Residential solar people?

[Sceep]

I wish ABQ NM would allow me to pull a permit but they are really being assholes.

So far I've received two quotes for the following systems

10KW Ground based system
Microinverters from Enphase
No batteries
Power on during grid failure
Ability to hook generator up to system
Purchase in cash

Before the 30% back from federal and 10% from state
Positive solar - 54k , 33k after rebates
Ion Solar - 52K, 31k after rebates

I still have two more companies to reach out to in ABQ for quotes. Ones a local company with the second being in CA and NM. But quotes seem high but maybe labor and shit has really gone thru the roof for this stuff.

Just make sure you are using UNIRAC racking(pretty sure Positive is still one of their distributors) ! I likely designed and have patents on that shit but don't come whining to me because I don't work there anymore.

 

[bigun]

 

[mobil1syn]

Duc whats your roi?

 

[Duc]

Lots of profit in those quotes id say.

Thats why Im trying to get 4-5 quotes for the same type of system. I did have ION solar pull out because they do not want to install a system that will disconnect my house from the grid but still allow the panels to run plus I think the ground mount scared them off. Its not a knock out in a day type of install.

I know you are missing a lot still from this package but it for a ground deploy id think even if you paid a contractor to do the sub panel wire runs etc.

Grid-Tie Solar Power Kit With 11,200 Watts of Panels and Enphase IQ8A Microinverters

Grid-Tie Solar Power Kit With 11,200 Watts of REC390AA-PURE Solar Panels and Twenty Eight Enphase IQ8A Microinverters

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If I only need a license electrician this would be easy but you need someone with a solar endorsement to pull a permit here in ABQ. Otherwise I had a guy lined up for installing the AC and the electrical system for solar.

Just make sure you are using UNIRAC racking(pretty sure Positive is still one of their distributors) ! I likely designed and have patents on that shit but don't come whining to me because I don't work there anymore.

Im still trying to get the companies to full list off what they want to install. Do you get a kick back from the patents?

Duc whats your roi?

I need to run a full calculator and make a excel sheet for the full savings.

This was on the old house with 4ton ac and a 24k BTU mini split in the small 3 car garage. New house Im planning on use a mini split for my 1500sq ft shop and I have a 12k mini split in a storage room plus 2 - 2 ton ac's for the house.

Nothing like the additional fees tacked on.

 

[WTF?]

Before the 30% back from federal and 10% from state
Positive solar - 54k , 33k after rebates
Ion Solar - 52K, 31k after rebates

I still have two more companies to reach out to in ABQ for quotes. Ones a local company with the second being in CA and NM. But quotes seem high but maybe labor and shit has really gone thru the roof for this stuff.

first order of business- what are the terms your utilitiy provider offers for a net metering agreement? (this will make or break the viability of the solar investment) the more prevalent solar becomes, the utilities seem to make the agreements worse/ less favorable to the homeowner.



$5/watt cash before incentives sounds high AF to me, but my cash pricing was ~$3.30/ watt at full retail rate and i chiseled them to below $3/watt by pitting a couple eager competitors against eachother for a roof mount system before bidenflation.

this calc says a random address in south abg with 10 kw tilted at optimal 29* per this calc wuill genetate ~ 18,000 kw/h / yr

so that bill is august so the highest bill of the year?
your aug bill calculated to 19.7 c/kwh with fees which is high because you used so many kw/h over the cheap 2 lower tiers3
( if you only used 1500kw/h it'd be 18.64 c/kw/h and if you use 900 its 17.2 c/kwh) { fun fact that 3% fee applies to the 3.4% fee too- fees on fees!}
.
so if we use that generous assumption, if you got a 1:1 net metering agreement with 1:1 kwh for over generation which is a big if you'd offset $3500/ yr or around 10 yr payback if you assume the cash is worth 0% opportunity cost/forefeited interest ($32k today is $50k in 10 yrs assuming 5% annual return). .

the panels lose about 0.5%% efficiency/yr and the sales guys assume 3.9% annual increase in kwh cost, you can build the spreadsheet yourself

 

[ThePanzerFuhrer]

larboc any data points for your solar generation this winter. Had to be 2x as good as last year as there was no snow.

 

[larboc]

larboc any data points for your solar generation this winter. Had to be 2x as good as last year as there was no snow.

I have gotten lazy with recording and reporting, I'll do a proper update tomorrow.
Yes, this winter generation was way above normal. Not much snow.
Still excess power, but I did get a hydroponic+grow light setup going for veggies and I used electric heaters in the garage a lot this winter instead of propane.

 

[larboc]

Thats why Im trying to get 4-5 quotes for the same type of system. I did have ION solar pull out because they do not want to install a system that will disconnect my house from the grid but still allow the panels to run plus I think the ground mount scared them off. Its not a knock out in a day type of install.



If I only need a license electrician this would be easy but you need someone with a solar endorsement to pull a permit here in ABQ. Otherwise I had a guy lined up for installing the AC and the electrical system for solar.



Im still trying to get the companies to full list off what they want to install. Do you get a kick back from the patents?


I need to run a full calculator and make a excel sheet for the full savings.

This was on the old house with 4ton ac and a 24k BTU mini split in the small 3 car garage. New house Im planning on use a mini split for my 1500sq ft shop and I have a 12k mini split in a storage room plus 2 - 2 ton ac's for the house.

Nothing like the additional fees tacked on.

Woah, turn some stuff off once in awhile!

 

[Duc]

Woah, turn some stuff off once in awhile!

We do but 100 degree heat and running machines in the garage will run bills up. Normally we turn the ac up when we aren't home but at a certain point the units barely keep up during the hot times. Most of the time the bill was 250 to 300 at the old house.

 

[Sceep]

Do you get a kick back from the patents?

No. :(

 

[larboc]

Recap for the winter: I started in October with 4571kWh of banked credits and I consumed almost exactly what I generated in September so Oct. 1st is what I call the start of the net negative winter portion. I ended up with 2680kWh in credits a the end of March and have been adding to credits since then. I had 2761kwh banked as of 4/4/24 so I'm still making more than I'm using.
I need to read my inverter more recently, but on 2/7/24 it hit 15,000kWh of generation which is about $3000 in power at the old rate.

Also, starting in feb. my utility upped rates appx. 10%. I now pay a $30/month service charge instead of $25. The energy charge, if I had any, would now be 21.1 cents/kWh which helps my payback time.
Payback wise, I'm about 1/3 paid back on my investment at this point which is right where I expected to be.

 

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Also, starting in feb. my utility upped rates appx. 10%. I now pay a $30/month service charge instead of $25. The energy charge, if I had any, would now be 21.1 cents/kWh which helps my payback time.

my utility went the other way
doubled the 'basic cost of service' and left the electric cost alone
real "get fucked, small producers" move

 

[brantb]

Any opinions on mini rails vs say a 14 foot rail with 3 feet supporting it? Is there some advantage to having a long continuous rail? This will be for 8 panels in landscape, 2 wide and 4 deep.