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chaplinfj60

chaplinfj60

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good after all,

at smorr this past weekend we had Brandon the owner out in our group riding for a little while, i was getting my tow strap out to help a buddy up a ledge and he said he uses this crazy twist strap, 2" Big Daddy Weavable Recovery Tow Strap he has been using them for 20 years. has anyone else used oe?

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Never used one, but looks pretty interesting in that you can adjust the length. BIG price jump from 30 to 50', so while the price per foot is coming down to $6/ft at the 50' mark.....I might be more interested in the 30'.
 
what brandon loved about them is not having to use shackles either soft or steel, less to carry from rig to rig to hook up, just wrap around a bar, or tow point and go. but agree they jump in price quite a bit.
 
I've had the 30 footer in my rig for over 10 years and I really like it. A bonus I found out recently is the width of the strap fits in a receiver hitch so you can loop it around a hitch pin easily and don't have to worry about a loop falling off of a ball. Being able to loop both ends really easily is great as well as picking whatever length you want the strap to be for the situation at hand. Very versatile tool, would recommend if you use a strap frequently.
 
TanTJJim said:
I've had the 30 footer in my rig for over 10 years and I really like it. A bonus I found out recently is the width of the strap fits in a receiver hitch so you can loop it around a hitch pin easily and don't have to worry about a loop falling off of a ball. Being able to loop both ends really easily is great as well as picking whatever length you want the strap to be for the situation at hand. Very versatile tool, would recommend if you use a strap frequently.
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and this weekend i was pulling strap to tub my buddy often. so its get out strap, soft shackle, undo metal shale on his truck wrap everything up, repeat. dam it felt like a 10 minute ordeal every time. by no means am i bitching about tugging , just about dragging all the shit out and returning it.
 
chaplinfj60 said:
and this weekend i was pulling strap to tub my buddy often. so its get out strap, soft shackle, undo metal shale on his truck wrap everything up, repeat. dam it felt like a 10 minute ordeal every time. by no means am i bitching about tugging , just about dragging all the shit out and returning it.
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Those days are always a grind, the speed strap definitely makes those days a whole lot better
 
TanTJJim said:
I've had the 30 footer in my rig for over 10 years and I really like it. A bonus I found out recently is the width of the strap fits in a receiver hitch so you can loop it around a hitch pin easily and don't have to worry about a loop falling off of a ball. Being able to loop both ends really easily is great as well as picking whatever length you want the strap to be for the situation at hand. Very versatile tool, would recommend if you use a strap frequently.
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A ball is not a recovery point. Don’t risk people’s lives with that.
 
fl0w3n said:
A ball is not a recovery point. Don’t risk people’s lives with that.
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Yah, we agree. I may not have phrased it in the best way but this strap allows you an easy way to secure it to a hitch without wrapping it around a ball, which as we all know instantly kills nuns and causes global warming :flipoff2:

Pto said:
No the empty reciever - stick strap in, put in pin = Done.
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This is exactly how I use it if I'm connecting to a hitch.
 
fl0w3n said:
A ball is not a recovery point. Don’t risk people’s lives with that.
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A 2-5/16 ball on a forged shank on a professionally built receiver is more trustworthy than the average shackle mount welded to a plate bumper IMO.

A "retard drop" sized welded ball mount is a basically guaranteed missile though.


Pto said:
No the empty reciever - stick strap in, put in pin = Done.
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Then you have a bent pin stuck in your receiver.

Use a real attachment point.
 
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arse_sidewards said:
A 2-5/16 ball on a forged shank on a professional built receiver is more trustworthy than the average shackle mount welded to a plate bumper IMO.

A "retard drop" sized welded ball mount is a basically guaranteed missile though.



Then you have a bent pin stuck in your receiver.

