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FJ posted page back regarding the water quality and I didn't see any similar comments or reply. Dissolved minerals are out there and they are real.
 
My current tankless came with several pages of schematics of how to set up a recirc loop, integrate a surge tank, intake/exhaust options and recommendations, etc. I'd recommend to dig into any that you're considering and download whatever manuals they offer (install, parts, troubleshooting, etc) and choose your water heater based as much on its support as on its specs. I'm on my second tankless now (first one went 16ish years) and you will eventually need the manuals and the spare parts support. May as well make sure you have them on the way in.
 
Our pantry and kitchen are fed by a gas-fired tankless that needs full flow for 4 seconds before it fires up, and it wouldn't fire up on the low flow of a recirc. pump. Between that + the 10 seconds it takes for hot water to reach the kitchen sink, we basically never used hot water there because we're not running the hot water for 15+ seconds just to make it hot.

So . . . I put a little 2.5 gallon electric water heater in under the kitchen sink. Hot water line coming from the tankless feeds that electric tank, so when the tankless kicks on, the electric heater doesn't have to work much if at all. Hot water at the kitchen sink is now instant, and it's been a game-changer for us.
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Ignore the green arrows, that was to explain routing the discharge from the T&P valve.

Got 2 tanked gas water heaters we love, a gas tankless that's "meh" at best, and now a mini electric tank that works great (but will likely fail in a few years :frown: )
 
So . . . I put a little 2.5 gallon electric water heater in under the kitchen sink. Hot water line coming from the tankless feeds that electric tank, so when the tankless kicks on, the electric heater doesn't have to work much if at all. Hot water at the kitchen sink is now instant, and it's been a game-changer for us.

Link to product? :beer:
 
A lot of the new tankless water heaters actually have small tanks in them.. i know navien was doing it, and another big name started doing it like 10 years back, and it was specifically to make recirc work better. They incorporated small tanks, like 1.5-2.5 gallons directly into the unit, fixed a lot of the issues being talked about in the last few posts.
 
Link to product? :beer:
Credit where it's due, Gots_a_sol made me do it:

Bosch point of use mini water heater. The 2.5.gallon one is usually around $190-$200. Was planning on using this in the shop bathroom when I build it out.


Limited-time deal for Prime Members: BOSCH Electric Mini-Tank Water Heater Tronic 3000 T 2.5-Gallon (ES2.5) - Eliminate Time for Hot Water - Shelf, Wall or Floor Mounted Amazon.com
It was $175 when I got it on a "Prime days" deal, looks like it's $218 now :frown:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0148O658Y

For our application, the 2.5 gallon is perfect. Same system is also available in 4 and 7 gallon. Need to remember to service the anode ~yearly or expect it to eat shit in ~3 years because Chineseum.
 
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Credit where it's due, Gots_a_sol made me do it:


It was $175 when I got it on a "Prime days" deal, looks like it's $218 now :frown:
Amazon.com

For our application, the 2.5 gallon is perfect. Same system is also available in 4 and 7 gallon. Need to remember to service the anode ~yearly or expect it to eat shit in ~3 years because Chineseum.

Just a heads up, it's back down to 170 something for Black Friday
 
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