to jump through to employee someone are many. SSN's are checked. License, green card, all that crap.

Now there maybe 200 people with the same credentials out there running around the USA, but not two of them are working for tyson at the same time.

They pay great. They are doing a job nobody else wants. I hate illegal immigration and if that is what this is, then I appreciate it. But that is not what this is.
 
Tiha said:
Interesting to read y'alls theories. My son works for Tyson, he is in management. Maybe his plant is different than others but if there are illegals there they don't know it.

The hoops they have to jump through to employee someone are many. SSN's are checked. License, green card, all that crap.

Now there maybe 200 people with the same credentials out there running around the USA, but not two of them are working for tyson at the same time.

They pay great. They are doing a job nobody else wants. I hate illegal immigration and if that is what this is, then I appreciate it. But that is not what this is.
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It's not 'a job nobody else wants', whenever meat processing plants get an ICE raid, people line up for jobs.

But Tyson chicken WAS acquitted of all charges in one illegal hiring case.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tyson-f...llegal-hiring/
 
Wait.. What?!? You guys must have it wrong. 45acp and IH-SSII clearly explained with copious proof that Tyson is actively trucking in and hiring illegals as a regular course of business. Maybe you should check back with your sources.
 
clodhopper said:
Wait.. What?!? You guys must have it wrong. 45acp and IH-SSII clearly explained with copious proof that Tyson is actively trucking in and hiring illegals as a regular course of business. Maybe you should check back with your sources.
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Come to Cousinfinger Arkansas or Quadrajet Texas and see for yourself. Im sorry I don't have an internet link for you to examine to peruse over common knowledge of the Ark-La-Tex area. If you can find him... ask CaryW. He lives around Q-jet and has dealt with smuggled human trafficked chicken workers.
 
it's case farms here.

but from what I understand it's pretty much the same deal everywhere.
 
45acp said:
Come to Cousinfinger Arkansas or Quadrajet Texas and see for yourself. Im sorry I don't have an internet link for you to examine to peruse over common knowledge of the Ark-La-Tex area. If you can find him... ask CaryW. He lives around Q-jet and has dealt with smuggled human trafficked chicken workers.
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Yup. A friend of mine in the Mt Vernon area grows for Pilgrim Pride and tells me the same shit about all the illegals in that industry. But then again, until you have lived in this area its hard to explain to people in northern states how stuff works down here with the illegals. I know my wife and I were blind to this problem living in RI, but once we got to Texas it was "slap you in the face" obvious. Construction sites are no better.....
 
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SLOWPOKE693 said:
Yup. A friend of mine in the Mt Vernon area grows for Pilgrim Pride and tells me the same shit about all the illegals in that industry. But then again, until you have lived in this area its hard to explain to people in northern states how stuff works down here with the illegals. I know my wife and I were blind to this problem living in RI, but once we got to Texas it was "slap you in the face" obvious. Construction sites are no better.....
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It’s bad in Iowa too. I’ve worked with guys that used to work at the packing house in Dubuque before it closed. They said when INS showed up the illegals would go to the hiding places they had picked out. The corporate dairy farms are full of illegals and we usually hear about one getting raided every couple years.

Here’s a link about a processing plant in northern Iowa that was busted in a huge raid. Roughly 300 illegals were deported.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
Yup. A friend of mine in the Mt Vernon area grows for Pilgrim Pride and tells me the same shit about all the illegals in that industry. But then again, until you have lived in this area its hard to explain to people in northern states how stuff works down here with the illegals. I know my wife and I were blind to this problem living in RI, but once we got to Texas it was "slap you in the face" obvious. Construction sites are no better.....
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Hope and Nashville are the same way (Tyson not Pilgrims). Example- Nashville's population is maybe 4000. Its really 6000. I can't prove any of this with a link so...
 
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