Use a real attachment point.
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I mean, I guess that’s like saying one type of revolver is better for Russian roulette than another… if you really want to make that argument go ahead.
 
fl0w3n said:
I mean, I guess that’s like saying one type of revolver is better for Russian roulette than another… if you really want to make that argument go ahead.
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Just because you can't be trusted not to hook a strap to a ball on a step bumper or on a 12" drop hitch doesn't mean we all can't. Is it ideal, no. But as long as you don't do it when other details of the situation make it particularly risky (drop mount, low rated ball, difficult recovery requiring lots of force, etc) then it's probably fine.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Just because you can't be trusted not to hook a strap to a ball on a step bumper or on a 12" drop hitch doesn't mean we all can't. Is it ideal, no. But as long as you don't do it when other details of the situation make it particularly risky (drop mount, low rated ball, difficult recovery requiring lots of force, etc) then it's probably fine.
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:shocked:
 
arse_sidewards said:
A 2-5/16 ball on a forged shank on a professionally built receiver is more trustworthy than the average shackle mount welded to a plate bumper IMO.
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No it isn't. I've watched a ball almost turn a bed full of people into Darwin Award recipients
 
posford said:
No it isn't. I've watched a ball almost turn a bed full of people into Darwin Award recipients
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And I've never done something that dumb with a hitch ball.

If shit is getting that rowdy then use something else.

For a "hey I was a dumbass in this small mud hole and need a quick pull" or "need a little tug to get un-bottomed out and put a tire on the ground" type shit almost anything works.
 
arse_sidewards said:
For a "hey I was a dumbass in this small mud hole and need a quick pull" or "need a little tug to get un-bottomed out and put a tire on the ground" type shit almost anything works.
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Until it doesn't. Until alcohol overrides sense. Some stupid fuck will read your idiotic posting and take it as gospel, and someone will wind up dead.

I tried telling them it was a bad idea and they shouldn't be in the bed. I got told to fuck off. Couldn't have paid me enough to hook cable to them after that.
 
welndmn said:
Yes, I have been using them for years, they were once called Beard (The seat people) Super Straps.

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Very handy.
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Hmmm....no idea Beard used to make them. I have a set of awesome "Street Comp" Beard suspension seats in my red buggy....love them. Wish they were still made. Great narrow buggy option....21" wide but lower bolsters for bigger guys and a few more degrees upright.
 
white-rhino said:
Seems more cumbersome than a strap with a loop over a hook or a soft shackle on a D ring - especially if there is mud involved. Just my .02
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well yes and no thats why i am asking... i felt like it took quite a bit of time to do a shackle and soft shackle and strap. vice just wrap and weave it..
 
chaplinfj60 said:
well yes and no thats why i am asking... i felt like it took quite a bit of time to do a shackle and soft shackle and strap. vice just wrap and weave it..
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And I have zero experience with it so I'm just surmising. With a hook you have no fumbling. Just toss the loop over the hook. I try to never open/unscrew a D-ring so I use a soft shackle. With a soft shackle, you have to fumble with feeding the soft shackle through the D-ring and the loop over the knob. With the weave - it seems like every time you have to make sure you pull enough slack through D-ring, then the first loop and then feed it through successive loops. I don't know how many weaves you need but I'm guessing 3-4 to be effective???

Look, I was skeptical when soft shackles first came out and now I am a believer. Maybe this would be the same way???

Edit: just looked at the link. They recommend 4-6 weaves.
 
same here on soft shackle thats all i use now. i dont have hooks bolted on anywhere. that might be a good idea in its self. time saver for sure.
 
I'm a big fan of hooks. Yes, they have a down side, a loop can fall off whereas when secured via D-ring or soft shackle, they are secure.
HOWEVER, I've had times where getting a strap on someone quickly has been important. And it's simple.

I'm a mixed bag. My buggy has D-rings front and rear. My JK has D-rings in the front and both a OEM hook and a hook in the trailer hitch. My stretched/linked YJ had hooks front and rear.

I'm always looking for new products for our driving school so I think the school might invest in one of these to give it a try. :cool2:
 
Brandon down at smorr has not used anything but these in 20 years i thought he said. even roll overs and anything. wrap and weave... wrap and weave. done... you could even go through a d ring mounted and not have to unscrew it. screw it in. please give it go....
 
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