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Not in this case. He's pretty ignorant. He's clueless.
You have an excellent argument that's well worth the effort of posting. It is a great summary of the facts in question, easily highlights the fallacies you have found and has persuaded me to change my opinion.

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You have an excellent argument that's well worth the effort of posting. It is a great summary of the facts in question, easily highlights the fallacies you have found and has persuaded me to change my opinion.

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You new to this thread? Have you even read or watched ALL the other vids?

Don't think you've put in the work to actually understand more than what your bias wants fed.

Doesn't matter to me, either way.

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continuing my artillery news.

apparently m777 pieces are starting to break and they obviously can't be repaired in ukraine, so that's not so good for your war efforts.
I've also seen photos and videos of ye old M101 systems being used. Gifted by lithuania.

did we tell them they weren't gonna get all the 155 so they rolled out a bunch of 105s to waste ammo with?
 
You have an excellent argument that's well worth the effort of posting. It is a great summary of the facts in question, easily highlights the fallacies you have found and has persuaded me to change my opinion.

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" My head is lopsided, bitch ! Suckadick " :lmao:

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Not in this case. He's pretty ignorant. He's clueless.
Perun lost the argument with Russia plans on bringing Europe to its knees over energy. Russia wanted to sell the oil to Europe but the west stopped that and blew up the pipelines. I stop following the bias after that.
 
Perun lost the argument with Russia plans on bringing Europe to its knees over energy. Russia wanted to sell the oil to Europe but the west stopped that and blew up the pipelines. I stop following the bias after that.
Got proof "the west" blew up the pipeline ?
 
Got proof "the west" blew up the pipeline ?
Who blew it up?

Assuming the MSM and the west has a narrative, and all the sources that contradict any accusation of the west doing it, what are all the other sources claiming?
 
Who blew it up?

Assuming the MSM and the west has a narrative, and all the sources that contradict any accusation of the west doing it, what are all the other sources claiming?
Claims are a "dime a dozen" and totally worthless. Unless I see some proof the cause/perps are unknown.
RedRider made a flat out statement, so it's up to him to provide proof.
 
Claims are a "dime a dozen" and totally worthless. Unless I see some proof the cause/perps are unknown.
RedRider made a flat out statement, so it's up to him to provide proof.
I'm asking you. What are your people saying? What are your sources saying was the cause of the explosion?
Who do you think did it?
 
I'm asking you. What are your people saying? What are your sources saying was the cause of the explosion?
Who do you think did it?
I already told you, in fact you quoted it................................ unknown. There's no proof shown that I've seen as to who did it.
RedRider claimed "the west" blew up the pipeline, so I asked for his proof.
 
I already told you, in fact you quoted it................................ unknown. There's no proof shown that I've seen as to who did it.
RedRider claimed "the west" blew up the pipeline, so I asked for his proof.
Yes the west destroyed the pipe line. Period
 
I already told you, in fact you quoted it................................ unknown. There's no proof shown that I've seen as to who did it.
If there is proof, then your mind is not needed to think and your opinion irrelevant.
Only when things are unknown does your brain play a role in trying to guess.
You have a brain. What does it think about this? What do you think if you had to guess?
 
If there is proof, then your mind is not needed to think and your opinion irrelevant.
Only when things are unknown does your brain play a role in trying to guess.
You have a brain. What does it think about this? What do you think if you had to guess?
Okay, that's different than asking what someone else is speculating.
My best guess is that Russia blew it up themselves so they can blame "the west" for propaganda reasons.
That's strictly my guess, which is far different that stating it as a fact.
 
Is it working? I don't know about the results of it and whether or not any blame to the west at this moment is benefiting Russia. It could be, I have no clue. If sympathy for Russia was the goal I would expect other countries to do something that benefits Russia, or to pull back their support for us or UKR.

It seems like everyone is standing with their initial positions, though. Those pro-UKR ahve heels dug in and nothing that comes up changes their mind. Those that think it's not our problem also don't seem to be changing their minds. Personally, I am in the "not our problem" camp.
 
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